Seher Hone ko Hai: Episode Discussion thread 1 - Page 50

Originally posted by: jhalak7

No. Shariah law is same all over the world for all Muslims.

Guardian's permission is not compulsory in Islam as Islam has no kanyadan. If parents permit, fine. Or else it is man and woman who decides.

In this case the entire wedding is illegal. The girl was threatened, her mother was kidnapped and thus forced. Mahid openly declares that he hates underage Shaadi, still it was kept secret from him. That means he too can apply for a talaq or nullification of marriage. In some cases groom can even get a refund ( denmohar . He doesn't have to give that).

In general. I never said the bride choice is not important.

And yes here the bride was forced. But from the last few episodes she started to comply with it.

But the guardian permission is requirement in Islamic marriage. There is even hadith about it.

Originally posted by: jhalak7

Registration, wovi written registration is compulsory in Islam

It is not.

Originally posted by: jhalak7

Community is not important than bride and groom in Islam. Allah ke naam pe Shaadi hota hai. Aur Allah ke samne jhoot, farzi... Major crime.

What I ment is this local community can hold the groom accountable if he want to retract from his responsibility in the marriage. Because the marriage was made public per the Muslims laws. Or else he will need to leave that community.

Originally posted by: jhalak7

Dadajaan is no ordinary man. He is mufti, he leads, rules, judge. What he did...is instigating a father to make a fake birth certificate of his daughter...is a sin in Islam ( lie, hiding truth from kazi and groom+ forcing the bride to be in an age which she is not).

+ It was he who knew this, still made the Kazi register an illegal marriage certificate wovi Allah ke naam se...( Bismillah likha hota hai Bhai...big sin)...his mufti post can be snatched.

Govt bole toh jail, financial punishment all can happen. Both Shariah law and Govt law will punish him.

Now Seher or Mahid has it in their hand.

Sp Mahid Jo gala phad phad ke fekta hai naa nyay ka avatar etc...aab dekhte hai keya katega Banda jab uska dadajee sabse bara gunehgaar.

I didn't say he did not sin or made the wrong decision. I said made it for his grandchild future.

If once seher told him she doesn't want to merry. Or she want to become a doctor. He wouldn't have done this forgery.

Originally posted by: Darkxmatter

In general. I never said the bride choice is not important.

And yes here the bride was forced. But from the last few episodes she started to comply with it.

But the guardian permission is requirement in Islamic marriage. There is even hadith about it.

It is not.

What I ment is this local community can hold the groom accountable if he want to retract from his responsibility in the marriage. Because the marriage was made public per the Muslims laws. Or else he will need to leave that community.

@ green...it says children should take permission from their parents and parents should give too. Parents can't force . They have no authority. Mia, Biwi are the final decision maker.

@ red... I think this is out of topic. But if you want to know. ...husband has to pay all the bills even if they divorce by Shariah and Indian law. Community se Bahar kiyun sidha jail Jayega if not.

Originally posted by: Darkxmatter

I didn't say he did not sin or made the wrong decision. I said made it for his grandchild future.

If once seher told him she doesn't want to merry. Or she want to become a doctor. He wouldn't have done this forgery.

Mufti did this forgery not first time but previously too. In one episode he was about to force an underaged girl( younger than Seher) to marry against her will. Which Mahid stopped. This one crime came in front of Mahid..but it looks like the old man and his son did worse crime behind Mahid's back. They are not good people. Mahid knows nothing. He just knows his mom was evil. May be they forced Mahid's mom to commit suicide too or may be killed her. Because the way she jumped off doesn't look normal. Either drugged, pushed or abused her so much that she had a nervous break down.

Originally posted by: jhalak7

You haven't seen the other episodes? Mufti is against woman education. He and his son insulted and abused a lady because she wanted to work. Seher saw that ..how that lady was humiliated and insulted. Mufti's demand was simple...he wanted a girl who only read Quran...no math too. That is why Seher hid that math she did about milk in that paper. And this mufti will allow Seher to study, work as Doctor?

Mufti did this forgery not first time but previously too. In one episode he was about to force an underaged girl( younger than Seher) to marry against her will. Which Mahid stopped. This one crime came in front of Mahid..but it looks like the old man and his son did worse crime behind Mahid's back. They are not good people. Mahid knows nothing. He just knows his mom was evil. May be they forced Mahid's mom to commit suicide too or may be killed her. Because the way she jumped off doesn't look normal. Either drugged, pushed or abused her so much that she had a nervous break down.

They abused the woman cos she wants to work in a bank. In Islam giving interest or taking interest is haraam. It's considered as kabirah gunah.

Originally posted by: awida

21 is too much. I think the right age should be 18. Coz in our culture we aren't allowed to have a relationship with guys unless we are married. And rising marriage age to 21 may cause repression and other psychological problems.

Also biologically and the way the world is evolving 17-18 is too young to have a baby there are more unexpected complications too.

Originally posted by: mushat

They abused the woman cos she wants to work in a bank. In Islam giving interest or taking interest is haraam. It's considered as kabirah gunah.

But other banks depends . Some Alem says yes, some don't.

In here Mufti is against all jobs for woman. He is against woman education too. In first promo he was advicing Parvez and Parvez was getting scared every time.

Originally posted by: JustRandomGirl

Honestly the age to get married is one’s personal choice. I am a Muslim too and my personal opinion is marrying at 16 is too young. Infact, I think 21 should be the minimum age, 18 can accept with difficulty but 16 is too less. I know lots of girls who got married off at 16 and I also know lots of girls who married at 24-25 and both of them have their own struggles. But at 16 the girl is just teen and marriage is a huge lifelong responsibility I dont see anything wrong in starting this life a bit later.

Also biologically and the way the world is evolving 17-18 is too young to have a baby there are more unexpected complications too.

PS: India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc also considers under strict and unavoidable circumstances ( the girl got pregnant, had a child etc). But normally no.

Originally posted by: jhalak7

Written registration is absolutely compulsory in Islam.

There is no hadith about it. If so give me the source. In the time of prophet people bearly wrote the wiran and some hadith. Marriage funds did not include writing. Which means it is community convention. No sharia law.

Originally posted by: jhalak7

@ green...it says children should take permission from their parents and parents should give too. Parents can't force . They have no authority. Mia, Biwi are the final decision maker.

Yes parents can not force. But girls can't scape and marry without there guardian permission. Otherwise the marriage is null and any intimate relationship will be counted as zina. There is hadith about this.

Originally posted by: jhalak7

A woman's body becomes mature enough to carry a child at the minimum age of 18. This is the reason govt made the law. But in many countries marriage law is flexible( even 13). But this is decided by the govt. In India it is 18. As far as I know in most of the educated Islamic countries also 18( Talibans 16, UK, Japan, Philippines etc).

PS: India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc also considers under strict and unavoidable circumstances ( the girl got pregnant, had a child etc). But normally no.

In usa the age is 13 some states is 12 🤣. It seems they don't know about the biology stuff about woman growth 🤣