7April-written-daring Luv and Kush

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Jai Siya Ram
The old woman, whom Luv and Kush call as Nani has to keep running around to take care of Luv and Kush.
Nani - They are so troublesome. In whole life I did not run around as much as I have to run to make them bathe. This small Luv is so mischivious.
Sita smiles - Mother, now why are you saying this to me? Your love has spoiled him.
Nani - Children look good when they do mischief? If not children, then will you and I do mischief?

Sita combs Kush's hair.
Kush - Ma, it hurts.
Sita - Son, combing is important. Otherwise, we will look like wild animals.

Luv does not want his hair to be combed. He tries to escape. Sita pulls him.
Luv - I don't want my hair combed.
Nani - Are you not Nani's child?
Luv - No, leave me.
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Nani - I will give you sweets.
Luv - You give them daily. Then why should I get my hair combed?
Nani - If you get your hair combed, then I will send you to forest with ashram's children.

Sita is shocked.
Sita - Mother, what are you saying? How can we send such a small child to forest?
Luv - I will go to forest.
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Sita - No, you cannot. You are too small.
Luv - I will. Just now, Nani said I can.
Sita - Now I am saying you cannot.
Luv - Nani is elder to you. Nani says I can.
Nani - When he is so willing, then let him go.
Sita - No mother, not now. Let him grow some more. Then he may go.

Valmiki comes there. He calls out Kush and Luv. Sita goes out to meet him.
Nani (to Luv) - Maharshi Valmiki is here. If he gives permission, then you may go to the forest.

Sita - Pranam gurudev. Luv and Kush are inside. Please come.
Valmiki - Daughter, Ram's name made me free from all attachments. The same Sri Ram's sons have again caught me in the grips of attachment.

Sita smiles.
Valmiki - Until I shower my affections on Luv and Kush, I do not feel like any rituals.
Valmiki goes inside.
Valmiki (to Nani) - Maayi, you are here? Since the day Luv and Kush were born, you are rarely seen. Now you are doing the works, which you avoided whole life.
Nani - Maharshi, my daughter's children are so lovely that I do not feel like leaving them even for a moment.

Valmiki agrees with her. Kush touches Valmiki's feet and takes his blessings.
Nani - Luv, touch maharshi's feet.
Sita - Luv, you know that you should touch the feet of elders and take their blessings.
Luv - No, I want to go to forest.
Nani - For that, it is a must to take his permission. Even your mother takes his permission. Now touch his feet.
I have stolen this update from india forums web site without permission.
Luv touches Valmiki's feet. Valmiki blesses him.
Luv - Baba, shall I go to the forest?
Valmiki - Certaintly. But come back fast. And do not do any mischief.

I did not like how Luv was shown. Showing him as chanchal is fine. But showing him as stubborn and not having manners is not good. Another thing I did not like is how Nani and Sita are behaving over Luv going to the forest. It is ok to show that Nani wants him to go to the forest. It is good to show Sita's concern. But their dialogs are as if they have made up their mind to trump each other's decision.

Nani is telling other children to take care of Luv and Kush.
Nani - They are the youngest among you. You all must take care of them.
One boy - Do not worry, Maayi. They are most dear to us. Even if you did not tell, we will take care of them.
Sita - Luv and Kush, you two also be careful. Do not move away from your friends. Do not try to go anywhere alone. In forest, there are so many wild animals. Anything can happen.

Showing Sita's concern was good. I liked it.😊
Luv - Do not worry, Ma. I will take care of Kush and all others.
So cute.😆

In Ayodhya
Sumant - Maharaj, this letter is from the head of a locality. You had exempted farmers from all taxes for five years. But some farmers approached him. They are saying that this time crops' production is very good. So they want to pay tax. He is asking what is the order for him.
Ram - Write to him that if this is what people want, then instead of paying tax, let them collect the amount and spend it for the development of that locality.

Sumant is happy to hear this.
Sumant - Maharaj, as you wish.

Ram's nephews come there with their mothers and Kaushalya. Ram hugs them. Then feels sad remembering Sita.I have stolen this update from india forums web site without permission.
Anujon ke shishon ko kanthh lagakar sabke sheesh pe haath firaakar
Jyonhi uthe tyon hi Sita is sudhi ne ghera Ram ko aakar
Kamal nayan maanas pe ghire baadal girate hain
Ram Siya avibhaajya prithak rah samay bitaate hain
Vidhna tere lekh kisi ki samajh na aate hain


In the forest, the children are playing.
Kush - Let us go back to the ashram.
Luv - I will not. I will play more.
Kush - Luv, I am not in the mood to play any more. I will sit there.

Kush goes and sits under a tree.

Luv throws the ball. The children go to collect the ball but they stop because there is a huge snake. They all run away.
The ball belongs to a child named Suraj.

Suraj - Where is my ball?
Luv - The ball is near the snake.
Suraj - Then bring it back.
Luv - From there?
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Suraj - You threw it. You bring it.
Other boys - Are you mad, Suraj? How can he go there? What if the snake bites him?
Suraj - I do not know all that. I want my ball back.
Luv - You wait here. I will bring your ball.


Luv goes near the snake. He looks into the snake's eyes for some time. Then he lifts the snake and puts it inside his bag.

Children go back to the ashram. Luv goes to Sita. Sita lifts him in her lap.

Luv thinks - There is a snake in my bag. What if it bites Ma?
Sita - You came alone? Where is Kush?
Luv - I will tell. First leave me.
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Sita - Why? Don't you like being in mother's lap?
Nani comes there. She also asks about Kush. Kush comes there.
He thinks - What do I do now? If I tell about the snake, then Luv will be punished. And if I do not, then the snake will bite Ma. I have to do something.
He goes inside, pushes Luv out of Sita's lap and sits in Sita's lap himself. Luv goes out.
Sita - Kush, when did you start behaving like this? Without any reason, you wished him? He went out without uttering a bird. He must have felt very bad.
Kush also goes out.I have stolen this update from india forums web site without permission.
Nani - Now what has happened to him? He was never like this.
Sita - Mother, I myself do not understand this.

Kush goes to Luv.
Kush - Luv, why did you catch the snake?
Luv - I will frighten everybody with the snake. It will be fun. All fear the snake. Only I do not.
Kush - What if the snake had bitten Ma?
Luv - But it did not. You saved her.
Kush - What you did is not good. Take out the snake.
Luv - Not now. I will take out in the night. Then all will be frightened even more.
Kush - Take it out now. Otherwise I will tell Ma.

Luv tries to take out the snake but the snake has already escaped the bag.
Kush - What happened?I have stolen this update from india forums web site
Luv - The snake is not in the bag.

They hear ashram people shouting. The snake is in the ashram. They are trying to catch the snake but it is moving very fast. It is a huge snake. Some women of the ashram are talking that the snake is very frightening. Luv and Kush come there.
Women - Where are you two going? There is a snake.
But Kush goes to the snake. He lifts the snake with a stick. All are shocked to see this. Kush releases the snake somewhere far away.
Kush - Nag devta, forgive us for the mistakes we committed.
The snake slithers away. Sita comes there running and lifts Kush.
Some sages - Vandevi, you are very lucky. It is Maharshi Valmiki's ashram. That is why the snake did not do anything and such a small child could catch the snake.
One woman - Take Kush to Maharshi Valmiki for his blessings.

It is nice that it was shown how daring Luv and Kush are.😊
Edited by akhl - 16 years ago

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Posted: 16 years ago
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oh wow yday update bit late in the day isnt it
thanks avi anyways
but still dont know kush voice is funny though
kids r cute
i liked one scene only
ram hugs his brotehrs kids and thinks of his kids and sita
that was good
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Yes, I could not update in time because everything was looking blurred to me. This has happened earlier too.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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what happend u ok
any trouble avi
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Thanks for the wonderful update akhl.

I agree with you regarding Lav. I can understand the youngest being naughty but I am not in favour of Lav being so stubborn.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Akhl

Hope you're okay now.

Originally posted by: akhl

Sita combs Kush's hair.
Kush - Ma, it hurts.
Sita - Son, combing is important. Otherwise, we will look like wild animals.

Luv does not want his hair to be combed. He tries to escape. Sita pulls him.

Luv - I don't want my hair combed.


I missed this part, but I'm glad they showed this. Women have no idea about how we guys hate having our hair combed, particularly by them. More often then not, they tug at it, pulling our hair. I don't blame Kush or Luv for wanting to bail out of this one.👍🏼👍🏼

Originally posted by: akhl

Nani - If you get your hair combed, then I will send you to forest with ashram's children.

Sita is shocked.
Sita - Mother, what are you saying? How can we send such a small child to forest?
Luv - I will go to forest.
I have stolen this update from india forums web site without permission.
Sita - No, you cannot. You are too small.
Luv - I will. Just now, Nani said I can.
Sita - Now I am saying you cannot.
Luv - Nani is elder to you. Nani says I can.
Nani - When he is so willing, then let him go.
Sita - No mother, not now. Let him grow some more. Then he may go.

Valmiki comes there. He calls out Kush and Luv. Sita goes out to meet him.
Nani (to Luv) - Maharshi Valmiki is here. If he gives permission, then you may go to the forest.

Sita - Pranam gurudev. Luv and Kush are inside. Please come.
Valmiki - Daughter, Ram's name made me free from all attachments. The same Sri Ram's sons have again caught me in the grips of attachment.

Sita smiles.
Valmiki - Until I shower my affections on Luv and Kush, I do not feel like any rituals.
Valmiki goes inside.
Valmiki (to Nani) - Maayi, you are here? Since the day Luv and Kush were born, you are rarely seen. Now you are doing the works, which you avoided whole life.
Nani - Maharshi, my daughter's children are so lovely that I do not feel like leaving them even for a moment.

Valmiki agrees with her. Kush touches Valmiki's feet and takes his blessings.
Nani - Luv, touch maharshi's feet.
Sita - Luv, you know that you should touch the feet of elders and take their blessings.
Luv - No, I want to go to forest.
Nani - For that, it is a must to take his permission. Even your mother takes his permission. Now touch his feet.
I have stolen this update from india forums web site without permission.
Luv touches Valmiki's feet. Valmiki blesses him.
Luv - Baba, shall I go to the forest?
Valmiki - Certaintly. But come back fast. And do not do any mischief.

I did not like how Luv was shown. Showing him as chanchal is fine. But showing him as stubborn and not having manners is not good. Another thing I did not like is how Nani and Sita are behaving over Luv going to the forest. It is ok to show that Nani wants him to go to the forest. It is good to show Sita's concern. But their dialogs are as if they have made up their mind to trump each other's decision.

Yeah, generally, it was accepted that the decision of the parents was final and binding, even like today. The first time Sita objected, that should have been the end of the matter. Otherwise, the message that goes out to the kids is that if they don't like the decision by the parent, they can go somewhere else to have it overriden.

To start with, even fathers and mothers did not override each others decisions when it came to kids. Here we have 2 (for want of a better term) strangers overriding their mother. That's a terrible message to send Luv.👎🏼

I too don't like how he was shown as devoid of manners. But then again, he was very young - what's it, 3-4 years, so that sort of behavior is normal. However, he does suffer badly in contrast to Kush, who is depicted as a saintly kid even at that age. Honestly, I don't like them being contrasted this way - neither Sita nor Rama had any of these characterestics for Luv to have inherited them.👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼

Originally posted by: akhl

Nani is telling other children to take care of Luv and Kush.
Nani - They are the youngest among you. You all must take care of them.
One boy - Do not worry, Maayi. They are most dear to us. Even if you did not tell, we will take care of them.
Sita - Luv and Kush, you two also be careful. Do not move away from your friends. Do not try to go anywhere alone. In forest, there are so many wild animals. Anything can happen.

Showing Sita's concern was good. I liked it.😊
Luv - Do not worry, Ma. I will take care of Kush and all others.
So cute.😆


This is better than the previous day, when they showed Sita somewhat uncaring about how comfortable the babies were. But it does create an inconsistency in showing Sita's character. 🤔

Originally posted by: akhl

In Ayodhya
Sumant - Maharaj, this letter is from the head of a locality. You had exempted farmers from all taxes for five years. But some farmers approached him. They are saying that this time crops' production is very good. So they want to pay tax. He is asking what is the order for him.
Ram - Write to him that if this is what people want, then instead of paying tax, let them collect the amount and spend it for the development of that locality.

Sumant is happy to hear this.
Sumant - Maharaj, as you wish.


Sounds like a dream for the US IRS (Internal Revenue Service), the organization that collects taxes with a gazillion ton hammer! This part was unbelievable - people don't normally volunteer to pay taxes.

Originally posted by: akhl

Ram's nephews come there with their mothers and Kaushalya. Ram hugs them. Then feels sad remembering Sita.I have stolen this update from india forums web sitpermission.
Anujon ke shishon ko kanthh lagakar sabke sheesh pe haath firaakar
Jyonhi uthe tyon hi Sita is sudhi ne ghera Ram ko aakar
Kamal nayan maanas pe ghire baadal girate hain
Ram Siya avibhaajya prithak rah samay bitaate hain

Vidhna tere lekh kisi ki samajh na aate hain

I found this to be a very poignant part of the show. It's interesting to ponder whether bringing the nephews to Rama in this situation would be an act of love, or hard on him. On one hand, he is getting what he's missing out on - the joy of loving kids in his family. OTOH, bringing them to him is bound to remind him of the kids he's missing.😭😭😭

Originally posted by: akhl

In the forest, the children are playing.
Kush - Let us go back to the ashram.
Luv - I will not. I will play more.
Kush - Luv, I am not in the mood to play any more. I will sit there.

Kush goes and sits under a tree.

Luv throws the ball. The children go to collect the ball but they stop because there is a huge snake. They all run away.
The ball belongs to a child named Suraj.

Suraj - Where is my ball?
Luv - The ball is near the snake.
Suraj - Then bring it back.
Luv - From there?
I have stolen this update from india forums web site without permission.
Suraj - You threw it. You bring it.
Other boys - Are you mad, Suraj? How can he go there? What if the snake bites him?
Suraj - I do not know all that. I want my ball back.
Luv - You wait here. I will bring your ball.


Luv goes near the snake. He looks into the snake's eyes for some time. Then he lifts the snake and puts it inside his bag.

Children go back to the ashram. Luv goes to Sita. Sita lifts him in her lap.

Luv thinks - There is a snake in my bag. What if it bites Ma?
Sita - You came alone? Where is Kush?
Luv - I will tell. First leave me.
I have stolen this update from india forums web site without permission.
Sita - Why? Don't you like being in mother's lap?
Nani comes there. She also asks about Kush. Kush comes there.
He thinks - What do I do now? If I tell about the snake, then Luv will be punished. And if I do not, then the snake will bite Ma. I have to do something.
He goes inside, pushes Luv out of Sita's lap and sits in Sita's lap himself. Luv goes out.
Sita - Kush, when did you start behaving like this? Without any reason, you wished him? He went out without uttering a word. He must have felt very bad.
Kush also goes out.I have stolen this update from india forums web site without permission.
Nani - Now what has happened to him? He was never like this.
Sita - Mother, I myself do not understand this.

Kush goes to Luv.
Kush - Luv, why did you catch the snake?
Luv - I will frighten everybody with the snake. It will be fun. All fear the snake. Only I do not.
Kush - What if the snake had bitten Ma?
Luv - But it did not. You saved her.
Kush - What you did is not good. Take out the snake.
Luv - Not now. I will take out in the night. Then all will be frightened even more.
Kush - Take it out now. Otherwise I will tell Ma.

Luv tries to take out the snake but the snake has already escaped the bag.
Kush - What happened?I have stolen this update from india forums web site
Luv - The snake is not in the bag.

They hear ashram people shouting. The snake is in the ashram. They are trying to catch the snake but it is moving very fast. It is a huge snake. Some women of the ashram are talking that the snake is very frightening. Luv and Kush come there.
Women - Where are you two going? There is a snake.
But Kush goes to the snake. He lifts the snake with a stick. All are shocked to see this. Kush releases the snake somewhere far away.
Kush - Nag devta, forgive us for the mistakes we committed.
The snake slithers away. Sita comes there running and lifts Kush.
Some sages - Vandevi, you are very lucky. It is Maharshi Valmiki's ashram. That is why the snake did not do anything and such a small child could catch the snake.
One woman - Take Kush to Maharshi Valmiki for his blessings.

It is nice that it was shown how daring Luv and Kush are.😊

I didn't like this at all. Kids that young don't handle such animals, and what's more, Luv is depicted as impishly naughty - something totally out of character with both Rama & Sita. And Kush praying to the snake for forgiveness is unbelievable as well. Yeah, it had its funny moment of Luv finding no snake in his sack, but aside from that, I wasn't impressed at all with this incident.👎🏼

They're trying to do a Krishna's childhood, but transfering that to these 2 kids. It's not working, since Kush & Luv did not have such miraculous powers.👎🏼👎🏼

Edited by Chandraketu - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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OT: what time do they re-telecast the serial the next day?
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Thanks for the update Akhl! It's very well written like always!👏
Personally, I found this episode a lot better than the previous ones.👍🏼 True, Sita's character does not seem consistent now, but I like how she's more caring and motherly here. I hope they show her character like that throughout from now on and get rid of the Amazon personality they gave her.
The scene with Ram and his nephews was very sweet and definitely a tear jerker.😭😍 It always pains me sooo much to see the suffering of Ram and Sita in any movie/serial.😭
I too did not like how Luv's character was shown, but I'm not going to give it too much thought, because at that age, kids are very very naughty, and I don't think it has to do with the personality of parents. Naughtiness isn't necessarily something passed down from genes, and the way the Sagars showed Luv's naughtiness was cute but they also over did it. I agree with Chandra that it seems more like Shri Krishna's naughtiness, but I suppose that's alright, because I remember that earlier in the serial, when Hanuman's Bal Kand was being shown, they showed a scene with Hanuman stealing butter that's right out of Krishna Leela. I think Krishna's naughtiness is legendary and cute to use in other serials, so it doesn't matter so much.
However, I agree that Kush setting the snake free was a bit too much. I think the Sagars want to show them as brave courageous kids from small age, but they must remember that Luv and Kush are only supposed to be about 5 years old, and usually five year olds do not play with or go near snakes.
The only major problem I had with this episode was Sita's decision being overriden by two people. The Sagars should not have showed that because one of the morals of Ramayan is to teach children to obey parents always, and if Sita's order to Luv is disregarded, kids will think it's okay if other adults support them.
Otherwise, this episode was so much better than the previous ones. Hopefully, the serial will be back on track soon (though I don't know how the Sagars will manage Lavanasur later on instead of showing him before the birth of Luv Kush).
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: chatterbox

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what happend u ok
any trouble avi



Some problem with eyes. Was not able to see things clearly. But now it is OK. Sometimes it happens.

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