Mannat Har Khushi Paane Ki: Episode Discussion Thread - 41 - Page 98

Originally posted by: truptishree

Not only Decay but Mannat also shielded criminals when found out about Dadi. She made a deal with Vish for not letting Vik know the truth in exchange of their freedom. She chose lies over his criminals and let them go. Just warned Malla knowing very well how manipulative and crimes she committed.

As for Neetu I am still not convinced with her WW and I don't think I will. It's just that at least she is realizing her mistakes and don't want Mannat to repeat the same mistake with Dua which they did with Vik. IDT it's wrong. At the end of the day lies are lies and you have to face the consequences of it like she is facing. She had to stay away from that one person she loves the most in whole world.

Exactly my point right? People are quick to bring Vik's actions and mistakes but conveniently forget Mannat's actions.

Only Vik is not responsible they all are. Then why only Blame Vik when everyone contributed in this mess to begin with?

So why shouldn't they be together? Nitu is actually the only person thinking logically here.

Originally posted by: Mona_HappyLife

And why she did that? Did she do to harm or kill Vikrant?

Would Vikrant had believed her if she had shared all these with him ? She also didn’t have any concrete evidence. So why should she face all outburst alone ?

People are quick to put entire blame on Mannat as if she was born to clear Vikrant's mess only & she doesn't have any other job.

Vikrant's impulsiveness has been a problem from day 1.

A partner has to be a good listener too, simply love is not going to fix your life..

Why again same fu***ng protection crap? He was not a toddler who need protection. He could've handled truth as well as himself just like Mannat did because she was surrounded by people who loved her. Vik also would've gotten through it because of their love but they chose to lie and that broke his trust and him.

First lie,hide ,break trust and expect trust from the same person. How's that fair?

If we are expecting Vik to trust her without proofs then why not same expections from Mannat? That she will make him priority and will be transparent with him. Nobody told her to clear his mess. In fact as a life partner she should've just stood by him when his life turned upside down instead of choosing others over him. Actually I don't agree with you but I simply wanted them to choose each other but they didn't and now they both are paying price for it💔. If partner should be good listener then other partner also should be transparent and there should be no secrets when you are gonna spend your life with that person . Here she was planning to lie his whole life in the name of protection. Imagine if Vikrant was at her place and if he did the same with Mannat. I am sure you still would've blame Vik only. Then all the protection crap would've gone for a toss blaming him only🤪 then why not same rule for Mannat?

Now about your other post.

Yes they changed narrative from Vik knowing about pregnancy and rejected his own kid to Vik didn't even listen. When Mannat came to tell him she thought he is talking about pregnancy and he thought she is talking about Decay's proposal. That's the MU and it was further became messy when Malla came with divorce papers and told Mannat that Vik don't want to do anything with this kid and Mannat can't come back to claim rights on property because of the kid.

Mannat only went once. 2nd time she wanted to send him message but Decay told her to sent voice note but she couldn't because of Shruti.

So now as per Mannat he knew about the pregnancy then how come suddenly its he didn't even listen because of anger?🤔

If you read correctly then I never blamed Mannat alone . I blamed all including Vik. All are responsible for this mess that's what I said. As for Neetu I am still mad at her and don't think being a mom myself I can forgive her for harming her own kid 😡. I just said right now she is the only one who is realizing what she did wrong regarding Vik and their lies have caused catastrophe in their lives and she don't want Mannat to repeat same mistake.

TBH I can't deal with this bias and blindness where people don't even have guts to call spade a spade.

If Vikrant is at fault then all are. If we want his redemption then Mannat and RoTu also have to go through redemption for what they did.

With due respect I respect your POV but if you can't do that then better stay away from my posts 🤬👿 there's no need to quote my posts or even react to it.

peace out

Originally posted by: truptishree

Why again same fu***ng protection crap? He was not a toddler who need protection. He could've handled truth as well as himself just like Mannat did because she was surrounded by people who loved her. Vik also would've gotten through it because of their love but they chose to lie and that broke his trust and him.

First lie,hide ,break trust and expect trust from the same person. How's that fair?

If we are expecting Vik to trust her without proofs then why not same expections from Mannat? That she will make him priority and will be transparent with him. Nobody told her to clear his mess. In fact as a life partner she should've just stood by him when his life turned upside down instead of choosing others over him. Actually I don't agree with you but I simply wanted them to choose each other but they didn't and now they both are paying price for it💔. If partner should be good listener then other partner also should be transparent and there should be no secrets when you are gonna spend your life with that person . Here she was planning to lie his whole life in the name of protection. Imagine if Vikrant was at her place and if he did the same with Mannat. I am sure you still would've blame Vik only. Then all the protection crap would've gone for a toss blaming him only🤪 then why not same rule for Mannat?

Now about your other post.

Yes they changed narrative from Vik knowing about pregnancy and rejected his own kid to Vik didn't even listen. When Mannat came to tell him she thought he is talking about pregnancy and he thought she is talking about Decay's proposal. That's the MU and it was further became messy when Malla came with divorce papers and told Mannat that Vik don't want to do anything with this kid and Mannat can't come back to claim rights on property because of the kid.

Mannat only went once. 2nd time she wanted to send him message but Decay told her to sent voice note but she couldn't because of Shruti.

So now as per Mannat he knew about the pregnancy then how come suddenly its he didn't even listen because of anger?🤔

If you read correctly then I never blamed Mannat alone . I blamed all including Vik. All are responsible for this mess that's what I said. As for Neetu I am still mad at her and don't think being a mom myself I can forgive her for harming her own kid 😡. I just said right now she is the only one who is realizing what she did wrong regarding Vik and their lies have caused catastrophe in their lives and she don't want Mannat to repeat same mistake.

TBH I can't deal with this bias and blindness where people don't even have guts to call spade a spade.

If Vikrant is at fault then all are. If we want his redemption then Mannat and RoTu also have to go through redemption for what they did.

With due respect I respect your POV but if you can't do that then better stay away from my posts 🤬👿 there's no need to quote my posts or even react to it.

peace out

Why the fcuk it is wrong to protect your loved ones ? What is the issue here ?.

Mannat usko dhakel deti kya problem mei. When he was getting those nightmares/seizures Mannat was by his side & knew very well what would be the repercussions but still she begged RoTu to tell the truth themselves.

Mannat has always been transparent with him from day 1 even when they had boss colleague relationship..

Even after getting bashed by him left & right she still accepted the way he is & told Shalini that she is fine with the way Vikrant keeps asking for proof.

But when she started giving him the proofs tabhi Vikrant ko problem tha.

He will listen to everyone but not to her. He Will listen to just 1 side of the version but not the other one. What kind of behaviour is that ?

And we all saw first hand how he handled the truth & how he abandoned her publicly ?

Shaadi kar leta, fir fight karta Mannat se..kuch bhi kar leta. At the end both would have sorted out...

I have again & again told that Vikrant’s anger towards RoTu & Mannat is justified for Aman's truth but CAing her based on that kal ki aayi hui Vishakha of that 1 twisted image completely forgetting how Mannat was excited about her own marriage, abandoning her publicly and then not even letting her speak completely when she kept her self respect aside & went again to inform him about pregnancy...

Now toh it is secondary that if he knew about pregnancy or not, the primary part is he left her at the marriage hall, did not let her talk & now after 7yrs expecting Mannat to forget everything & tell Dua everything at one go is sheer Injustice...specially on the child....

You can go on & on about this..

If other are at fault and Mannat is not dhudh ki Dhuli hui then Vikrant is not either and he is not naive that he always needs someone by his side to make is decisions....he needs to mend his ways too...

Originally posted by: jhalak7

You are talking like Neetujee

That’s why I am team vamps.

It’s so funny how Ashwini was like Khandmata

And now Neetu is like Chudail Vidya

I bet Ayesha ki next onscreen Saas will be like the Gen 5 Saas

Originally posted by: Mona_HappyLife

Why the fcuk it is wrong to protect your loved ones ? What is the issue here ?.

Mannat usko dhakel deti kya problem mei. When he was getting those nightmares/seizures Mannat was by his side & knew very well what would be the repercussions but still she begged RoTu to tell the truth themselves.

Mannat has always been transparent with him from day 1 even when they had boss colleague relationship..

Even after getting bashed by him left & right she still accepted the way he is & told Shalini that she is fine with the way Vikrant keeps asking for proof.

But when she started giving him the proofs tabhi Vikrant ko problem tha.

He will listen to everyone but not to her. He Will listen to just 1 side of the version but not the other one. What kind of behaviour is that ?

And we all saw first hand how he handled the truth & how he abandoned her publicly ?

Shaadi kar leta, fir fight karta Mannat se..kuch bhi kar leta. At the end both would have sorted out...

I have again & again told that Vikrant’s anger towards RoTu & Mannat is justified for Aman's truth but CAing her based on that kal ki aayi hui Vishakha of that 1 twisted image completely forgetting how Mannat was excited about her own marriage, abandoning her publicly and then not even letting her speak completely when she kept her self respect aside & went again to inform him about pregnancy...

Now toh it is secondary that if he knew about pregnancy or not, the primary part is he left her at the marriage hall, did not let her talk & now after 7yrs expecting Mannat to forget everything & tell Dua everything at one go is sheer Injustice...specially on the child....

You can go on & on about this..

If other are at fault and Mannat is not dhudh ki Dhuli hui then Vikrant is not either and he is not naive that he always needs someone by his side to make is decisions....he needs to mend his ways too...

Like saying goes I am coming across as a bigger fool to even argue

Felt like tagging you after a long time. Skip this if you don't want to communicate...

1. Mannat till Amans truth had not hidden anything from Vik... rather she was always very open about what she thought and shared infos with him. They used to have so many fights with each other because of that. We all know what happened. (Mannat had even exposed Neetus drugging kaand prior to Sunitas death).

2. The other one where she did hide for a short amount of time was Mallas ONS... but she had also apologized to Vik on Hariyali teej without revealing why. And later exposed Malla with proper proofs.

3. Amans truth she did not want to hide, she had begged Neetu to reveal it. Neetu chose to hide it citing mothers right. When Mannat decided to hide after Vishs last expose can be considered as her failed judgement for which she paid a price and is still paying a price. If Vik lost so has Mannat and its really not a question of whose loss is bigger.

All we expect is Neetu to extend the same courtesy to Mannat. Mannat stood by her promise to Neetu pre leap and suffered... Neetu doesnt bother to do that.

4. What happened in the wedding was an aftermath... neither RoTu nor Mannat nor DK were aware of the presence of the video tape (which BTW presented only Vish side of story) ... Indore gang was left scrambling to convince Vik their version.

Vish played the bigger game and had it not been for her expose... Vik would still have been under her influence. In his own words he didnt look for his parents or Mannat. If this expose had not happened, Vik would have never realised either. He would still have lost on everything.

5. There is no change in narrative regarding Duas truth. Mannat did come to inform him. It is Vik who said he knows about her good news and hence she assumed he was aware.

The anomaly here is Mannats panic dream which doesnt exactly fits this but because it is based on a trauma, I guess it is supposed to be illogical.

6. Till post leap they all believed Vik was aware and he disowned Mannat Dua. I cannot pinpoint the exact moment but I believe only around the ice Gola kaand and hospital visit did it clear for Mannat that Vik didnt knew about the pregnancy. The makers have never clarified this properly through any dialogue.

But every time Vik says Dua is his niece Mannat goes into a shell.

7. Mannat has never said Dua is DKs daughter or DK is her husband. But yes she didnt clarify to Vik. She let him presume. Infact Dua had clearly said Mannat is still Mannat Shruti Khanna. Mannat doesn't ever wear a MS or sindoor and the writers have been careful to not have any ritualistic behaviour from DM as a couple.

8. Not only Mannat but Vik has shielded criminals too... Malla being the most recent one. He put that decision on Mannat whether to forgive Malla or not by saying she is your perpetrator. Did he conveniently forget Malla tried to molest him??? Is she not his criminal... why is it only Mannats decision to let her go and why blame her alone...

9. Same goes for RoTu... all of them allowed Vish to be present at wedding because they believed they had trapped her with jail threat and she will stay true to her words. Its their collective stupidity to believe a criminals words. Not Mannats alone.

10. Neetu is quick to remind Vik of his grave errors in today's episode and tomm (as per precap). She blames DK for bringing Vish into their life. But she conveniently forgets that had there not been an accident caused by her 30 years ago... none of this would have happened. Wheres the accountability for that one??? I dont remember Neetu ever apologizing for that.

11. My issue with the custody case is not Vik getting custody... its Ys presence... if DK not right around Mannat and Dua then Y cant be around Vik and Dua either. What Neetu should have done in my opinion is to throw these 3rd parties away first and sitting down and resolving this calmly instead of going the legal and confrontational route. As expected its going to put Mannat vs Vikrant again 💔

Last but very important point... we all know how deeply Mannat loved Vik... and the makers wanted a leap... if it had been a simple issue the leap wouldn't have been possible. Mannat was ready to beg for her life for her mistake and she came back to Vik one last time even keeping her self respect away... it needed a harsh situation like CA for Mannat to go away permanently...

Its really no point bringing it all up again and again when the whole point of hiding Aman truth was to get a leap.

Strangely Vik has not embraced Aman persona when it played such a big part of separation. He is now claiming Dua as Saluja... which means he considers himself a Saluja. I hope to see a realization on this from him... why he wants to be known as Saluja and not Kumar.

I do agree with you that everyone needs a redemption... even Mannat. But I don't see it happening till Dua suffers because of DK and vamps... as sad as it sounds 😭

Theres a role reversal which is happening. DK is Malla, Mannat is Vik and Vik is Mannat.

Feel free to ignore if you don't want to indulge me.

Originally posted by: scarlett22

Interesting time to be back to writing updates . He said, she said, tu tu main main.

• Manvik talk continuation. Too short as usual. But they do have an understanding with each other; that Dua will not / should not be troubled or confused at this point. Mannat rightly asks; what will they tell her; will she understand? Vik agrees, but he is obviously devastated, and he cries on her lap. Mannat also cries; but her objective is to keep Dua safe from all the mess the adults have created.
• Ronnie is furious with Neetu. Neetu tells him she did not tell Vik it was DK who told him. Ronnie is shocked! !DK is standing at the window; like a 60's style tragic hero, with tears in his eyes. he tells Neetu; he is afraid of losing his daughter; so what is wrong if he is insecure! At this point, DK seems to be the only one who is allowed to have any feelings. Mannat to khair chod hi do; noone cares about her anyway.
• DK adds that he will allow Vikrant to be part of his family. This triggers Neetu. She tells him; this is Vikrant's family. Mannat is Vikrant's love, Dua is Vikrant's daughter. Who is he to give 'permission' to Vikrant? DK tells her clearly; he will fight for his daughter, he will not lose. Ronnie says he will never talk to Neetu. Neetu breaks down, but she promises herself she will return Vik's family to him.
• Mall & Y are wondering what is going on. Malla gives Yashika one bit of info that Neetu used to hate Mannat at one point. Am sure Neetu will use Yashika.
• Like i said, only DK is allowed to feel bad. DuA and Bunty are playing a game, but Dua is feeling bad, becasue her Baba is feeling bad. She is unhappy because she saw DK upset. y comes there & tries to find out but the kids don't give her any info.
• Vik sees the kids; & starts walking towards them, he bumps into DK. DK tells him very clearly; that he should stay away from Dua. Once again, he recollects Dua's childhood; she used to get nightmares, he used to hold her; and tells Vik, everything Dua is is because of his upbringing; so Vik can't walk in last minute and take her away. All correct from his POV. And he gets very good dialogues.
• Vik patiently listens to him; and then tells him he cannot stop him from meeting Dua. DK needs to accept that Vik is her father. Mannat hears the last part ; and storms in. She is in total panic. She tells him only she as Dua's mother will take decisions for Dua. DK hears this; & feels bad (hmm, like I said, only DK has feelings). Vik agrees with Mannat; but he insists that he also has rights. Mannat tells him off; saying he drew the lines earlier; and he should not cross it. Which is also right. Vik threw away his rights; when he walked off in the middle of the pheras (this is me)
• She is in a total panic; becasue he mentions legally; she says he is threatening them legally.
• Interestingly, she talks about property papers not divorce papers!! How??
• Dear Jassi and co: Since it was Malla who gave the divorce papers; as an audience are we to forget that divorce papers were given at all?? Because whatever Malla does is supposed to be forgotten. Yuvi is not even around in scenes now.

Pre-cap: Neetu provokes Vik to fight for Dua.

Good to see your detailed updates once again. But should the content spike your BP, please take a break!

Originally posted by: truptishree

Like saying goes I am coming across as a bigger fool to even argue

Trupti, I never asked you to not present your point. Its a public forum. You me or anyone is free to post.

I have consistently maintained one point that when everyone is at fault apart from Vikrant & each and everyone's character gets dissected so minutely including the sideys then why it is so difficult for people here to also accept the fact that Vikrant's impulsiveness is also the core issue..

Why people get triggered whenever this point is brought up ?

I have observed that whenever this point is brought up people are quick to start the same discussion all over again that Mannat did this, Mannat did that, she hid, she lied, etc etc but from when all these started for the 1st time and why it happened no one wants to ponder over that...?

Everytime 1 person cannot be given benefit of doubt ...

If everyone here thinks Mannat needs to be transparent then Vikrant should also provide the confidence or give her a chance now to be transparent with him.

If he continues to howl/shout/publicly defame her then Mannat kya, kal Yashika bhi usko kahin ka nai choregi...and Yashika is anyways a vamp..she will take revenge in her own way of her beizzatti if done by Vikrant...