Mannat Har Khushi Paane Ki: Episode Discussion Thread - 37 - Page 56

Yesterday Vik said chopper nikalo…. Did Yashika go in chopper with Vik?! He broke another one where he had said only Mannat was the girl who sat with him

Originally posted by: Rdigest

I have too much hand on time today 🙈

Bold 1 - This is where I realized post leap we do end up giving a lot of benefit of doubt for Mannat but don't extend the same courtesy to Vikrant. I am not sure if it's because majority of us are of the same gender as Mannat or is it because of the fact Mannat lost Shurti when she was pregnant.

Example that fateful day, because of the lies which tumbled out of the closet like a volcano, there was no time for him to even think or process. He was getting bombarded with 1 lie after another and he had no one to turn to except for Vish whose words were proving to be true. We can question he never trusted Mannat, but the truth was in this matter he did and even turned to her to confirm after the video was played. After that it was just 1 disaster after another.

We have always discussed how RoTu always EB Vikrant into doing things against his will , we have seen Neetu harassing Mannat constantly. Wouldn't Vikrant question why Mannat was supporting Neetu who hated her after the truth is out, wouldn't he wonder if RoTu were not so clean in their past how come they EB him through out his life, infact EB him into marrying M. If I remember correctly he does ask Mannat why she was supporting Neetu who was always against her.

Bold 2 - Exactly, if you look at it the moment Vikrant heard about Shurti he forgot everything and wanted to go be with Mannat, unfortunately villains played dirty here and got to Mannat before Vikrant.

Meant to respond to you after watching the latest episodes... but bold is where I think I get what you meant why Mannat hasnt realised the damage she caused.

And I have a counter view. 😀

Mannat understood Viks pain very well and tried to tell him .. even asked him to go to the room to discuss which he agreed.

But like you said the vamps kept bombarding him with lies. This was his habit of asking proofs from her which Aish exploited.

Whats important is Mannat knew he needs proofs and she was getting them one after another... but he was simply being angry at her and kept on demanding more. (Parallel to Bobby track)

I myself have justified his behaviour then that for him his resurfaced memories acted as proof and Mannat couldnt counter that. No one could have. RoTu couldn't too. There was no question that Neetu caused the accident. She herself accepted that. Red is what I was trying to justify then.

Blue is what Mannat or sach gang was trying to explain... the rest of the truth which Vish was smartly hiding. Vik simply wasn't listening. His jealous nature was exploited too and I do remember saying its better the marriage didnt happen because Vik would have nursed the MU regarding DK.

All this happened before Mannat even knew she was pregnant... so I dont think it was because most of us are of the same gender.

And even then inspite of this humiliation... Mannat did come to him with the news of pregnancy which is where everything broke for her.

Post leap thats her biggest hurt. He not only broke her heart but CAed her with his brother. And was cruel enough to send divorce papers and disown the unborn while Shruti was still on pyre. Mannat even then told him that his anger was justified but not the allegations.

I am fine if he had done that for another random guy.. not for who everyone claims is his elder brother. Thats Vik thinking worst of Mannat.

This is why this one aspect and especially Mallas role in all this needs to come out. Everything Vik did (including hitting DK) is bound to make anyone angry at him. And his tears nor the rant videos to Shruti are going to convince me yet 😝

We have talked about the bias he has for Malla... this was a great example where Malla felt confident enough to carry out her plan exploiting Viks weakness.

Just because she is a vamp doesn't mean her role (like DK) should be ignored. But her less SS and diminished role makes me wonder if all this would be brushed under carpet and only DK will be crucified.

And this is one aspect I am really keen to see when ManVik meet. Whether he still continues on the CA or Mukta redeems him.

I really dont understand how one should not be upset at this. And why should Mannat 'think' on her mistakes when she like Vik doesnt know other half of the truth. Shouldn't we extend the same courtesy to Mannat now??? Being upset over half truths!!!

She tried everything in her might and yet faced the worst kind of wrath from Vik .. there was genuinely nothing more she could have done. Until and unless she gets to know he too was cruelly played... how do we expect her to reflect on her mistakes.

I will keep saying this... at this point with the kind of info Mannat has... she is justified in her stance ... as is Vik.

Till he realises that he only looks at one angle and never questions the alternative... theres no growth in him. Nobody is saying the lies are right.. every character has lied at some point. Its the intention behind that matters.

I will judge all of them for their current perspectives (including DK Mannats pact for Dua) if they do this after the truths start tumbling out.

Right now for characters... neither Vik nor Mannat are coming back in their lives. And if Vik is justified to have a proper GF (and planning to marry her in future) so is Mannat for a pretend husband.

Malla is smartly being kept out of the loop at this point. Otherwise this is another question. How is Vikrant keeping her around as family friend? Poisoning children, lying is all forgiven because she loves him??

there are a few things he has done which have no justification.

That’s why I hope she is the first to be exposed. I don’t know how much more she needs to be exposed but he needs to know about the divorce papers & that she knew Mannat was pregnant

Mannat was hated by her biological mother and she did everything she could to desteoy Mannat.

The words of Malla when she served the divorce papers made Mannat conclude that Vikrant was rejecting his child and hearing that he was rude to Dua and sent people to take her away triggers her fears. She is imagi ing vikrant to be a male ARS and Shruti s words that as a mother she has to forget her ego for the sake of the child will play out only after Vikrant atones for his brashness. Now she is in a protect Dus by any means DK too is in the same mode is what i understand..

Originally posted by: scarlett22

Malla is smartly being kept out of the loop at this point. Otherwise this is another question. How is Vikrant keeping her around as family friend? Poisoning children, lying is all forgiven because she loves him??

there are a few things he has done which have no justification.

That’s why I hope she is the first to be exposed. I don’t know how much more she needs to be exposed but he needs to know about the divorce papers & that she knew Mannat was pregnant

Totally... thats why I was happy with the divorce paper drama. And there are multiple witnesses although some of them are now presumably written off.

My argument for Mallas role in exposure was also because DK is pulled up for (indirectly) helping ARS out of jail and that led to the further drama of letting the truth come out.

But if thats the case Malla also needs to be pulled up... she waa helping Vish do the skit and was siding with Vish throughout the wedding fiasco. DK helped unintentionally but Mallas intentions were out in open. Even if she said she was doing it as favour to Vik... why doesnt he wonder or question how did the truth helped him??? He wont do it now... but he has to do that later.

Originally posted by: Moor278

Meant to respond to you after watching the latest episodes... but bold is where I think I get what you meant why Mannat hasnt realised the damage she caused.

And I have a counter view. 😀

Mannat understood Viks pain very well and tried to tell him .. even asked him to go to the room to discuss which he agreed.

But like you said the vamps kept bombarding him with lies. This was his habit of asking proofs from her which Aish exploited.

Whats important is Mannat knew he needs proofs and she was getting them one after another... but he was simply being angry at her and kept on demanding more. (Parallel to Bobby track)

I myself have justified his behaviour then that for him his resurfaced memories acted as proof and Mannat couldnt counter that. No one could have. RoTu couldn't too. There was no question that Neetu caused the accident. She herself accepted that. Red is what I was trying to justify then.

Blue is what Mannat or sach gang was trying to explain... the rest of the truth which Vish was smartly hiding. Vik simply wasn't listening. His jealous nature was exploited too and I do remember saying its better the marriage didnt happen because Vik would have nursed the MU regarding DK.

All this happened before Mannat even knew she was pregnant... so I dont think it was because most of us are of the same gender.

And even then inspite of this humiliation... Mannat did come to him with the news of pregnancy which is where everything broke for her.

Post leap thats her biggest hurt. He not only broke her heart but CAed her with his brother. And was cruel enough to send divorce papers and disown the unborn while Shruti was still on pyre. Mannat even then told him that his anger was justified but not the allegations.

I am fine if he had done that for another random guy.. not for who everyone claims is his elder brother. Thats Vik thinking worst of Mannat.

This is why this one aspect and especially Mallas role in all this needs to come out. Everything Vik did (including hitting DK) is bound to make anyone angry at him. And his tears nor the rant videos to Shruti are going to convince me yet 😝

We have talked about the bias he has for Malla... this was a great example where Malla felt confident enough to carry out her plan exploiting Viks weakness.

Just because she is a vamp doesn't mean her role (like DK) should be ignored. But her less SS and diminished role makes me wonder if all this would be brushed under carpet and only DK will be crucified.

And this is one aspect I am really keen to see when ManVik meet. Whether he still continues on the CA or Mukta redeems him.

I really dont understand how one should not be upset at this. And why should Mannat 'think' on her mistakes when she like Vik doesnt know other half of the truth. Shouldn't we extend the same courtesy to Mannat now??? Being upset over half truths!!!

She tried everything in her might and yet faced the worst kind of wrath from Vik .. there was genuinely nothing more she could have done. Until and unless she gets to know he too was cruelly played... how do we expect her to reflect on her mistakes.

I will keep saying this... at this point with the kind of info Mannat has... she is justified in her stance ... as is Vik.

Till he realises that he only looks at one angle and never questions the alternative... theres no growth in him. Nobody is saying the lies are right.. every character has lied at some point. Its the intention behind that matters.

I will judge all of them for their current perspectives (including DK Mannats pact for Dua) if they do this after the truths start tumbling out.

Right now for characters... neither Vik nor Mannat are coming back in their lives. And if Vik is justified to have a proper GF (and planning to marry her in future) so is Mannat for a pretend husband.

Thank you for articulating so well!!!

For a person who has watched the entire preleap sequence with detailed episodes of how Vikrant reacted and what he did, I cannot believe people are sympathetic and asking Mannat to introspect for her lies.

To me Mannat is in so much trauma still after 7 years. It’s heartbreaking.

Vikrant after all this is living with Malla and had a GF who freely hugs him sleeps in his room asks for dates …. All this and yet we cannot accept DCP who has been nothing but a gentleman to Mannat. He has not once called her Mannat… he still addresses her Mannatji.
DCP gives Mannat the space to vent her frustrations as a friend he just listens and lets Mannat talk. Yet he gets the flak for supporting Mannat.

Mannat can’t breathe with the trauma she has been through. Vik has the right to breakdown based on the “lies” he was told but Mannat had to take responsibility of it and accept all the cruel treatment- left at the altar, asked to leave the home sign the property, to her she was not only CA with his elder brother but an alleged child with him, top it off handed divorce papers at the funeral of her only reality - her mother Shruthi maa.

I get DCP is a police officer but if Vikrant seeing Arzoo doesn’t even flinch to think Aishwarya is still alive we want a police officer to somehow figure out Aish was alive and she was helping Vish/Malla?

Again I love ManVik… I want Vikrant to understand how much damage his anger has done. He cannot simply cry and vent infront of a phone …. His anger has still not subsided, how he can infront of a child say I will put your parents in jail? So he is still so quick to judge without calmly thinking.

DCP was questioned on how can he let Dua go for competition. Vikrant can judge parenting but when it comes to Yuvi he becomes mallas child wheel it’s shown that he is very close to Buddy… so Yuvi ki parvarish kaise ki Vikrant ne that he is so rude to the house help and etc… isn’t Vik part of that?

Dua was questioned that she lied and that’s the reflection of DCP and Mannat lying - how can anyone make a kid comparison like this. Dua lied because she knows her mom hates Mumbai… Dua is questioned for using phone chupke seh.. she is 7 years old…. Who have dealt with kids I can tell you for sure there is no kid that doesn’t hide something or lie. Even if the parents teach them all the values yeh kids due to fear or lacks the view of consequences they do such crazy thing…. But that doesn’t make the kid bad person. If a kid constantly lies that’s a behavior issue. Dua is smart she is kind worried about her Nani.. wants to contribute at such young age. She has seen happy surrounding… which caused her to become upset when DCP and Mannat were fake arguing. Dua is a good kid! I am absolutely glad Vikrant was there to save her.

anyways my long long rant…. I want a substantial change in Vikrant to say he deserves Dua and Mannat back in his life. If he keeps doing stupidity and flaunts with Y; still thinks DCP and Mannat together then he will lose this fight!

Originally posted by: Moor278

Totally... thats why I was happy with the divorce paper drama. And there are multiple witnesses although some of them are now presumably written off.

My argument for Mallas role in exposure was also because DK is pulled up for (indirectly) helping ARS out of jail and that led to the further drama of letting the truth come out.

But if thats the case Malla also needs to be pulled up... she waa helping Vish do the skit and was siding with Vish throughout the wedding fiasco. DK helped unintentionally but Mallas intentions were out in open. Even if she said she was doing it as favour to Vik... why doesnt he wonder or question how did the truth helped him??? He wont do it now... but he has to do that later.

Who said Malla is/was not pulled up 🫣. She is currently missing from our screens so is being ignored. Once she is back on our screens we will rant like we did pre-leap and you will have to make posts to ignore M on IF .

Also I don't speak about Y, because I dislike the actor. The urge I have in me to 👊 her isn't good for a fictional show which incites anger in me 😭.

Responding here for the other post , too lazy to write 2 posts

I still want Vikrant to find out his faults, redeem himself and pay the price for how he CA Mannat and this is what I want him to be punished for not because he kicked out RoTu nor because he hit DK. The only person he is answerable to is Mannat for me.

However , the point I was trying to make was Vikrant being at fault or having made a bigger mistake doesn't absolve Mannat of her fault and that she has to understand what she did was wrong which was supporting wrong. I myself didn't realize this until I saw Mannat talking so confidently about lying to Dua for ever which was exactly the same mistake she did in the past confirming she doesn't believe she ever made a mistake.

I don't even want Dua to acknowledge Vikrant at all when the truth is out, however 🙈 I want her to call out Mannat aswell for lying to her while talking about always speaking the truth. I am ok if Mannat is able to explain to Dua and she buys her explanation, good for Mannat.

The point I was trying to make was , trying to understand Vikrant's point of View along with his faults doesn't mean Mannat's pain or suffering is ignored nor do I have sympathy for Vikrant. For me both made mistakes and have to correct their mistakes, definitely 1 more than the other.

Like I said DK Mannat is becoming a boring viewing experience.

And yes my contention is always that Vikrant needs to change his attitude which seems to be have become worse post leap. The way he is with Yashika, the next step is very obviously marriage. That’s the amount of leeway and space he has given her in his life.

As long as he does not suspect or know the truth of even one of the malicious women surrounding him, what use is it if Mannat yearns for him? And she does. When she was leaving Mezbaani she looked back to see if she could spot Vikrant. But what good would it do?

She has her own daughter to worry about and she has Rotu to care for. How can she spend her time mooning or crying over Vikrant?

Thats never going to happen RD... .the train left the station when Mannat absolved Neetu by claiming to Vish that Neetu agreed to not give medicines to Vik and Neetu herself destroyed the meds...

Audience knows it was not the case... but they made Mannat say it so we are supposed to believe it.

Just like we are told Aish ka cremation hua hai and Vik saw it.

What you are expecting of Mannats realization based on this one fact alone is not going to happen ever.

If you remember I did say this and many agreed that bringing an actor like Vishakha/Neha was to WW Neetu.

They did not want to address Neetus trauma and mental disturbance the way OG did for whatever reasons. Hence this new character and completely different flashback of terrace situation. Per OG Vish and DK do not exist. This new creativity was to give a clean chit to RoTu.

If you ignore this one angle then Mannat has not committed a mistake.

Mannat was raised single handedly by Shruti. Mannat did crave for a father figure in her life.

In Mannats case not only is she an unwed mom she alao has the responsibility of taking care of Rotu. The happenings in SM ans the behaviour of Vikrant has left Rotu and mannat shattered and Traumatized.

Imagine being on the streets after living a life of luxury. Vikrant threw out the rightful owners of SM yet has no qualms in squandering the money in wretches like Vish Malla ARS , Yuvi and Yashika.

He turns a blind eye and ear to the tantrums of YUvi yet is quick to jump into conclusions and label Duas patents without even meeting them.

Vikrant was and is a prejudiced guy. He has mafe tje wrong judgements and it is not merely his life but those that genuinely cared for him that has gone hay wire.

DK as of now seems to be bearing the cross but is doing it happily since Dua radatrs such Warmth hope and love and is a blessing in the true sense