Naagin 7: Episode Discussion Thread #2 - Page 74

Yes Parmeet is too funny and an enjoyable character. In fact I love this season more than other seasons because it has comedy

Ananta's voice is too oops weird and guttural when she screams

Originally posted by: SathyaT

Aryaman is that scientist son. The scientist who got killed by Suri's in the initial episodes. Aryaman searching regarding Changistan and he is against them making sense as his dad before leaving home he shared that he is going to save his country from intruders and might not return and whatever the situation be he should put country as first priority and all..

Just that makers suddenly showing Aryaman's awareness about Changistan is bit odd but otherwise the connection is there

It makes sense and also it doesn’t make sense at all… the Suris have the Pashas backing, hate India but they have done the most convoluted way to set up their lives in India, work hard, razor, so-called upstanding citizen. They’ve actually raised him with love and respect for the matter, and they’ve worked very hard to set up a news channel. The minister worked very hard in the political scene and being a Bollywood hero is no joke…. So even though they’ve had all this underhanded ways, they chose the most straightforward way to set up their lives in India and now they’re going to go against all of that to fulfil their mission. This would make Ranveer Singhs character in Dhurandhar weep in joy. 😂😂😂

Originally posted by: Surilikoyal

Yes Aryamann being scientist son makes sense.Otherwise there is no story from Aryamann side. he just another drunkard who is stuck in his past and doesn't want to come out of it.Dude you have a life .You just cannot be around your ex all your life.Instead of confronting Radhika he just goes into devdas mode after seeing her .Yes makers have now put efforts and improvement in showcasing his character.He is the CEO of the channel.Good that Aryamann is taking responsibility atleast now

Problem is, they failed to do build up on that . Suddenly being all patriotic and concerned about country and hating Chingistan look like desperate attempts to add halo to the character or last ditch attempt to revive him as ML .

Where was he when country was under attack during Maha Kumbh ? Why didn't he atleast go there to investigate like that female journalist did ?

From the beginning we're shown no hints to make us believe his concern and devotion for country. He seemed very much like a typical media tycoon after ratings only.

Exactly.. They are showing this side of him all of a sudden that's the problem.. He is the lead and everyone knows he would be positive.. so they could have shown bits of he is up to something from the beginning

And still they are dependent on some creatures to destroy the country

Literally they should tone down his Radhika jaap going forward.. Also he should start move on before he knows anything about Radhika's motives.. They should not show like Radhika is negative so he moved on.. It weakens more

Originally posted by: SathyaT

Exactly.. They are showing this side of him all of a sudden that's the problem.. He is the lead and everyone knows he would be positive.. so they could have shown bits of he is up to something from the beginning

See, this is all fictional anyways. So keheno ko to ye log kuch bhi dikha sakte hai ! At any point of the story, they can show Aryaman is a naag / naag king / naag God / Anant naag himself / Lord Vishnu's avatar . Who's stopping them ? But will that make sense or will we roll our eyes so hard in disbelief that it'll go to the back of our sockets ??

A show needs build up / context / preface so that it all looks in place and not deus ex machina .

Erul is fantastic so far, he's flamboyant and ott but but somehow it feels like beneath his mask of flamboyance he's actually quite sharp and always has multiple plans and he doesn't share his plans with these Suri fools all at a time , he knows he can't trust or rely on them completely. He shows these flecks of cruelty that is almost dispassionate or detached and slightly amused. If written well , he can be one of the best villain of the naagin franchise after Yamini.

Moreover, he's a clear reason for what he's doing, for his country and that's not really so different from what Ananta is doing is it ? His methods are wrong but his intentions make sense as per his character.

Originally posted by: salta

Yes but we're not talking about the entire scenario. It's just 'saving the girl' part. Otherwise we can include how he stalks a married woman despite her breaking things off. If we talk about other girls, we can talk about how he roofied ahana, took vids while she's drunk and unconscious and then used that to s!utshame her.

We're simply on the saving the girl whom he hit. That's not a really superwonderful thing. It's decency 101.

A coin has two sides-not just only one side-Har Sikke ke Do Pahlu hote hain.When Ahana had arrived at the dating venue thinking it was arranged by Vikram seeing Arya in place of Vikram she deduced correctly that Aryamaan had sent that SMS from Vikram's cellphone.

If she wanted she could have left from there why did she chose to stay back and not only stay back under Arya's manipulation in her overconfidence she chose to continue the date with him.Any sensible woman in her place would have immediately left the venue.

What Arya did drugging the whisky was calculative yet condemnable however Ahana knew that even her dating moments were being recorded on Arya's cellphone yet she chose to stay back and enjoy her date there.Didn't she stay there bcoz of her strong feelings for Arya? Ahana knew that she was enjoying her date with her sworn enemy right before Arya was proved innocent.

He sedated her to extract her confession and the motive behind her intentions of marrying Vikram.He never crossed the line like Ravish with regards to Ahana's dignity.

Had Bharni not used that AI trick Ahana's Naagin secret would have got exposed in front of the Suris then yet Ahana in her overconfidence under-estimated Arya's curosity and suspicious nature.Her secret including the Naag-Mandir was discovered by Arya and she had to use some memory-loss magic to wipe out that significant part of Arya's memory.

And yeah let's include Vikram here too-He was engaged in a relationship with Pinky for around 1 year before choosing Ahana.So why didn't Vikram refuse Pinky then? Why was he in a relationship with Pinky for around 1 year?

Now let's tackle the stalking allegation-Yes stalking a married woman is wrong and Arya's personality does not come out with flying colors here.But its not that he has gone near the Kothari premises only once he was going there for around 5 years and yet neither Radhika nor her mate Purab ever chose to take action regarding the same.Why was Arya not handed over to the cops?

I have both positive and negative theories about her, so I can't say for sure. But when she rejected him she's in dullhan joda, and it looked like she did this last minute. If she's just looking for information and using him then there's no need to get ready or anything.

Yes I agree on this point however Radhika not only knew that Ayra was obsessed about her but stalking her too that too for 5 years yet the same Radhika chooses to return back into the same stalker's media company why? Why did she agree on the Power of Attorney proposal of Vikram? Just what exactly was her agenda?

She agrees on a man's proposal and suddenly she rejects him on her wedding day and conducts not even a real but a fake wedding with an other man why?

And all of them brought loyalty and absolute devotion with that support. Arya doesn't bring that to table. It's a disrespect to those ML, and their love stories.

Agreed but unlike the N7 which is a rating topper N4 and N6 sank without a trace.Arya's character cannot be retconned now what can be done is add some subtle characteristics like for example his mission of uncovering the identity of those enemy spies.

Both N4 and N6 had cynical ML's like Aryamaan.

I'm not sure about that. But until now ONLY Bharani has been by Ahana side, even when ahana isn't in her senses. Her mom died trying to protect the adoptive family and it's worthwhile to remember that purvi lost her family, and bharani did too. Same day protecting naagraani family. There's a curse or something which forbids naagins to mingle with humans and apparently their Kula already has something on them. It's understandable that she would try her best to stop Aryan ahana happening.

There are portraits of 6 Naagins present in that Naag-Mandir.Do you mean to say that neither Bharni nor Uttara knew nothing about the earlier 6 Naagins and their past stories before Ananta?

In N3 Bela never lost her powers despite her intimacy with Maahir.Only Shivanya and Shivangi lost their powers due to intimacy with their mates Ritik and Rocky.

So Bharni's curse argument is just a weak defense regarding stabbing Ahana behind her back.

Honestly, bharani turning on ananta would make sense, even now. She was waiting for their naagrani, someone who would take up the throne, and the responsibilities which come with it. Ananta has taken the powers and responsibilities but when it comes to her duty towards nagaloka, we haven't seen anything. In fact she risked her life for Aryaman when she didn't even know the truth of bharani. She's already delusional in love. IF in future, ananta risks naaglok for her love I'm on bharani side, she can and should rebel. Bharani is a loyal commander of the naagraani and naaglok. If Ananta can't have any respect for that then she doesn't deserve the powers either.

Neither Ahana nor the earlier Naagins before her were so much delusional that they would put the entire existence of their Naaglok at stake.

Ahana provided the fake Naagmani to those criminal Suris bcoz she knew that if those intruders got their hands on the real Naagmani then not only the entire country but the whole planet's existence itself could be at stake forget the Naaglok for a moment.

The earlier Naagins whether Its Shivanya Shivangi or Bela put their lives on the line for the protection of Naagmani so in turn when they were saving Naagmani they were also saving the Naaglok also indirectly bcoz Naagmani is the power source for all the Naag-Naagins in Naaglok.

Shvanya and Shivangi at one time had only used the Naagmani to heal/restore the lives of their mate Ritik and Rocky.So were those two Naagins delusional too?

Their allies like Shesha Vish and Mehak turned their backs on them.

They already showed him that he's good at his job. Initial episodes were all about establishing that he's a rich tycoon in his industry, and he's an alcoholic. Radhika bhakti was latter addition. He just thinks that ahana wanted Vikram and he interfered because of pinky. He has no idea about her connection to Suris. And ahana aryaman together don't make much sense. He's more important things on his hand, now radhika is here. If he's that obsessed when she's far now she's in the office it's obvious where his focus will be. And this is precisely why him doing anything is futile. We're too deep in the story and have no emotional connection with Arya ahana story in a positive way, in fact most of us see it as a burden, and are dreading it. This far in the story, you should have outlined your characters and plots, we know ahana and her goals and empathise with them, we know Suris and hate them, we know even erul... Arhana we have nothing except dread, it's like an ugly forced arranged marriage.

Yeah I am in sync with your POV here with some minor disagreements-

a- Radhika bhakti was latter addition-Yeah it might have been a later addition but hints were already given in the initial episodes why did Arya hated weddings and functions.Pinky herself informed Ahana that a girl had dumped his brother right on the wedding day itself only Radhika's name was never mentioned during that time.

b- Yeah Arya doesn't know regarding Ahana's enmity with the Suris but Ahana in her over-confidence during their past date has given enough hints to him that she had come into the Suri Mansion with a personal motive so Arya's suspicion on her wasn't entirely wrong.She used the word Secret during their date.

c- As far as Arya's Radhika-Bhakti is concerned yup we are all tired of the same however it cannot be denied that he wanted to buyout Vikram's 25% share to remove the Kotharis from his company. And yes despite his obsession Aryamaan never invited Radhika into his life-it was she who chose to enter his company after 5 years.

d- we have nothing except dread, it's like an ugly forced arranged marriage-

Give me a break here-Forced Wedding huh?

When the wedding promo was showed I had thought that it was just like N6 with the usual groom switch trick but here the scenario was a bit different-

Ahana herself wanted to get married to her so called love betrayer-Aryamaan isn't it? That's why she purposely always chose to get close herself to Aryamaan flirting with him and then acting innocent in Vikram's eyes.She portrayed Aryamaan as some stalker who was interested in her best friend's girlfriend.

Bharni herself took Pinky's disguise to further provoke Aryamaan to use that groom switch wedding trick.

So both Aryamaan and Ahana had got married to each other with different cross-purposes in mind.It was neither a forced wedding nor a deceptive wedding from Arya's side.

Ahana knew perfectly well that Aryamaan would take that drastic step of marrying her just for his sibling Pinky so what ugly forced arranged marriage is being talked about or mentioned here?

e-Aryamaan's character is not like the earlier green-flagged ML characters like Veer or Maahir before him that was made clear in the N7 launch event itself where Ahana accused Aryamaan of betraying her in love and Aryamaan was trying to prove his innocence.

In the launch event he promised to aid her in her future battles against the Suri intruders.

So that's what's happening right now in the N7 serial.I don't agree with many traits of Aryamaan's character but to expect him right now to suddenly do a 360 degree turn and start worshipping Ahana like his queen also doesn't sound logical.

Aryamaan is toxic and impulsive having a dumb perception regarding woman's betrayal.He was gullible enough who got played big time by Radhika.

Radhika played with Arya's emotions like some toy object.

So Radhika shares the blame here for turning Aryamaan into the toxic impulsive cynical ML that he's today.When she could have clearly refused Arya's love proposal she said Yes and entered into a relationship with him.

Originally posted by: Surilikoyal

Yes Aryamann being scientist son makes sense.Otherwise there is no story from Aryamann side. he just another drunkard who is stuck in his past and doesn't want to come out of it.Dude you have a life .You just cannot be around your ex all your life.Instead of confronting Radhika he just goes into devdas mode after seeing her .Yes makers have now put efforts and improvement in showcasing his character.He is the CEO of the channel.Good that Aryamann is taking responsibility atleast now

Yeah I agree with your POV that the CV's are putting some good efforts in improving Arya's character but they could have done this earlier too.What is needed now is that instead of going into Devdas or Radhika-Bhakti mode he could put all his efforts in tracking down the identities of those Suri intruders and perhaps use all the information he's getting regarding future terror attacks like the upcoming Anantnag one to hand this over to the proper authorities so that such attacks can be prevented right before they are executed.

I have seen Arya's fight only with his ex-buddy Vikram.I don't know whether he would be able to fight those potential terrorists who are planning further attacks.Raghuveer in N6 never needed Naagin's help in fighting the hoodlums so if Arya's able to take down those attackers single-handedly then perhaps it might somewhat enhance his bland character.

Ahana and Bharni are anyway there to slay those attackers moot point is whether Aryamaan would enter the scene or just drown himself again in alcohol after seeing Radhika.

Veer and Maahir were not only loyal mates but capable fighters too.Hope to see some action from Arya's side.