Mannat Har Khushi Paane Ki: Episode Discussion Thread - 38 - Page 102

Originally posted by: Moor278

Ronnie did not know Neetu was drugging him. It was a surprise for him as well as far as I remember...

And I have been stressing this point since many days which people have not understood yet.

Mannat did not actually lie about the drugs. The story till panmasala wedding was that Mannat got to know about the drugs, was outed by Keerat, exposed Neetu, left the house... came back changed the meds and threw the original drugs out.

But...

As per the changed narrative to whitewash Neetu ... as told to Vishakha by Mannat on skit day.... none of the above happened. Neetu stopped giving the drugs when she saw the ill effect. Mannat had no role in it.

By this new narrative... Mannat has actually not lied about the drugs 😕. It was something she didnt know.

No, mannat is not wrong in this scenario, she already told vik about it and after that rotu changed , so she gave another chance..

But i am speaking about writers not addressing such serious issues, especially regarding this drugging... Vik was majorly hurt because of this fact.... there is this dialogue too where vik emotionally says to neetu "Ma, boldo aapne mujhe jaan leva dawai nahi di, bas ek baar boldo mein sare baate jooth samaj ke, sirf aap pe viswas karunga"..... This thing that they choose to risk his life hurt him the most...imagine knowing one's parents doesn't bother if their child is dead or alive

And also ronnie doesn't have even little bit of guilt for what they did with vik.. and praises dk, yes dk is good in taking care of them and he deserves their praises, but why compare him with vik... neetu was and is wrong but atleast she has little bit guilt of what they did... but ronnie doesn't have anything, he now know about neetu drugging vik, how can ronnie not understand what vik might have felt then... yes him having to beg vik or losing property might be hard on him.. but what about what they put vik through....?

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Still no analysis but just wanted to comment on your post

Chaotic, this is what I have been writing for pages and pages

Vikrant's mistake is CA Mannat & Mannat's lying, supporting RoTu instead of Vikrant, especially when he got all his memories back and found out about drugging.

Watching Indore gang act holier than though and pushing everything on Vikrant makes it so exhilarating to watch the episodes

For me Mannat is wrong aswell, she should have stood by Vikrant when his memories were back which was already traumatizing and he couldn't understand why Mannat would support criminals over him.

Originally posted by: Moor278

Daman... one more character which needs analysis is Ronnie.

He has bypassed the scrutiny so far but he too has flipped.

Ronnie was happy when Dua met Vik and he took it as Babaji ka sign.

But post Vik Ronnie faceoff in police station Ro is also on 'I hate Vikrant' train

Its possible because he tried his best to convince Vik.. (thanks to the FBs shown in the episode). I remember Cool saying it was very distressing to watch 😭 Gagan putting his pagdi on Viks feet was the BTS where I quit 😢

And like the pool side convo between her and Mannat .. Neetu did not have retorts for Ronnie reminding her of Viks errors. 🙄

Ro did praise DK today... for all that he did. Just what some of us had imagined why Mannat looks up to DK and feels indebted to him.

But its also surprising that Ro doesn't want Neetu to meet Vik even though she is on death bed and Ro knows all she needs is some Vitamin V. Weird 🤔

X was ranting ki Mannat looked confused... how??? She asked for Dua to not be told about Vik... there was nothing against Vik per se today. Khair vo to X wale jaane.

Anyway... Ro also did not protest when Mannat asked him to add DKs name on birth certificate... I expected some protest... even milder didnt happen... I wonder what they are planning to imply???

Like Kidult had pointed out long back... Neetu must not have been in her senses to see what her family went through and Ro was the only one who saw Mannats trouble. Makes sense he supports her wholeheartedly... yet some things are not sitting right.

Guddi Mannat bond seems to have improved a lot. Guddi ko dekh ke Harneet paaji ki yaad aa gai aaj. 🥺

Moor, i guess ronnie has become more of Mannat's father and dua's grandfather post leap. He knows Neetu and Mannat has taken the most damage from Vikrant. Neetu he cant do much so he stepped up for Mannat and to her extension, Dua. He has seen Mannat and Vikrant struggling with their birth secrets so he wants to give Dua stable childhood. He also knows Dk for 7 years now, he knows the guy is trusty and has stood by them esp Mannat strongly. He neither Mannat have replaced Vikrant with dk, but he has seen Dk stepping up to take care of Vikrant's duties. In all, ronnie has also become protective of his little unit.

About him and Vikrant, him infact everyone had soft corner about Vikrant post leap. Then what changed? The ice incident. Mannat was already pissed off due to Vikrant's behaviour with Dua in Mumbai but that ice incident seales the deal for both Mannat and ronnie. Vikrant proved Mannat's fears right by coming across as destroyer and ronnie also saw the same Vikrant which they all left 7 years back, egoistic, blinded, impulsive, rage filled. Him demanding Mannat's arrest was same as Neetu's arrest for Ronnie. His trauma got triggered and now he also thinks Vikrant will behave harshly with Neetu. Thats why he also wants to protect his family, esp mannat and dua from Vikrant's wrath.

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Still no analysis but just wanted to comment on your post

Chaotic, this is what I have been writing for pages and pages

Vikrant's mistake is CA Mannat & Mannat's lying, supporting RoTu instead of Vikrant, especially when he got all his memories back and found out about drugging.

Watching Indore gang act holier than though and pushing everything on Vikrant makes it so exhilarating to watch the episodes

For me Mannat is wrong aswell, she should have stood by Vikrant when his memories were back which was already traumatizing and he couldn't understand why Mannat would support criminals over him.

Honestly RD... I have no issues with character pov's as such because I feel all of the characters knows where they went wrong and also understands vik's anger but they majorly have issues with how vik rejected the baby and sent divorce papers to mannat... But this is the point vik didn't do any of this.. this is where writing matters, every character is right from their pov but what about the fact that vik didn't do anything that they are angry with vik... shouldn't they show vik's pov here..?

Originally posted by: ChaoticTangles

Honestly RD... I have no issues with character pov's as such because I feel all of the characters knows where they went wrong and also understands vik's anger but they majorly have issues with how vik rejected the baby and sent divorce papers to mannat... But this is the point vik didn't do any of this.. this is where writing matters, ever character is right from their pov but what about the fact that vik didn't do anything that they are angry with vik... shouldn't they show vik's pov here..?

Bold black - We are waiting for more than a month for this

red - even Vikrant had a dialogue (thank God writers wrote something for him ) I know what I did was wrong, wonder if they ever show this for Indore gang

People might make fun of Mannat DK's chai sessions but I guess indirectly they are symbolizing it as their thing for past 7 years. They just chit chat or unwind over those sessions and these talks have become a habit for them both. Mannat has mentioned that she likes the tea made by DK. This is a symbolism of their bond. The comfort and domesticity they share. Vikrant has to break this when they will move to Mumbai and has to regain his place into Mannat's world as her comfort and her safe space. I'm not saying she has replaced Vikrant with Dk but she has found a steady support which should have been Vikrant's place. Now in Mumbai, Vikrant has to fight for it. I wont be surprised if Dk starts getting little insecure as this has been their routine and Mannat not being there might scare him a little.

Originally posted by: ChaoticTangles

I started clearly watching the shaadi episodes... And now have different perspective about rotu-vik dynamics... Now watching the episodes with bit more depth made have different perspective..

I still hold the same perspective regarding manvik that vik is the one who is majorly wrong, despite mannat being wrong in hiding the truth she did everything possible to rectify her mistakes and vik was justifiable in his anger but he was completely wrong in questioning mannat's loyalty... So vik is the one who has to do major work regarding manvik...

But in case of rotu I can't believe they are whitewashing rotu to this extent... Neetu was responsible for vik's dad's death, ronnie tried to hide it with money , child trafficked vik... And for vik to give a chance to them by thinking about the love they gave him all these years, it's difficult to believe it that they ever loved him... Because he got to know about neetu drugging him with life threatening drugs and ronnie staying silent on that matter.. Which loving parents will choose their child being with them over their child loosing their life.... It's not like neetu did it in heat of the situation or once or twice... She intentionally, willingly gave him drugs and even after seeing the effects it has vik she still intended to continue it... Maybe rotu loved him to certain extent but more than love they literally abused him to fulfill the emptiness of their lost child...

And makers are trying to brush all this abuse under the carpet...and I can't think of one drug that can stop people from getting their memories back but any drug that could have memory altering effect could damage brain to dangerous effect... People could slip to severe mental illness and even stroke... And doctor informed about these to neetu and still she went on to drug him...

Instead of addressing this, they are making vik wrong in rotu's case... Vik is definitely wrong in mannat's case... But in case of rotu, rotu are the one who are majorly wrong and yes it's seems little insensitive of vik to put neetu in jail, take property from rotu but from vik's pov they are people who harmed his biological family and used him... so to protect his mother he was doing it... and vik would have definitely gotten neetu out of jail and returned ronnie property after few days.. And if it's for few days then rotu definitely deserved this punishment but even before vik could act to make amends with them destiny played it's game and they were seperated, and we are yet to see vik's past as to whether he tried to search for them or not......

But yes I definitely dont like, how they are making this entire thing on vik in case of rotu...

Bang on👏👏👏👏👏.

You just said what we were saying regarding RoTu. TBH I was never convinced with the way they WW RoTu and on top of that they have the audacity to blame him.

Mannat’s anger is at least justified though she also lied but she did it for them because they EB her😡.

She wanted them to tell this truth to Vikrant but only because of their EB and fear she gave in despite knowing truth about Vish😢.

And yes regarding Mannat Vikrant is definitely wrong the way he behaved with her. It’s just I want Mannat also to realise that she was also wrong to support RoTu. Vikrant’s anger towards RoTu is also really justified because the way they behaved with him. Specially Neetu giving him those harmful drugs despite knowing very well the effects it had on his health 😭. Still she didn’t stop but just to WW her they completely change the narrative. And even Ronny also didn’t say anything regarding that to Neetu.

What’s more irritating that these people don’t understand or realise their share of mistakes in whatever happened. But conveniently putting all the blame on Vikrant. Understandable that his share of mistakes is bigger but that doesn’t mean these people’s fault can be brushed under the carpet.

If he did wrong then these people are also responsible for the catastrophe in their lives.

Originally posted by: truptishree

If he did wrong then these people are also responsible for the catastrophe in their lives.

Here's a funny analogy for catastrophe which happened pre-leap ( excluding the Vikrant CA part since this should have never ever happened)

"You cant lite a house on fire, then try to save the house by pouring water and when everything is burnt down, you can't blame the house for burning down"