18 feb: big things, little things - Page 2

Originally posted by: hope08

After Heer tells Prem about how she wants to live in her present and how bad her life was after he was gone he should have hugged her. That was either very bad screenplay or very bad editing.

being hopelessly hopeful, and going with the past evidence on the editing front, i'm going with the latter... 😆

Also I felt that the Prem-Heer in front of the mirror thing should have been the first thing they show before the family at the breakfast table.

totally agreed!!! now that was a supreme case of bad editing!! or they're trying to give us a cute prem-heer moment in every segment of the show like they did on 17? 😆

Prem thing: so how much does prem actually remember? He tells heer that he remembers everything then why was he surprised to know that Heer was willing to risk her life for his family.

well, 'cause he wasn't there, no? i thought he was refering to remembering every moment they've had till the time that he disappeared? no?

The heer he knew always did that even before Prem-Heer were one.

well, she never risked her life like this for the family (pre-10/02)?

Also why is this Prem so different? He is all intense and romantic one moment and the very next he blows Heer away.

😆 intense 'cause he's prem and he hasn't had heer for a really long time now. and the .. um .. blowing her away, 'cause (i believe) heer has made him promise (or he's promised heer) that he'll undo all the hurt that he's done to her family by staying away!

btw, i think that the ownership of the junejas has been taken over by heer. noticed the way that she took gayatri-mom's hand away from prem at the bed? noticed how she is the first person to scold prem for treating harman (her brother) like that? or how she is the one to scold preet for having done the whole trip-to-ambala stunt? and (i believe that) heer has said that she can't be his wife - or the juneja's bahu - until prem takes back the role of juneja protector from her by making the family whole again. hmm...

Heer thing: she seems to be the more pushy one among the two.

well... 😆 ... i think she figures she doesn't have anything to ''prove'' in their current chess game, their ongoing battle of wits. he is the one who has to prove himself. and she loves him. she wants him..and i think she does'nt want to waste one moment with him not knowing it...

y'know? i always thought this whole returning from the dead would be a brilliant opportunity to show how people react to near-death situations. once you've been that close to being ... shut down forever. and you get a second chance? i always figured you'd want to do everything you hadn't done before. take chances. live more of life than you had in the past.

i like what i see in heer 'cause she looks like she's doing that with prem. earlier on, she was shy, controlled, allowing him to lead. now she is doing the leading, the teasing, the touching, the wanting. within the bounds of their gentleman's agreement, of course. she wouldn' t weasel on that... but she lost prem once. i can so imagine her wanting to live all of the time that they have lost. and - if such a thing happened again, a random senseless act of stooopidity that no-one can ever control - she'd have no regrets about having been shy and timid with prem, who she loves madly, insanely, to death!

no? i love it. and i think that's what we are seeing in prem too. he's seen death - knows how much he would've lost without the second chance. i kept thinking there was an edge to this prem -- even after his ''apparent return to prem from hiphop''. and maybe this sense is it?

Preet thing: Why can't Preet be the one who is always smiling and happy go lucky? Why does he also have sorrows and start crying? He looked like a lost boy as he waited for the courier.

i do not think they can ever hurt lakshman, or make him cry a tear while ram is there in front of him. they can't - can not! - make preet cry. not when ram's there. he will not cry. he will have his whole family with him. he will have his pb and his hb with him. he will be meet. he will not cry. he will not have the need. really... *preetstess making plans for a full-blown pooja giving thanks to (god) preet's pbhb this weekend...firmly. with conviction. i will do this.*

Juneja family thing: I loved the way the whole family were ragging Prem. Did you notice the cousin actually got a line to speak. But really liked Kiran's teasing but lalit took the cake. He was so subtle but put his point across very well.

😆 what? so this makes the number of his lines to... 4? 5? *does laughter during the prem-before-wedding-night teasing count as a line? 😆*

Lalit-Prem thing: so lalit had some investments why weren't they used when they needed it earlier? Also how is Prem going to revive the one which isn't doing so well?

😆 these guys at balaji telefilms soooo need a financial consultant. hey! *light going off in my head!* they should hire nihaal! 🤣

Prem-Ram thing: if Prem is Ram in true sense then will this story show him doubt heer's fidielty?

the one thing that i've been dreading see from the start of the whole ram-lakshman-sita realisation. i'm hoping prem's gonna deviate from ram track on that... after all, he doesn't have a kingdom of people to answer to, no? 😆

Prem-Heer thing: But didn't notice the eyelock between them while the family read out Preet's list.

wasn't an eyelock eggsactly. it was prem's eyes meeting heer's - a message passing between them, which heer acknowledges with a small smile.

As usual waiting and watching.

highfives hope... 😆 me too.

Originally posted by: Soaps1

The moment Prem said "heer tum mujh sey itna pyar karti ho" the epi was over for me,

😲 this is what troubled you? why so much, soaps? i was more taken aback at the way prem reacted to the rains coming down. then i thought that heer having to call him out was wrong. and then the way he sauntered out to her was strange.

but this line? i thought it was in keeping with the new .. uh .. talkative prem. i figured he's been hip-hop till recently so well, that he is articulating more. and ... it kinda made sense, no?

if (as we are made to believe) the last thing that prem remembers is stuff till the blast, then he does know how much heer loves him -- the way she handled the whole sanjana idiocy was something that would've convinced him lock-stock-n-barrel. but to think that she would giveup the love of her father's best friend, go against the love of her sister, give all the love up forever -- ie, exchange all that love and earn hate instead - from her family and from ratpal -- all 'cause she loves him with every fiber of her being is... a totally new dimension of evidence, no? is one thing to say you will do all this, if the need arises. when you actually do it... well, i wasn't surprised he was so .. touched.

what i really didn't like is how they didn't let us see how he touches heer right back!!! 😡😡

*checking teacher triv's pattshala notes... oh ya!... * creatives kay naam pey kalank! 😡😡😡

BUT heer? Heer didn't live someone else's life did she? What happened to her?

agreed. i think this was sloppy scripting, sloppy direction. i mean.c'mon! this is the heer who was ready to run down to make breakfast for her family with her hair unbrushed and in her old clothes on the first day after her marriage. that was definitely a bloooper. but... er... a cute one... 😆

One more thing i am begining to think that Prem does not remember everything, may be he told her abt it, may be he didn't because he didn't want to hurt her! thats the only thing that can justify "heer tum mujhey sey itna pyar karti ho" to me!

well, take a look at what i've scribbled and lemme know if it's even a tad tolerable?

Originally posted by: ash08

Even I want to know what Prem and Heer talked on the night after their marriage. I mean whats up with these guys? We see lots of passion, love and attraction there and they dont want to act on it. Wow, thats some control!!

😆 tell me 'bout it!!! 'cause that's exactly what i thought! man,they've got to have a good reason for this!

Now, they actually talk and say things aloud?? (reference to I love you, thank you, do you really love me so much?) I thought things like these shud be voiced out aloud after years of marriage, not days or hours.

well, dunno 'bout what gets said minutes, hours, .. or any given time interval 'round marriage. but i think is just prem that actually says these things, no? heer ... responds. 😆 like a dutiful wife! 🤣

We want Premeer moments, and we also want to know what happens................ Of late the show reminds of me of Premeer VMs on the forum....... expect that our forum guys are much better.

👏 y'know? that is a brilliant description of what they're doing on the show! pieces of the story, presented in disjointed sets. and ya, i agree totally! our forum do vms much better!

- Doesn't Kiran Jiju ever go to work? Haven't seen him ever.

for the longest time, i thought he was lalitjuneja's errand boy. 😆 kuldi had once said that they had their "chotta business'' -- um... it runs itself?

- Doesn't Prem have somewhere to go? Oh, I guess he is on leave for his impromptu wedding.

😆 no, hip-hop left the tv-channel -so that's out. i guess that leaves the hotel... *thinking* say! that hotel is still with the juneja's no?

- If the J-Zoo has dire financial constraints, then why are they keeping so many useless people in the house and feeding them?

😆 'cause they're family? and you always look after family. *paraphrasing the godfather.. 😆*

But one thing is true - Prem and Heer/HC and AG are really made for each other.

yeah...! 😍

sigh... there comes the call to come down for breakfast. sigh. why are breakfasts the worst meals to share with strangers? sigh, sigh, sigh.

have fun...

Originally posted by: Intellienough

They could have shown that flashback in different ways .Why create so much hype , rain,moon, candles , pool.

hey lans. *sigh* i agree, it did seem a very elaborate setting -- just to satisfy some directive to have a ''valentine's effort'' in the show, maybe? i dunno...

Estee i am sorry i am not in mood to comment also.This is the first time i am in nooo mood of anything.I mean u can understand.

😆 i remember a line from that movie that meher liked so much. which one was it? haan! dilwale dulha dulhan le jayengey! 😆

that movie! where as raj said ''koi baath nehi, senorita. badey-badey deshon mein aisey badey-badey baaton hotey hi rehtay hain'' 😃

🤗

Originally posted by: lghosh

so will make it short. But don't go by the regular meaning 'short'. 😃

don't worry. i'll use short from the estee-dictionary -- works? 😆

I want to know why did Prem ran as if his pants was on 'water' in this case? 😆 Or was he scared his recent obsession 'hair' will be all spoilt in that rain?

😆 y'know? when i first saw that scene, i had similar thoughts too! i wondered why he was so scared -- if he was hurt in the fire, he should like water! and then i wondered if it was a hair thing...

Then when he brought her under the shade & gave her the towel, his voice & the tone sounded very abrupt!

kinda like a guy-thing, no? my gang-guys often have that i-told-you-so attitude when we persuade them todo something which kinda goes... uh.. a tad awry at the end... 😆 is new to see prem do a guy-thing with heer? seriously? does everything change this much after you get married, i wonder?

Ok who else thought of 6/19 when Heer was toweling her face but not her eyes & her look was fixed on him?

lana!! *breathing fire, smoke rising from my hair* are talking 'bout the episode-that-must-not-be-named?? stop this instant!!! and this episode was nothing like it? this was a whole i-can-too-cook! 😆 cum i-can-too-do-romance episode. whereas that one...? at the end of long gut-wrenching uncertainty, an earth-shattering trauma, the beginning of peace and quiet and then... boom! nuclear-meltdown! *sigh* mebbe is just me. but i can never find the equal of that episode ... anytime, anywhere...

yeah. it is probably just me... 😆

And I want to see that complete scene after his marvelous 'tum mujhse itna pyar karte ho?' Do they even know what will be the repercussion of such solemn slip-up in their storyline? ***Sigh***

actually (as i wrote to soaps) i didn't have a problem with the (new over-vocal) prem saying that..

But why did he react as if he didn't know anything about Rajasthan episodes when Heer told him about that?

huh? but he wasn't there with ratpal-and-heer, no? so he does not know what happened with heer in rajasthan? and this was something only heer and ratpal can know?

How much does he remember is my question here? Does he also remember his attitude towards Heer in the Shiv mandir & on Lodi night?

i bet he does. and i bet that is part of the reason that he looks so guilty and burdened with the love and the passion he feels for her now.

And I want to know the reason for this new technique of story telling.

me too. i think is a stoooooopid way to telling this story! 😛

whatever he was eating, merely complimenting her cooking? Did any1 get that?

noticed all that. had fun with all that. 😆but what puzzled me was the wry way that he picked up the jam bottle and showed it to everyone as his valentine's day gift to heer? what was that 'bout?? 😆

And why isn't the family finding out about him?

um... 'cause they've been taking lessons from heer on how to question prem (ie,never) rather than taking lessons from prem on how to question heer (ie, always).

Again I don't know why is the need to hide from the family that Preet has lost his job? Isn't it an usual custom where people sympathise or tries to help in some way to reduce the pain?

they better!! 😡

Originally posted by: afreen.....

Prem-Heer were better off when they were just living togther not married or nethin.. they were close.. I just dont understand what is wrong with the creatives. Why are they ruining the couple's romance?

*sigh* why do i get the feeling that it's cause we expect too much from them on the romance front? sometimes i think they visit the forum, read what everyone's asking for, and do it. other times, feels like the visit the forum, read the same thing and do exactly the opposite..😆

Secondly, doesnt kiran nd kulraj hav their own houses to live in? nd Kiran jeeju is always at home.. does he never goes to work?

nope. they gave up their business and their home in canada to come here. were too poor to get their own house? or mebbe it's a lalit-juneja rule that the whole family has to stay in the same house together? seems like a lalit juneja thing to do no? 😆

AND Where is Daljeeet?!

having a baby... ! 🤣 the actress, ie.. not the acted. have no clue where dirtchachi is... but i used to hope and hope and hope that she'd (the actress) would get a note from her gynac to take bed rest... think that i had better luckwith the gynac than the creatives... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hav a lot more questions in head that can pop out but I hav an exam tom so m gona go nd study!

hey! g'luck with the exam! i hope you crack it. 👍🏼