Mannat Har Khushi Paane Ki: Episode Discussion Thread - 38 - Page 71

Not one more chai pe charcha, Gawwdd.....

Originally posted by: FUITV

I don't think DK commited any crimes, wwe can't equate him with Vikrant who is the one who was the number one person to mannat and still is, so the expectation from Vikrant the understanding, a Lil bit of trust would have gone a long way.

Vikrants anger and disbelief wrt to mannat and blind trust to Vishaka /malla/ yashika, is what my problem lies with. With the Vikrant they are showing with this writing.

Like moor said in multiple multiple posts , the intent is what matters.

The unreasonable hate towards him vs the multiple excuses for Vikrant is what I was trying to address. Both these characters are not perfect, DKs flaws are much more humane than what they are making Vikrant do

I react based on what they show on screen not assumptions on how dk will react in future, etc they are just fictional. If they turn him in grey i will bash dk as well because that's how they have written him. So far these 7 years he has supported the family, with no ill intentions and he didn't have to. Hardly they show a nice character in itv why to diss that character just cos the writing for Vikrant is unpalatable.

Bold: Really??, dk didn't do a crime by abusing his uniform multiple times, getting out ARS who is hardcore criminal out of jail just for his brother ,it is not a crime???

Pink: Again subconsciously are we ignoring the impact of Dk's mistakes just because it's not effecting the FL... ???..because if we take mannat away from the picture and compare both dk and Vik... Then dk's actions had far more dangerous consequences than vikrant's... Vik did hurt his loved ones but dk's actions of letting ars out lead to dadi's death, sruti's death, dk's decision of not arresting vish made lives of entire saluja mansion hell, If we are ignoring this mistakes of dk saying he didn't intend bad and just did all this in emotions to get back his brother.. Then why not give Vik same bod because his intentions were also not bad..

Red: Yes, this is what I am saying Vik is gullible.. But wasn't dk too gullible

Blue: sure intent is what matters, that's why I feel dk is not a bad person, he deserves chance to make amends... then why not Vik.. Are vik's intentions wrong? Did he actually intend to oust mannat/rotu or did it in anger.. Even doing in anger is wrong but just like how dk in his selfishness did mistakes, Vik too did mistakes in anger , then if dk's mistakes can be overlooked because of his intentions then why not vik's..

Green: I can say for myself I don't hate Dk, I feel he is a good man with his flaws..its just that making dk look like some far better person than Vik is not sitting well with be because both did mistakes and actually as I said above the repercussions of mistakes dk made are far more than what Vik did..

Violet: yes dk is selfless in supporting dua&co, then what about vik's selflessness in supporting yuvi...?.. Should we magnify dk's selflessness because he is supporting FL's daughter and ignore vik's support to yuvi because he is side characters son..??..... Writing for vik is unpalatable, yes..but the same is true for dk's writing too... Did they show him feel guilty for what he did, Vik is constantly being called out for his mistakes by all characters and rightfully so... But can we see dk getting called out for his mistakes..? , instead we are presented as he is some flawless person... I definitely understand mannat's praises for him from her pov.... But what about writers shouldn't they show through one character or other about his mistakes, why are his mistakes been thrown under the carpet.. How is this good writing??..

I don't want Vik to be absolved of his mistakes easily, he needs to repent and redeem a lot... And in same way I don't think writers are doing well with dk's character by throwing his mistakes/crimes/flaws under the carpet..

Originally posted by: Moor278

I just saw the BTS where Indore people decide to go to Mumbai for Neetu's treatment...

Mukta is sneaky and we might see more of crossover episodes...

the hospital they are going to is Tandon ka hospital

Obviously she will use Mannat show. So viewers will watch it. TBH I am not convinced with the storyline of that show or actors. Did you see these actors earlier work? I am completely clueless about them except ML. At least have seen his some of work in one of Rangu shows. It was very old show . I just watched 3-4 episodes and stopped watching 🤪

Noting against anyone I genuinely want to know....Just one question for people... Take mannat out from picture and think neutrally... this way we can think unbiasedly

A person who made mistakes in anger which lead to hurting his loved ones or A police officer who abuses his power multiple times, let out a criminal for his selfish reasons which led to death of multiple people...?

From my pov if both their intentions are not wrong and did mistakes in emotions, then both deserves another chance if they redeem.... And I would think both are good people with few flaws...

Fair point both of you... and I agree with both in parts...

Will just add a small detail.... DK is not aware how he was played by Aish... for all the characters Aish is dead... Malla and Vish are not capable enough to pull off a stunt of that magnitude and they werent.... they were the pawns... brains was Aish who no one anticipates because she is dead for them as of today.... even now vish malla are not doing anything... just freeloaders...

I suppose DK will realise how wrong he was in trusting all of the witches including his mom when he finds out Aish faked her death and used him.

But the way he has been constantly saying I will die for Dua and his recent confession about Mannat... I doubt if he will see that day.... maybe he will but wont be able to reveal to others ...

No idea Trupti... have never watched anything of them

Originally posted by: Moor278

Fair point both of you... and I agree with both in parts...

Will just add a small detail.... DK is not aware how he was played by Aish... for all the characters Aish is dead... Malla and Vish are not capable enough to pull off a stunt of that magnitude and they werent.... they were the pawns... brains was Aish who no one anticipates because she is dead for them as of today.... even now vish malla are not doing anything... just freeloaders...

I suppose DK will realise how wrong he was in trusting all of the witches including his mom when he finds out Aish faked her death and used him.

But the way he has been constantly saying I will die for Dua and his recent confession about Mannat... I doubt if he will see that day.... maybe he will but wont be able to reveal to others ...

Bold: This .....Exactly ......i think most of us have issues with Vik as to how he becomes so gullible... But Dk too is the same....

If we look at it both dk and Vik did mistakes with heavy consequences but dont realise it yet.... that's why I don't get harsh criticism for either Vik or dk.. I don't get why we should consider Vik better than dk, or dk better than Vik....

From my pov both are good/bad in their own way.. In fact I know most of us feel the same....

From mannat's pov she is right to praise dk over Vik because mannat doesn't know about dk's mistakes and feels Vik rejected her pregnancy and child ... but problem is with writer they are unnecessarily uplifting dk as some flawless person.... I myself even now don't have issues with dk as character but definitely have issues with writing...

Initially I didnt bother much about dk's writing because it felt balanced... But now I don't know for what reason they are unnecessarily portraying dk as mahaan and Vik as villian.. Both of which are not true.. Both dk and Vik are good people with flaws and writer should maintain that balance..

I think most of us who feel Vik is better than dk is acting from subconscious manvik bias.. this is making us put dk under microscope for his mistakes and subconsciously ignore vik's mistakes...

In same way few of us who feel dk is better than Vik are acting from subconscious FL bias.. Just because dk is supporting FL his mistakes are ignored or diluted where as Vik being on bad terms with FL is making us put him and his mistakes under microscope... Example: Vik is absolutely wrong in thinking that mannat could hurt children for profit, wrong in questioning dua's upbringing without knowing the scenario.... Then wasn't mannat wrong in thinking that Vik could hurt a child by making her eat harmful gola, without knowing the incident... if Vik deserves calling out for not trusting mannat in gola kand then mannat too deserves criticism for not trusting Vik that he cannot hurt a child by making her eat harmful gola,I understand mannat here she is reacting from angle of trauma, then why not give same bod to Vik...

From my pov...

As people... Mannat>>>vik,Dk.... Vik=Dk

As couple.... Manvik and dhairya-mannat are incomparable... Dhairya-mannat are not surrounded by 3 vamps trying to seperate them 24/7 and create traumatic, conflicting situations for them... If and when they are surrounded by such people and dk-mannat will still be as understanding or as trusting towards each other then I myself will accept that dhairya-mannat are better.. Until it doesn't happen we cannot even compare both..

Since I haven’t read many of the to for DK & against for Vikrant, I will talk from my FL tunnel vision perspective.

Why is Vikrant always supported by the majority here? Can I ask a very frank question? If he wasn’t being played by Adnan or a similarly good looking actor, would the defence be so vociferous?? Say Aarambhi’s ML was Vikrant, would you really all be up in arms so much??

Yes DK has made mistakes as a cop,but then which ITV cop hasn’t done so?? To stand by a woman and an elderly couple he has no relation with isn’t done by just any odd man. He has lost promotions, probably Indore is a punishment posting, yet he is still feeding and clothing these 4 people. Year after year. As for yesterday’s accusations by Neetu, did you guys really think Matka brought KB PL here to play the wallflower??

To me, as of now, DK is the lesser of the 2 evils. And yes, I think both brothers are flawed. But he wasn’t the one who took a name that was no longer his, nor did he throw out the owners of the wealth & continue to splurge it. The villains definitely are more in fault but has Matka shown any inclination in 1 year to ever expose them or punish them??

We should be fighting for more justice in this show and definitely Vikrant’s redemption & punishment.

Let’s see if we collectively can make Matka do that than arguing about 2 brothers.

So right now I am in the DK camp. Before all your collective feathers get ruffled, I mean DARLING KID Bunty!

I don't know why they are hustling to get money for neetu. They can just let her meet Vikrant and she will be alright. Back to her OG form. Even if she reveals things about dua , Vikrant will not believe her.

It's annoying to see mannat call neetu ma when neetu never values anyone's efforts except for Vikrant. Not does she acknowledges others suffering, only her puttar and herself.

With what rights did she talk so I'll towards dhairya, she ran over his father too not just Vikrant and pouring such hatred towards him. She doesn't have to like him. But pls have some shame.