17, 18 jun 09: big things, little things - Page 3

Originally posted by: huzie12

Prem😍So proud of him😍

Originally posted by: ash08

🤗The show has become a drag of late. I am dreading to watch the show.

*sigh* tell me 'bout it! after all these years, after all these shows, you'd have thought they'd have figure out how to pace out the bad-guy and the good-guy part more evenly, no? *sigh*

But I still believe that prem-heer-are-one and the creatives know that and will somehow keep that intact with the leap and w2 coming back to j-zoo. 😊

i dunno 'bout the leap, but the premise, the heart, the core of the story? prem-heer-are-one has to be -- else we'd be watching something else -- not kdmhmd! 😆

One thing that this show has done to me - I never know what to expect next. They might show many tracks which are insensible, they might have tampered with the dialogues and the script - but they still manage to make us go "Awww" one fine day. I am still waiting for that day to arrive and I still hope it will happen soon. 😃

😃 🤗 me too... oh, me too!

have phun yourself. see you.

Originally posted by: KDHMDfan

if its missing its like a reaffirmation that even E has given up.

😆 more lika a reaffirmation of the fact that i am surrounded by people who think that no-school means i have all the time in the world for other things -- and i can do everything they want! at the same time! argh! i'm actually thinking of running away from home soon... 😆

I am still going to w&w however idotic things are at the moment because like you said so far throughout everything even BT have maintained prem-heer as one. And prem-heer-are-one IS the show isn't it? without it there is no story!

that's exactly what i think! i've come to think that the story/concept seems to be about prem-heer-are-one but the scriptwriters think nothing of skipping off to an alternative universe where they can work with a present and a future ... a totally hithertoo unseen set of past events! and the fact that it all jars and looks impossible to the story-watchers is okay, 'cause it never disturbs the concept of prem-heer-are-one!

i'm seriously wondering whether smits (smitha, sshekar, who writes a ffic called destiny) can't script-write for this show.... man! they seem to badly need help in this department!

I have never seen any other TV soap, BT or otherwise, so I am not that clued into their track record on these things which is what seems to be making everyone so nervous.

well, i've seen a couple... and so far, there's been nothing i've seen so far like this show. but my expertise is very tiny... and my opinion is - if you'd done s'thing before, why bother telling the very same story again? but then, i'm just a watcher. don't get to write 'em. or decided on what they get to do next. 😃

the only spooky thing is how they turned gmom into gementor. It makes me just a little bit worried that if they could that they could do just about anything, could they???

i've been wondering if i could do the same gayatri-mom turns into gementor in a reasonable way -- using the same story we've been watching so far. and my conclusion is? i'd have had much more gayatri-mom-vitchface-veera manipulation than we got to see! not saying we didn't get to see a lot of screen time between the two -- but those had ... a lot of repeated/empty scenes. there had to have been more of them -- especially tying in gementor getting to hate nihaal! is funny how we really don't understand gementor's instantaneous dislike for nihaal based on a few phone calls/conversations! one of the reasons i thought that she is faking some/all of this attitude is 'cause i thought she has discovered she is dying. and has to pull off something dramatic soon. but as i said: they haven't ever shown us anything to support that.

another thing that i thought is that she's gone mad (that was in my last wtf posted -- a weekend thoughts feature if you haven't seen it before.. 😆). she has been through huge amounts of mental stress, and she has gone plain cuckoo. and heer is her main target 'cause of that infamous ''what are you guys talking 'bout? i'm not pregnant!'' declaration of heer's to the general public at a jzoo party. the kind of emotional swings gayatri-mom went through there could have ... destablised her? and then the rest of the events just kept pushing her over some dark edge?

but honestly? i can't figure out how to rationalise this shift of character either! the second one that i've really been uncomfortable with...

By the way I think you should seriously talk to Prem when you button up his white shirt and tell him to get rid of that undershirt thingy!!!! Heer is so worried about lying to him that she is forgetting all such important things! someone needs to tell her when she picks out his clothes.

😆 well, i hate to dash your hopes. but i'm not one for keeping false appearances. my job is just that -- buttoning up prem's white shirt, rolling up his sleeves (if the script requires! 🤣) and making sure it fits snugly over those shoulders and torso and ... *give me a moment, while i take a swig of my gatorade wouldja? 😆*

prem's usually on the phone, when he comes in wearing the shirt. and recently as we all know it's been over that darned undershirt thingie! no conversations -- vocal, ie. if something displeases him, all he does is do one of those subtle eye things -- oh, ya, they're called "looks'' right? 🤣 and i hurry to obey.

in my favour, i can tell you that i've ... er ... sabotagued those thingies. scissors have been accidentally in my hands as i've taken them out of the drawer to leave on the chair for prem to wear. once i ended up burning the bottom half of one 'cause a lit candle was too close to the chair -- can't imagine how that happened!

but s'how? no matter what happens, he comes out wearing one of these things! i think he's got several stashed away in his backpack. something that no-one is allowed to touch. *sigh* but never fear... i'm still working on it.

Aww.....he was soo cute when he said jaldi se? ..jaldi hai?...how I hate him too!!!

😍 tell me 'bout it! in the end, everyone -- everyone! -- finds out they hate prem! 😆

Hey Miss Sunshine,

I don't know what to say about this whole show and the so called "surprising" twists and turns it is taking. It is heartbreaking to see a lovely show and Prem and Heer being reduced to mere mortals. There are very few things that I found interesting in the last two episodes. Here goes:

17 June:

Heer thing: it was very interesting to see Heer rushing home and hoping that Prem isn't there already. And then her confusion as to whether he was in the room and instant relief at knowing that he had just walked in. Heer knows she's doing something very wrong and just can't meet Prem's eyes. Not only that she can't even bear to be near him because of all the things she has done. The guilt is killing her and you can see it. I wonder how she regained her composure that night. What was interesting was even though she was all stressed and wanted to know about Sameer she didn't talk to Rajveer about it because she was with Prem. Wish she had given Prem the same time earlier and just told him everything. And now I guess it is too late to tell him anything. Doesn't Heer remind you of Abhimanyu (Mahabharat's Arjun's son who gets killed in the maze because he only hears the way to get into it and doesn't know how to get out)? Like Abhimanyu Heer has got into the maze created by Gaya3 but now she can't get out. Heer reminds me of the poor insect caught in a spider web and the more it struggles to get out the more entangled it gets.

Prem thing: Isn't he the sweetest thing ever? How much endearing can he get? I just wanted to hug him when he said it looked so bad that a wife wasn't picking up her husband's call. And the very next instant he's all concerned about Heer's health. I love the way he treats her like his kid at times. How he gives her the space to come to him and tell her his problems and how he is sure that she'll share her problems with him sooner or later. I like the transformation of Prem the lover to Prem the husband. But I miss the mad passion and possivness that Prem the lover had for his Heer. Prem the lover couldn't see anybody but Heer even when she wasn't around him. Prem the husband is sweet and loving but lacks the passion that Prem the lover had. That is why I still wonder when push comes to shove will Prem stand by Heer? No matter what wrong she had done. Will he for the second time in his life support someone knowing very well that they have wronged him? He supported Gaya3 when she took the decision of kicking Heer out knowing very well she was doing a wrong thing. So will he knowing that Heer lied to him still support her? Or will he become the righteous Prem? Why do I get the feeling that it is going to be the latter?

Gaya3 thing: she really has to work hard to get Prem to doubt Heer, right? I mean she's been trying for weeks now and nothing concrete seems to be happening. She's the cruelest character I have ever seen in any show. She's so cold hearted that she even ignores the fact that every time she creates a situation against Heer she's actually killing Prem. Everytime Prem hears something about Heer and Rajveer a part of him dies. I wonder is this all being done so that finally when he needs to decide and act he'll be so dead that nothing will matter to him anymore. he'll just be a puppet in Gaya3's hands. I still feel that compared to Gaya3 DJ and RR were far better. Because they were never Prem or Heer's own. They were never worshipped by Prem or Heer. I feel sorry for Prem not because he's going to be separated from Heer soon but the shock he'll get when he comes to know that it was his mother who was the reason for everything. I hope he'll come to know of it some day. And it would be heartbreaking to watch that. This again brings back the same question How will gaya3 react to Prem knowing the truth about her? Will she ever be able to look in Prem's eye again? Will she ever be able to be the same mother that Prem worshipped? And imagine she's doing all this for Veera!!

Veera -Nihaal thing: I don't understand is what is with Veera? Is she developing feelings for Nihaal? Or is it because she doesn't have Maya or her friends around to amuse her that she now needs Nihaal? What is it? Just because Nihaal gave her a big house and doesn't interfere in her life makes him endearing? I don't get the turnaround in Veera. Nihaal is on a mission and looks like his plan is working. Looks like not only has he got money but also some brains. His arguments actually make sense. You know funnily enough right now he's the only character that speaks rationally.

Maya-Harman thing: The whole sucide thing was very lame and what was with the OTT Om Shanti Om impersonation? Am glad that Maya hasn't lost her touch. And she's going to help Gaya3 get rid of Heer soon. One thing I don't understand didn't Maya want the entire family to split? Does she still want it? Harman is so not bothered about Maya. I loved it when he said I will throw you out myself. Must say both Harman and Nihaal seemed to have developed brains suddenly.

18 June:

Prem thing: What is with Prem and evasdropping? He was never like this before. How come he stays on to hear everything the bad guys are saying but goes away when the good guys speak? Totally loved the way he assured himself that Heer meeting Rajveer is not a big deal. The other sweet thing was he couldn't believe that Heer could be at the hotel and is instant reaction was to come to her defence. The way he instantly knew that Heer was scared and all she need was a hug and a kiss from him. Awww that was so sweet. Can he be more sweeter? But i still miss the mad passionate Prem. Who could see nothing but Heer. I so miss him. But what I loved the most was after all that Prem heard about Heer the only thing that mattered to him was nobody esp his mother should think wrong of Heer. Because according to him Heer can never be wrong. Isn't it interesting that the three people he thought would never do any wrong are the ones who have actually done some terrible things to him. His father was his god but he threw him out and that totally shattered him. He'll be completely broken when he comes to know what Heer did because I can bet a million dollars that he'll not know the entire truth, not yet atleast. But the one thing that'll kill him will be when comes to know what his mother did. Wonder how he'll react to his mom after that? I so want to see that.

Heer thing: She can't lie, can she?I wonder what she would have done if Rajveer hadn't showed up at that time. She's reached a breaking point but my question is isn't it too late? What I don't understand is why does Heer value Rajveer's ideas so much. Has she lost her thinking capabilities completely? She knows what she's doing is wrong then why does she wait for a go ahead from Rajveer to tell Prem the whole truth?

Gaya3 thing: I love the way she uses different people to get Prem's attention. She can be a good strategist. She knows how to play Prem very well. But am sure that she'll succeed soon. What is surprising is that she's so sure of herself that she's not even thinking of a scenario where her plans may be exposed. She's not even thinking as to what will happen when Prem comes to know of her intention? What will she do when Prem leaves her for what she's done to him and Heer? But the most imp qus is will she ever face that situation where Prem will know her truth?

Veera-Nihaal thing: So is veera now in love with Nihaal? And what is with that I'll do everything to make you happy thing?

HC thing: I know what is with this guy and taking mouthful of food or water? I have always noticed this. but i love the way HC brings these small small things in Prem's mannerisms esp when he's around Heer. The way his face goes from all smiley to concern, the way he teases her knowingly when she asks him hurry up and get ready for bed, the way he looks completely scared when he thinks that he might loose Heer after hearing to Gaya3's friend's tale. I agree HC does Prem brilliantly. He actually brings the character to life in his own way. He really lives that character.

AG thing: boy has this girl grown on me or what? You know I am big HC fan and when he's onscreen I can't see anybody else and I also think that nobody is as good as him in the entire cast. But AG is slowly getting to me. I remember HC once saying that AG copies him all the time. If this is true then I must say she's doing a very good job of it. Just like HC AG brings these small small things which makes Heer so believable. The way she has that fake smile or how she can't meet Prem's eyes or how she instantly tears up when Prem reassures her about his support. AG does Heer as good as HC does Prem.

HC-AG thing: are they comfortable with each other? do we even need to ask that? But yes, even I want to know how much do they improvise before the actual take? Does the director tell them every small thing or do they do it themselves? I have always felt that AG was more comfortable in the intimate scenes than HC but now suddenly I feel HC is more open and out there than AG is. He's just opened up.

With regards some questions you had about how long this whole thing of Gaya3 trying to poison Prem agains Heer has been going on well it's been more than month now. It all started in full force with the sameer story which happened sometime the third week of May.

BTW the shirt that Prem wore yest was not a new one. It is the same one that he wore when Gaurav's mother came to the Juneja house to take him away.

Highlight: For me will be when this track ends. I know the end result will be heartbreaking and sad. The creatives will break my Prem and Heer and kill me but I want it to end because I am tired of this cat and mouse game. I know this time the evil guys will win but am sure one day very soon good will come back and win fair and square. The only thing is am I willing to wait that long and am I willing to take all the crap that the creatives are going to dish out till the day good will prevail? Only time will tell.