Dhurandhar 2 Reviews with spoilers!!!! - Page 28

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

This is why Dhurandhar will remain a topic of conversation for months to come. Had Dhar killed Jaskirat/Hamza we would’ve been sad, proud and grieved but ultimately we would have labelled it as an inevitable outcome of the dangerous life path he was on. He was in danger be it as Hamza as a gangster caught in gang wars or the cops killing him. He was in danger if he was exposed - either way he was on a date with death almost daily.

Keep him alive and give him a happy ending by making sure he gets to bring his wife and kid home to India, it would’ve worked for a while but seemed unrealistic given how he still would have to deal with the consequences of the case he was being prosecuted for while having to be on vigil constantly for ISI elements in Punjab getting to his family.

Make him and both sides of his families live in a different country altogether as they assume new fake identities and it wraps up everything in a neat bow but you get closure and you move on from the story, the characters and it eventually ends up being in a way no different from the other happy spy films that drop the ball in the end.

Jaskirat completing at his mission is an absolute win but he’s losing at his life - loses his family (both sides of the border), his identity and even himself. That’s what makes the ending stay with you - it’s haunting and tragic, ironically for a hero who has achieved his goals and delivered exactly what was expected and asked from him.

He came home to rest… only to realise, he had no right to even do that, he no longer had a home to return to, even if he wanted. And just like Sanyal said, he can’t expect medals or honours for doing what he did either. There’s no glory, nor rest. There’s nothing for him on a personal level.

He can’t go back to the family who has moved on, he can’t get back or go back to the family he left behind either. To them, he’s now better off dead than living be it as Jaskirat or as Hamza.

And ironically, the only ones who know of his existence, those who are aware of both his identities, his existence and notice he’s gone missing only think of him as nothing more than an asset too.. he’s not referred to by either of his names when he’s reported missing as well - he’s referred as an “asset”.

When you think about that part you realise he didn’t just lose the things mentioned above - he also lost his personhood and was reduced to being an “asset”. Truly the most tragic character ever created in modern movie history in India in god knows how long.

In a way its also the self imposed punishment for leaving his loved ones behind for no wrong of theirs...The more we delve into it, the more haunting its becoming....*shudders*

Dhar should look into writing a melodrama...It will be an epic!

Originally posted by: sammy1956

I completely agree by keeping him alive ,dhar managed to convey the tragedy of choosing to serve your country as a spy , he is literally an unknown man . No family , no friends , no name !!! Such a tragic end !!

Yep.

It broke my heart to see Bansal calling him an asset in that scene even though I understand it’s not out of disrespect or even disregard; they’re in a line of work where they can never be too careful nor too trusting of anything or anyone, anywhere. I mean I know Dhurandhar is name of an entire mission and he was a part of it, perhaps the most important and powerful one, but yet only a part so Bansal couldn’t use that name. Hamza no longer exists and as such couldn’t be used even as a code name even if the head of ISI himself knows the truth. They can’t even use Rangi or Jaskirat for him lest someone/something be spying on them and it could compromise the security of his family even with this little clue and they certainly can’t afford that too.

It’s not cruelty but a necessity that he be addressed only as an asset until the next mission; but it just feels so wrong and terrible on so many levels.

The head understands the rationale behind everything but the heart hurts nonetheless.

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

I heard him speaking in very pure Hindi, no trace of accent or discomfort with any words and they flowed so easily on the recent launch event.

I would definitely love to see him do a period/fantasy drama. We know he’s got the chops courtesy of Bajirao.

He could also perhaps play Raja Bharat or maybe Vikram from Vikram and Betaal. I would love an unhinged Rajkumar Rao as Betaal while Ranveer dons the role of Raja Vikramaditya. Would be absolutely fantastic.

Of course if he’s Dhar’s Ashwathamma, it would be probably even better because can you imagine the buzz around their reunion especially on what Dhar has called his dream project so many times?

Ashwathamma cannot be done because I believe it was somewhat in the lines of Kalki...

But yeah the other stories can be explored...My personal favorite is Chandragupta Maurya, with Ranveer and Akshaye Khanna! It will be Epic!

Originally posted by: catchm-ifucan

In a way its also the self imposed punishment for leaving his loved ones behind for no wrong of theirs...The more we delve into it, the more haunting its becoming....*shudders*

Dhar should look into writing a melodrama...It will be an epic!

It’s not even a self imposed punishment because if it were he would’ve known what he did wrong… he would’ve had to have been wrong in the first place to begin with.

Here he was not wrong in anything.

He didn’t know what tragedy would befall his family when he would be gone to simply follow in the footsteps of his father and grandfather before him. He didn’t have an option but to go avenge his family as he was denied even the opportunity to ask justice for them. He did what he did for his motherland.

Even though he married Yalina in a calculated move, you could tell that he genuinely loved her thanks to that one last phone call between them. Even before that, in the scene where she’s pointing a gun at him. She literally goes on her knees and asks him to kill her, he could have done that and staged it as an accident; after all he had no clue her dad was on his side too at that point. Jamali may have grieved but he would have perhaps understood the situation and overlooked his loss for the larger picture. But we see him calmly explaining to her why he’s doing what he’s doing… and later he joins his hands and apologises for the pain and hurt he’s caused her. But not once did he ever raise his voice or hands upon her. He could have killed her and gotten away with it but he wasn’t able to even think about it not just because she’s a part of his cover but as she’s his wife, the mother of his child and the woman he loves.

Nothing tells me that he loves her deeply as much as him offering to tell her his real name. They both knew that this was it… he couldn’t be with her again after this ever. He couldn’t leave her without telling her he loves her but instead of using those words, he does something even more meaningful. He gives her what little of himself he can, the real him - his name, voluntarily on his own… and when she repeats it back you see him breaking into tears. It’s the first and also the last time she’s going to be able to call him by his real name, it’s the very last thing he gives and gets from her - the woman he loves, who loves him right back.

He never wronged her… but they were doomed from day one… he just didn’t know how much it would hurt at the end.

It’s only when he gets to be at the one place he thought would finally offer him some semblance of peace, comfort and happiness again - where he could love freely and be himself again that it hits him - that place is where it’s supposed to be… but he’s not supposed to be there anymore.

He’s not punishing himself… he’s being punished for doing the right thing for everyone… which shouldn’t be happening but it is… and that’s the tragedy. He is a good son, brother, husband, father. He is a patriot who has served his motherland… he isn’t wrong… he has been wronged by fate for doing the right thing by so many people…

His birth family has moved on, his wife and son will too perhaps. Yalina may always love him but she can’t allow herself to fall apart for the sake of their son so will pick herself up eventually too. His son maybe told he’s dead, he maybe told he’s alive and was an Indian agent and thus he could end up either as a memory for his son or someone he hates bitterly for being an enemy.

His existence has no place in the lives of those who matter to him… and he literally is irrelevant to the countless lives he’s helped save and avenge … as he’s unknown to them and shall remain so forever.

Originally posted by: catchm-ifucan

Ashwathamma cannot be done because I believe it was somewhat in the lines of Kalki...

But yeah the other stories can be explored...My personal favorite is Chandragupta Maurya, with Ranveer and Akshaye Khanna! It will be Epic!

We don’t know for certain what Ashwathamma is about yet, which is why it’s impossible to know whether or not it’s even dealing with the story of the Kalki avatar.

Kalki took the inspiration from our scriptures but they went with Sci-Fi route while dealing with the same; we don’t know what treatment Dhar had in mind at all.

Even if say the subject is same but Dhar deals with it per what’s in the Kalki Purana and Garuda Purana; not to mention Vishnu Purana by incorporating Mahabharata obviously in an Epic Drama format similar to Ramayana.. the whole thing would change despite same source of inspiration for the material and even characters.

If I am aware of this as a mere viewer, Dhar absolutely is.

But let’s say that he goes for the same genre as Kalki 2898 too; the casting, storyline, screenplay and execution matters. Even just being accurate to the texts wherein Bhagwan Kalki is born to Sumati and Vishnuyasha rather than whatever it is that Kamal Hassan is playing while DP plays a woman forced to be a surrogate/incubator against her will, it changes everything as the parents.