Mannat Har Khushi Paane Ki: Episode Discussion Thread - 39 - Page 125

Originally posted by: ChaoticTangles

Yes definitely...

If the burden of proof is on the one putting allegations... does that exonerate Vik in all his pre leap kaands???

When he alleged mannat called media? That she was trying to sabotage his restaurant and its reputation?

When he blamed Mannat for being a GD... for having an affair with his brother? For trusting Vish and believing RoTu killed his father???

Has he done something about it???

Mannat tried to reason with him on very same points.... did he listen????

If burden of proof is the only criteria then there have been countless incidences prior to leap where Vik has blamed Mannat ... inspite of her providing proofs.

He has not even looked at her proofs with an objective eye. So why not question him on that?

Should this even be a point of comparison when we all agree its not?

Originally posted by: Daman17

I understand your point, but logically, Mannat’s reaction was according to the situation. This was not a first time yuvi did something to dua and bunty, the Indore incident was serious , pushing a child onto the road goes far beyond normal mischief. When someone has previously shown that level of aggression, it is reasonable to consider that history while assessing a new incident. That is pattern recognition, not blind accusation. She did not declare Yuvi guilty. She never said, Yuvi did it, she stated that Bunty does not lie and referred to Yuvi’s past behaviour. There is a clear difference between raising a concern and delivering a verdict. The responsibility for investigation and judgment still lies with Vik as the judge. The public setting works both ways. Yes, it happened in front of others but Bunty’s credibility was also being questioned publicly. Staying silent would have meant allowing that doubt to stand despite prior evidence. Moreover, Mannat speaking up did not deny Yuvi a chance to defend himself. He could still explain his side. Her intervention only ensured that Bunty’s statement was taken seriously. When a child repeatedly shows harmful behaviour without remorse, adults must acknowledge it instead of immediately shielding him. Ignoring red flags in the name of giving another chance can normalise dangerous conduct. So from a logical standpoint, Mannat reacted based on prior experience, not emotion. She raised a concern, she did not pronounce punishment. The final decision was never in her hands to begin with. As I mentioned earlier, her trust in Bunty is not based on instinct alone. We have seen him openly call out his own mother’s wrongdoings in public. That strengthens her belief that he would not lie in such a situation. Also, if Vik’s judgment is being questioned, I don’t understand why Mannat is repeatedly brought into it. In this scenario, Vik is the judge and Bunty is the one hurt due to Yuvi. It would make more sense to analyse the scene from the perspectives shown on screen, including Vik’s decision-making, without dragging Mannat in it. We should be glad writers thought of adding little mercy that Vik thinking from 3 angle and taking a step back, decide to talk yuvi alone… Peace out just sharing what i feel🫶

Raising a concern shouldn't be in front of so many people.... that too regarding a child and that too without knowing other side.., what if people there start attacking yuvi, is mannat going to take responsibility for that,if people think bunty is lying then they wouldn't do anything but if people give attention to mannat's concern then they could get violent towards yuvi.. Sure mannat knows bunty won't lie.. But bunty is not God that he couldn't be misunderstanding the situation, all that could be a mere co incidence,that's why allowing a chance to other person to put their point of view is needed, mannat not is wrong in thinking that yuvi could do it considering yuvi's past actions, but that experience of her is not enough to raise a concern without hearing the other side... Standing up for bunty is different from indicating yuvi could have did it.. Mannat clearly indicated in front of everyone that yuvi tried to hurt dua and bunty in past and that yuvi could be involved this time too...

Well this was my pov, let's agree to disagree

Originally posted by: Moor278

If the burden of proof is on the one putting allegations... does that exonerate Vik in all his pre leap kaands???

When he alleged mannat called media? That she was trying to sabotage his restaurant and its reputation?

When he blamed Mannat for being a GD... for having an affair with his brother? For trusting Vish and believing RoTu killed his father???

Has he done something about it???

Mannat tried to reason with him on very same points.... did he listen????

If burden of proof is the only criteria then there have been countless incidences prior to leap where Vik has blamed Mannat ... inspite of her providing proofs.

He has not even looked at her proofs with an objective eye. So why not question him on that?

Should this even be a point of comparison when we all agree its not?

Obviously Vik is wrong.... but Vik being wrong doesn't make mannat right, na?

Originally posted by: ChaoticTangles

Obviously Vik is wrong.... but Vik being wrong doesn't make mannat right, na?

Mannat is 💯 right as per today's competition incident. She has the right to raise her voice.

Dua was targeted publically in Indore thanks to Vik's current gf. Here nothing of that sort happened bcs Mannat managed the situation. She neither blamed Yuvi directly nor she scolded him nor she disallowed him from saying anything...unlike Vikrant' she did not go on a rampage blasting him.

Also since the show started, till now we have seen both instances- Mannat directly putting allegations without any proof & with proof and on both cases Vikrant’s stance remains the same..

Its high time Mannat should stop giving any proofs to Vikrant. Let him deal with all these himself and put some effort in digging in further.

He runs the Mezbaani now, Mannat doesn't. So now for every situation he can't blame her.

There is a huge difference between Mannat and Vikrant, Mannat never takes things on the face value, always insists on digging deeper and makes sure she forms a judgement based on that person's past records. She falters but then she corrects her mistake on her own and doesnt repeat it again much. Vikrant on the other hand, believes too much on people's goodness to the point it looks illogical and dumb, esp when so many crimes happen around him.

Today also, Mannat first found it really shocking to know Yuvi did this, she again brought it upto Dk later that Yuvi a kid did this, but she understood Yuvi's pattern of aggression and backed Bunty up. She also knows Bunty can be naughty but wont put such huge allegation on someone for fun. Meanwhile we have Vikrant who knows Yuvi has anger issues, has pushed Bunty onto the road so that he can come under the car, created havoc in indore, hates Dua extremely since poster incident, was refusing the allegation and blaming Mannat for wrongly accusing.

If we notice, this is his pattern. Raat gayi baat gayi. Take Malla as an example, she has poisoned the kids, indirectly assaulted him, planned ons to trapped him, helped in Dadaji's murder and all this is vanished into the thin air just because she supported his birth truth. He did the same with Mannat. All her good deeds, all her track record till now of standing up for right thing and being right about saboots went into the toss because she supported Rotu. No introspection over the fact that the woman who always supports the right side, who never causes any harm, why will she suddenly support rotu? And Malla who has track record of crimes is supporting that woman?

Originally posted by: Kidult104

There is a huge difference between Mannat and Vikrant, Mannat never takes things on the face value, always insists on digging deeper and makes sure she forms a judgement based on that person's past records. She falters but then she corrects her mistake on her own and doesnt repeat it again much. Vikrant on the other hand, believes too much on people's goodness to the point it looks illogical and dumb, esp when so many crimes happen around him.

Today also, Mannat first found it really shocking to know Yuvi did this, she again brought it upto Dk later that Yuvi a kid did this, but she understood Yuvi's pattern of aggression and backed Bunty up. She also knows Bunty can be naughty but wont put such huge allegation on someone for fun. Meanwhile we have Vikrant who knows Yuvi has anger issues, has pushed Bunty onto the road so that he can come under the car, created havoc in indore, hates Dua extremely since poster incident, was refusing the allegation and blaming Mannat for wrongly accusing.

If we notice, this is his pattern. Raat gayi baat gayi. Take Malla as an example, she has poisoned the kids, indirectly assaulted him, planned ons to trapped him, helped in Dadaji's murder and all this is vanished into the thin air just because she supported his birth truth. He did the same with Mannat. All her good deeds, all her track record till now of standing up for right thing and being right about saboots went into the toss because she supported Rotu. No introspection over the fact that the woman who always supports the right side, who never causes any harm, why will she suddenly support rotu? And Malla who has track record of crimes is supporting that woman?

Going by today’s incident, Mannat is being forcefully put into the bracket of being 'Wrong' just to salvage Vikrant's character arc. Just because Vikrant's action/reaction is wrong doesn’t mean Mannat's action/reaction also has to be wrong. She can be right too.

And more so she has been right in most of the cases - with correct proofs...uske baad bhi kya hua everyone knows...so there is no point honestly in going with the same approach repeatedly were she is one who ends up at the receiving end..

Only once truth starts coming out we might then see a slight change in equation btw ManVik...

Originally posted by: Mona_HappyLife

Mannat is 💯 right as per today's competition incident. She has the right to raise her voice.

Dua was targeted publically in Indore thanks to Vik's current gf. Here nothing of that sort happened bcs Mannat managed the situation. She neither blamed Yuvi directly nor she scolded him nor she disallowed him from saying anything...unlike Vikrant' she did not go on a rampage blasting him.

Also since the show started, till now we have seen both instances- Mannat directly putting allegations without any proof & with proof and on both cases Vikrant’s stance remains the same..

Its high time Mannat should stop giving any proofs to Vikrant. Let him deal with all these himself and put some effort in digging in further.

He runs the Mezbaani now, Mannat doesn't. So now for every situation he can't blame her.

Why everything mannat does should be related to Vik.. How Vik being at fault makes mannat right?

If Vik is more wrong does it dilute mannat's mistake..?...How is she right in getting a child's past in front of everyone and indicate that yuvi could have done it , it's such a sensitive issue people could have gotten really violent... Mannat was definitely prejudiced in her approach, yuvi's past is enough to have a feeling he might have did it , but it's not enough to indicate that he did it in front of everyone that too before she could hear the scenario from yuvi's perspective.. If this is other normal scenario this level of caution is not required, but considering it's such sensitive issue that too in front of everyone, that to considering that it involves a child, she is definitely wrong in how she dealt with the issue.... But I understand she was scared for her daughter but that doesn't mean we shouldnt point out her mistake, na?...

Originally posted by: ChaoticTangles

Obviously Vik is wrong.... but Vik being wrong doesn't make mannat right, na?

Wasnt this the core point of the conversation?

Why do a comparison?

Infact I feel today both were justified in their stance based on the information they had and their own notions.

Originally posted by: ChaoticTangles

Why everything mannat does should be related to Vik.. How Vik being at fault makes mannat right?

If Vik is more wrong does it dilute mannat's mistake..?...How is she right in getting a child's past in front of everyone and indicate that yuvi could have done it , it's such a sensitive issue people could have gotten really violent... Mannat was definitely prejudiced in her approach, yuvi's past is enough to have a feeling he might have did it , but it's not enough to indicate that he did it in front of everyone that too before she could hear the scenario from yuvi's perspective.. If this is other normal scenario this level of caution is not required, but considering it's such sensitive issue that too in front of everyone, that to considering that it involves a child, she is definitely wrong in how she dealt with the issue.... But I understand she was scared for her daughter but that doesn't mean we shouldnt point out her mistake, na?...

People forget Mannat is a mother now. Any mother would have reacted the same way she has reacted.

What’s so abnormal about this ?

This is not anymore about whether Vikrant is right or Mannat is wrong..

Mezbani is under Vikrant so if any accident happens & if any parent is voicing concern then he should investigate even if its Mannat voicing out. Her daughter was there when this happened so she has full rights to protest.

Vikrant without blaming Bunty or cross questioning him, could have investigated the matter & not escalated the issue..He could have still got things done without looking from 'Mannat-being-wrong'lens just bcz he has a grudge against her now.

Like I dont get it..

Is Mannat supposed to do everything..

Keep an eye on all 24*7, cautiously take next steps without hurting anyone..

Did Vikrant for once think what Dua would feel when he himself was uttering nonsense about his parents..

When he has no sympathy or empathy towards handling the situations why Mannat is expected to behave nicely & cautiously 24*7 ?

She has been infact soft towards Yuvi even after knowing he is Vik’s son (half truth)

Sorry to say but at this point her character is being forcibly blamed just bcs Vikrant's action itself is not support worthy. This is not the way we see situations with equality when there has been no equality between them in terms of relationship in the first place..