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Posted: 4 hours ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

If they flip the script probably it would be Vaishnavi falling for Rio and Parth with become negative..

Later Parth needs to be k1lled by Nandani...

I mean what else could be the reason that after like 4 months Vaishnavi has still not fallen for Parth?


off topic do you remember if they had shown a divorce of Sahil and Ganga before Sahil married Trupti

It’s possible they do this but Parth actor can barely pull off a positive character, can he even be expected to pull off a negative shade? Especially when Aakash is back?! The OG baddie?

I think Vaishnavi is this season’s Nandini and Parth will be Karan. But both actors are so weak that they need Rio to even make themselves seem relevant and divert attention from the fact that their chemistry is as spark inducing as rubbing two bits of paper together hoping they would catch fire.

There was no such problem with Hiten Gauri.

The real litmus test is if we see a Tanya 2.0; and whom she chases smiley36 that’s when we know for sure who is this generation’s Karan and who is Ansh between Karan’s 2 sons! smiley36

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Posted: 4 hours ago

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Karan has been helping him stay delusional then?! smiley36

and how come Karan and Niyati have a photo with some 12 years old then

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Posted: 4 hours ago

Yeah no, the scene where Tulsi sees Rio wasn’t impactful at all due to how horrendous Akashdeep looks.

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Posted: 4 hours ago

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

It’s possible they do this but Parth actor can barely pull off a positive character, can he even be expected to pull off a negative shade? Especially when Aakash is back?! The OG baddie?

I think Vaishnavi is this season’s Nandini and Parth will be Karan. But both actors are so weak that they need Rio to even make themselves seem relevant and divert attention from the fact that their chemistry is as spark inducing as rubbing two bits of paper together hoping they would catch fire.

There was no such problem with Hiten Gauri.

The real litmus test is if we see a Tanya 2.0; and whom she chases smiley36 that’s when we know for sure who is this generation’s Karan and who is Ansh between the Karan’s 2 sons! smiley36

I seriously don't believe that Ekta couldn't find a decent actor to play negative role.. That she had to bring Akash.

But I don't think they will repeat KNA track

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Posted: 4 hours ago

Originally posted by: Me_Harini

I agree with this take. The actual story of Kyunki was supposed to be of a Widow remarriage but public reaction of Mihir's death is something Ekta never anticipated and she just cashed on it. Tulsi had to apparantly move on with Anupam as per original track but somehow Mihir came back based on Public demand.

Also Ronit didn't replace Amar immediately...there was another less popular face who replace Mihir post leap (I dont recall his name) and after a while Ronit replace second actor who played Mihir.

I am not in agreement that Ansh isn't disposable because makers hold the authority to turn any character from grey to good, good to useless but I agree that Ansh left a lasting impression on Viewers. The track where Tulsi killed her own son is applauded by many even today. Ekta tried to cash on same thing in YHM but she didn't succeed considering neither Adi was never Ansh nor Ishita was never Tulsi

The second actor was Inder Kumar. He wasn’t good enough and was replaced.

Adi was a good boy turned rouge out of nowhere, which is why that track failed to resonate. The actor also couldn’t pull off the same level of performance as Aakash. With Ansh we always knew where he stood, who he was and that ultimately his end was either jail or death. Jail would mean he can keep coming back but Ekta decided to go iconic and recreate Mother India.

Even DABH tried to recreate the same scene with Bhabho and her son and failed much like YHM. Her son was also turned into a monster out of the blue from just another lazy, good for nothing idler.

The problem with Ekta is she keeps trying to milk it repeatedly. She doesn’t comprehend that ending something is good too sometimes. She wants to keep cashing in on what she made iconic but she doesn’t realise that what made it iconic was that she gave us exactly the foundation that Ansh needed and got the perfect actor for him too. We rooted for his death and despised his very existence from day one. He didn’t turn bad for the sake of shock value like in YHM and DABH from a good/decent character. He was bad from day one. We knew exactly what he was once he was established though we didn’t understand why Ekta suddenly had a son pop up out of nowhere.

The track had a point - sometimes good people are born to bad people and vice verse. Like Prahlad was born to a demon king, quite literally; and is still Narayan’s greatest Bhakt we think of even today. Tulsi ended up being like Gandhari who had blinders on when her own blood was in question until it was too late. The only difference is she didn’t curse anyone else for his actions or for what she eventually had to do but accepted it as her actions and fate.

No other set of actors have been able to replicate the phenomenon of the Mother India moment Ansh Tulsi created. Not even by Ekta herself. That’s telling. It’s not just because other shows shoehorned in this twist for just shock value but also because they didn’t establish their villains like Ansh was established; the actors are also responsible for this owing to their acting chops. That’s my point.

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Posted: 4 hours ago

Originally posted by: Me_Harini

When you mentioned abt wig I kind of recalled the wig artists have used on Akashdeep in today's epi...its kind of weird...in chakkar of giving him a funky that wig makes his look standout more where he doesn't even look like 26 yr old...smiley36

Budget and age…

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Posted: 4 hours ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

I seriously don't believe that Ekta couldn't find a decent actor to play negative role.. That she had to bring Akash.

But I don't think they will repeat KNA track

She should’ve just brought Pearl.

He’s a good actor and would’ve looked good as Ansh’s son.

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Posted: 4 hours ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

and how come Karan and Niyati have a photo with some 12 years old then

Yep. That’s why it’s not a delusion.

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Posted: 4 hours ago

I am still hoping against hope that Tulsi saw the parchai of Ansh in Rio and she thought she saw Ansh but actually it's being played by some other actor

Aside I really have one doubt

Firstly Karan told Niyati that we are only 4 people so who is the fourth one

And also when Nandani saw Niyati Karan together, Karan asks her "Nawab Sahab kahan hain" to which Niyati responds tumhaara hi beta hai, ghar pe kahan tikta and bla bla.. Now, we know Rio came from the US today, and Karan seems to be pretty much involved in this family, so he should know that Rio isn't in India, so why would he ask about him? And even if he didn't know and asked, Niyati should have said that he isn't back from the US yet. Now unless ofcourse Rio was in India that day, then went to US next day to return in a couple of days (I don't think much time has passed. Nandani followed Karan and saw them together for the first time on the Munni got the award, it was next day party when she scolds and everything about Ba's oath happened and then Tulsi is sent the photo by Gautam on the same day when his assistant tells him that Nandani bhabhi ne kal Karan bhaiyya se.....The same day Niyati says Rio will return that night. So it's practically 2-3 days(I don't think any flight to the US will make him do to and from in this short time

Now maybe I am reading too much, but I think that there is one more person in place. Either another child someone very important.

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Posted: 4 hours ago

Originally posted by: The_Best

We can’t have one rule for Karan and then different rules for others. We have been following S1 story for every character until makers say otherwise. They have only removed Bhoomi just as they have removed many other characters and instead introduced new characters this season who didn’t exist previous season. But what we know is Tanya exists this season too and Karan has a child with her. Makers have also not said Ansh raped Nandini or that he was Nandini’s husband this season yet, but we believe he was Nandini’s husband and raped her because of S1. Makers have also not said Teesha was Gautam’s lover or she was his wife later, but we believe that all happened because of S1 and because this season they haven’t denied it yet. Same for countless other stories which makers haven’t changed yet. So we are going by same rule and following S1 story for Karan Tanya’s story too until they say something else

Apologies for stepping into this discussion but I think we cannot selectively ignore what the show itself is choosing to acknowledge.

The makers may not have explicitly used certain terms for Ansh’s actions in S2, but in todays episode Tulsi’s recollection clearly reinforces what had happened in S1 and why she killed Ansh. In today’s episode, she recalls killing Ansh specifically because of the way he treated Nandini. That context is important. And in yesterday’s episode, when Tulsi says to Nandini “tum keh rahi ho ki main apne bete ka saath dungi… tum?”, it directly reflects her stance on that incident where she killed her own son to save Nandini. So it’s not really practical to completely dismiss or dilute that part of S1 which is still being acknowledged through her perspective.

Now coming to another major inconsistency - Bhumi. In S1 Bhumi was a central reason behind Karan marrying Tanya. That track narratively tied to her existence. But in S2 Bhumi does not exist at all. So how are we supposed to justify that marriage now? If the very foundation of that relationship is removed then logically the entire context around Karan Tanya also changes.

This is where the larger issue comes in S2 is not consistently following S1 continuity.

Because if we are choosing to go strictly by S2 then we need to apply that approach across all characters, not selectively. For example, Gautam’s storyline has been simplified. His past with Teesha, his multiple children, he basically had 3 kids in S1 but here in S2 Gautam has just Nakul. I still will consider Gautam was married to Teesha even in S2 coz Tulsi recalls Mandira hugging Mihir from S1 when Noyan claims that she and Mihir had ONS. Tulsi saw this when she went to Australia to speak to Teesha and convince her to marry Gautam. With this recalling episode of Mandira Mihir hugging from S1 its also established that Mihir emotionally cheated Tusli while S2 established he physically got involved with Mandira while he had lost his memory. So in S2 Mihir is an emotional cheater but not a physical cheater. And coming back to Gautam - we need to accept the S2 version of Gautam as it is where he is just married to Teesha then Damini and had Nakul with without constantly pulling in S1 details to question it until and unless makers chose to bring Damini's first love Karan's angle into their relationship.

The same logic should apply to Karan as well.

As of now, in S2, it has not been established anywhere that - Nandini giving birth to bhumi and slipping into coma, The exact circumstances under which he married Tanya, Nandini going to Jail, Nandini giving birth to Parth in Jail and Tanya giving birth to Manthan. Basically bhumi is not part of S2 at all... if bhumi herself is not in S2 Nandini would never go into coma because she slipped into coma right after delivering the baby. So if this itself is not established how can we even consider Karan Tanya got married while Nandini was in coma?

All we know is that Tanya exists in his life. That is the only confirmed fact.

On top of that Parths presence itself creates timeline inconsistencies. In S1 - Parth was Karan and Nandini’s son, but in S2 his character does not align with the earlier events. That clearly indicates that the makers have altered or restructured parts of the story.

Given all this, building a cheating narrative purely on assumptions does not feel justified.

Its just mentioned Parth is Tanya's Son. Say lets agree Karan had Parth with Tanya while married to Nandini in S2...It is no where established that Karan had EMA with Tanya in S2. Also, from a character perspective, it does not align. If bhumi doesn't exist in S2, nandini never slipped into coma...and he should have had EMA with Tanya. If he had cheated her ...she would not be with him but here in S2 Nandini is still with Karan. She would have called out cheating when she was accusing him in yesterday's episode while Karan acknowledged that he never cheated on her in front of everyone.... And Tulsi, who has always taken a very strong moral stand against wrongdoing (even against her own family) has not shown any indication of condemning Karan in that way. Say if he had cheated...will he be even comfortable to speak to Tulsi abt Tanya?..in an epi when Tulsi and Karan were discussing abt Parth - Karan mentions Tanya. How would he be comfortable to speak abt her when he cheated his legally married wife Nandini. If something as serious as cheating had actually been part of his story in this version, it is very unlikely that both these characters would react the way they are.

So either we fully accept S1 continuity and start questioning all these gaps and inconsistencies or just accept that S2 is a modified narrative and judge characters only based on what is explicitly shown now. But mixing both selectively holding onto certain S1 elements while ignoring others is not really consistent. At this point the most reasonable approach is to wait for the makers to clearly establish Tanya’s backstory. Until then assigning definitive labels based on incomplete or altered information feels not right.

Edited by Me_Harini - 3 hours ago

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