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Posted: 16 years ago
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Thanks!
&& i agree with you zubi2008 && shellytt
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Posted: 16 years ago
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ZUBI2008: I am not disagreeing with you on "claim"; Tanya has more of a "right" to Yuv, whatever that means. And I say this because talking about having claims on people and their nonexistent-at-present love is uncomfortable for me. If Yuv loved Tanya like a true wife, he would share things with her. To him, she is a girl in a glass house who could be crushed at any moment and deserves to be happy.

I know a marriage is or at least should be a spiritual, emotional and physical commitment voluntarily made by two people for life. Right now, and I could be wrong on this, I feel like Tanya wants more than Yuv is ready to give right now. Though she is his wife, he is still championing other people (Trish, Rajdeep) and he wants to make sure they are happy, like he made sure Tanya could be happy. In different ways, of course.

EVEN REMOTELY BLAMING TRISH AND RAJ FOR TANYA's "NEW" UNHAPPINESS OR STRESS IS ABSURD. SHE CONTROLS HER OWN RESPONSES AND THEY DID NOTHING WRONG. And so you know, when Tanya cut off Trish from explaining, by saying "she is older...she did with much thought" was a slight swipe at Trishna. I'm not sure how given the total scene, people think it is Tanya being nice again and giving Trishna the benefit of the doubt. 😆 It's called sarcasm. She is reminding Trishna of limits.

Can I tell you that our talking about "claim" over Yuv, Trishna's not having any claim to Yuv, about Tanya's "claim" being bigger than Trish's is SCARY. They can decide who they want to have a claim over, and who can have a claim over them. You hope they respect their responsibilities toward each other, at least that much. And also, we are talking about people's loves, attachments, and fears, NOT REAL ESTATE OR JEWELRY OR OTHER POSSESSIONS I have claim over and my claim being greater than that of my sister.

The four of them will sort it out--and you KNOW that Yuv will miraculously fall in "love, love" with Tanya. Hey, he might figure this out as he's eating his main course over the dinner he's planning for that night. Brings new meaning to "FOOD FOR THOUGHT".

I apologize if I'm being a bit defensive--it's just that on our forum, there is a "group" mentality that just reinforces itself. Of course, everyone has their own opinions, and I have no problems with that. It's that occasionally I get frazzled by everyone legitimizing and defending every little thing Tanya does. For example, the Trishna-Tanya scene in the kitchen. Trishna tried to explain, Tanya said "you don't need to tell me di...you did this with much thought." Now, if someone actually believes she was being respectful like some have said, then you are way off. It was sarcasm, like taking a knife and sticking it NICELY into somebody. I'm telling you--she could treat Trishna like shi*, etc. and everyone would say Tanya has a "claim" over Yuv first. When she was being a baby and refused to eat or take medicine for the baby and invite Yuv to worry, that would have been considered "cute b/c she's just beginning to discover her feelings for him, she was under stress, etc.". If it were Trishna, you would have eviscerated her, accused her of being a drama queen, not staying within her limits, not moving on, not being selfless, etc. In this scene today, Tanya was acting pouty and stupid. The baby is not something to play with, even if she has a "claim" over it," right?

When I raised this issue in this very post, the response was (big surprise!): those were different situations... you can't blame Tanya. If you want to be literal about the comparison, you can't. It was the SAME thing Trishna did to Tanya before. Fine one is Mrs. Yuv and one is Mrs. Rajdeep. Fine if they chose different words. Or the houses were different. But the intent was the same. To voice displeasure and stick it to the other person. And yes, OUR TANYA IS CAPABLE OF IT. ANYONE IS, WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR EMOTIONS.

I'm not asking anyone to change their thoughts or comments--that would be very stupid. It's a forum and I enjoy reading the views.

I'd like to hear from you on this. Am I completely wrong? Is there a slight bias? etc.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: gp00

ZUBI2008: I am not disagreeing with you on "claim"; Tanya has more of a "right" to Yuv, whatever that means. And I say this because talking about having claims on people and their nonexistent-at-present love is uncomfortable for me. If Yuv loved Tanya like a true wife, he would share things with her. To him, she is a girl in a glass house who could be crushed at any moment and deserves to be happy.

I know a marriage is or at least should be a spiritual, emotional and physical commitment voluntarily made by two people for life. Right now, and I could be wrong on this, I feel like Tanya wants more than Yuv is ready to give right now. Though she is his wife, he is still championing other people (Trish, Rajdeep) and he wants to make sure they are happy, like he made sure Tanya could be happy. In different ways, of course.

EVEN REMOTELY BLAMING TRISH AND RAJ FOR TANYA's "NEW" UNHAPPINESS OR STRESS IS ABSURD. SHE CONTROLS HER OWN RESPONSES AND THEY DID NOTHING WRONG. And so you know, when Tanya cut off Trish from explaining, by saying "she is older...she did with much thought" was a slight swipe at Trishna. I'm not sure how given the total scene, people think it is Tanya being nice again and giving Trishna the benefit of the doubt. 😆 It's called sarcasm. She is reminding Trishna of limits.

Can I tell you that our talking about "claim" over Yuv, Trishna's not having any claim to Yuv, about Tanya's "claim" being bigger than Trish's is SCARY. They can decide who they want to have a claim over, and who can have a claim over them. You hope they respect their responsibilities toward each other, at least that much. And also, we are talking about people's loves, attachments, and fears, NOT REAL ESTATE OR JEWELRY OR OTHER POSSESSIONS I have claim over and my claim being greater than that of my sister.

The four of them will sort it out--and you KNOW that Yuv will miraculously fall in "love, love" with Tanya. Hey, he might figure this out as he's eating his main course over the dinner he's planning for that night. Brings new meaning to "FOOD FOR THOUGHT".

I apologize if I'm being a bit defensive--it's just that on our forum, there is a "group" mentality that just reinforces itself. Of course, everyone has their own opinions, and I have no problems with that. It's that occasionally I get frazzled by everyone legitimizing and defending every little thing Tanya does. For example, the Trishna-Tanya scene in the kitchen. Trishna tried to explain, Tanya said "you don't need to tell me di...you did this with much thought." Now, if someone actually believes she was being respectful like some have said, then you are way off. It was sarcasm, like taking a knife and sticking it NICELY into somebody. I'm telling you--she could treat Trishna like shi*, etc. and everyone would say Tanya has a "claim" over Yuv first. When she was being a baby and refused to eat or take medicine for the baby and invite Yuv to worry, that would have been considered "cute b/c she's just beginning to discover her feelings for him, she was under stress, etc.". If it were Trishna, you would have eviscerated her, accused her of being a drama queen, not staying within her limits, not moving on, not being selfless, etc. In this scene today, Tanya was acting pouty and stupid. The baby is not something to play with, even if she has a "claim" over it," right?

When I raised this issue in this very post, the response was (big surprise!): those were different situations... you can't blame Tanya. If you want to be literal about the comparison, you can't. It was the SAME thing Trishna did to Tanya before. Fine one is Mrs. Yuv and one is Mrs. Rajdeep. Fine if they chose different words. Or the houses were different. But the intent was the same. To voice displeasure and stick it to the other person. And yes, OUR TANYA IS CAPABLE OF IT. ANYONE IS, WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR EMOTIONS.

I'm not asking anyone to change their thoughts or comments--that would be very stupid. It's a forum and I enjoy reading the views.

I'd like to hear from you on this. Am I completely wrong? Is there a slight bias? etc.

You are not wrong. 😳 And all your posts are absolutely wonderful and thoughtful. But I think you are getting us wrong. Most of the time we are not really determining who is right who is wrong. Everyone has made their shares of mistakes. What we judge on is how much the person's action is affecting the others or what is the intention. If you notice everyone who likes Tanya also likes trish. The difference is we LOVE tanya. We don't support her mistakes. But most of us feel a deep connection with her and justify her actions. For instance when she tried to kill herself no one said she was right. We said she was dead wrong and it was a dumb decision. But we kept in mind though she is dumb she did it because she didn't want to shame Yuv. So we loved her for it.
I am not blaming anyone currently but I am not liking anyone either.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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thanks for the update
so nice to know trish tanya still respect each other

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