Gloves Off! Smriti vs Rajan Shahi, Anupamaa crew war intensifies. - Page 20

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

You should see these if you think this is bad.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DQBXBOGDC_p/

Scroll through, she’s not the only one dressed up like Devi Maa.

I don't think they could have insulted Devi Maa any more than dressing up her as Anupamaa. Imagine this lady calls herself Mahadev!!

So I'm not surprised to see this, but sure as hell wish and hope Devi Maa sach mein unki keher dikha de inpe

I guess I should be thankful that they decided to spare a goddess or even us by not dressing up Baa.

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

No need to apologise, rant away. All my knowledge of this show is courtesy of the rants of one of my closest online friends from IF

I didn’t tune into Punar Vivaah much but I do know a bit of the story. The show is about a divorced mom and a widowed man getting married for the sake of having a parental figure of the opposite gender for their kids to provide them a complete family from what I recall. I know that the in-laws get their DIL married but not much else.

But on a similar premise I understand Anandi’s devotion towards her in-laws. Girl practically grows up with them and once Jagdish cheats on her and divorces her because he looks down upon her as an uneducated village bumpkin while he’s become a successful doctor; even her Dadisaa cuts off ties with her grandson completely and becomes Anandi’s biggest cheerleader, support system and hype woman. The turn around of the woman who once locked up Anandi because she was mad at her was phenomenal but also so organic. She didn’t care for the bonds of blood when she saw her own blood had brought disgrace and shame on her family and the girl who had followed every single thing that was expected from her as a bahu was now not just suffering from heartbreak and humiliation but was also made to feel worthless for no fault of her own. It was Dadisaa who held back Anandi from completing her studies and it was Dadisaa who again made sure that Anandi would not only complete her education but also end up becoming a respectable figure in their village rather than a pitied one. She even went absolutely gung-ho about making sure that she married Shiv, someone who not only respected Anandi as an colleague of sorts but also happened to never look down upon her as a woman once he learnt her marriage was over.

Dadisaa could have held onto her beliefs but she didn’t and made sure when Anandi was out in the village no one saw her as a woman to be pitied but as one to be respected and considered as an inspiration.

So yeah, if you have that kind of thing going on for you, I absolutely understand why you’d have a soft corner for your ex husband’s parents even when your marriage ended.

This… this is bizarre behaviour that comes across as a concoction of Stockholm Syndrome mixed in with the Joker ideology of “some people just want to watch the world burn” thrown in there as she thrives in the chaos and doesn’t know how to exist or breathe now unless she’s being humiliated and burdened with responsibilities that she doesn’t need to endure in the first place.

Honestly, woman is a study subject for those wishing to understand toxic behaviour and the fetish of being degraded. Because nothing else explains her behaviour and choices.

@b: It’s like she gets a high from being humiliated and burdened with responsibilities that aren’t even hers to begin with. And does she actually do them? Of course not. She half-asses everything, all while expecting everyone else to just bend over backwards to accommodate her nonsense. It’s especially the apologies—said in a fake Gujarati accent she probably thinks will earn her brownie points—but they onl grate on my nerves.

@pink: For a minute there, I thought you were talking about Abhira (from Yeh Rishta Kya Kehlata Hai) and not Anupamaa. Then I realized this is basically how the female leads in both of Rajan’s shows are. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Originally posted by: missFiesty_69

I don't think they could have insulted Devi Maa any more than dressing up her as Anupamaa. Imagine this lady calls herself Mahadev!!

So I'm not surprised to see this, but sure as hell wish and hope Devi Maa sach mein unki keher dikha de inpe

I guess I should be thankful that they decided to spare a goddess or even us by not dressing up Baa.

There are 9 of them. All of them are not even in these pictures and she actually has a dialogue about 9 Devis punishing these men and particularly the old guy at her feet in the first picture. He’s shown as a godman of sorts who is also a village head from what I found out and he is shown as assaulting young women and girls of the village in the guise of treating them.

The clincher - he’s shown as a Devi Upasaka while at it.

If that’s not leftist, anti- Hindu and outright blasphemous propaganda then I don’t know what it is. Of all the things that they could have shown they chose this. There could have easily been a track where women are shown as being exploited and assaulted by some shady powerful figure but they didn’t need to make it about a man pretending to be a Devi Upasaka while he runs a p**n racket in reality.

Could have easily been a politician, a hospital owner, a principal or someone in a position of power and authority in a public institution but they didn’t choose any of those scenarios.


In the guise of educating people about superstition in 2025, as if we are still stuck in 50s or so where British propaganda and bullshit made us look like poor, ill-fed, uneducated heathen savages; they write this.

She basically comes across as one of those people who complain they have to do everything after ensuring that they are the only ones who do everything and then make a fuss about how no one around them is of any use and they’re all just so burdensome and tiring.

They have this God/superiority complex - only I can do everything and do things right. Of course when they mess up inevitably as there’s too much on their plate they find a way to blame others and twist things around them in a way that makes it seem like they can never get any rest or be thanked for their hard work despite everything while they are the toxic one to begin with.

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Frankly she’s made me respect Tripti, Mandira, Payal etc. as characters because at the end of the day, evil as they were, these women never claimed to be perfect role models or wives or anything and never made any secret regarding their intentions, goals or even their traits as a person and a character. This one here is a chameleon masquerading as an ideal woman who is a heroine that can be an inspiration to others and teach them everything from cooking, dancing to raising children to everything and anything under the sun; only for her to have nothing concrete to show for her so-called accomplishments.

At least the likes of Tripti never played a victim card, never proclaimed themselves as some virtuous role model who despite doing everything right ends up howling woe is me.

They’re not wolf in sheep’s clothing for sure as this one surely is - both on and offscreen from whatever is known now.

This exactly, is what gets my goat. The constant projection about her being an ideal (now she's even being deified) whereas her actions have never matched up, rather they veer on the edge of being misdeeds.

I am in the same boat as your friend and though I don't expect any sense whatsoever from this show now, it was deeply disappointing when something that was meant to be a realistic and simple portrayal of a woman's journey towards respect and dignity, became the complete opposite and turned into trash.

A lot of people are probably just habituated to watching without much expectations and many watch just to get some laughs out of her antics. I used to do the latter but even that has become difficult, of late.

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

There are 9 of them. All of them are not even in these pictures and she actually has a dialogue about 9 Devis punishing these men and particularly the old guy at her feet in the first picture. He’s shown as a godman of sorts who is also a village head from what I found out and he is shown as assaulting young women and girls of the village in the guise of treating them.

The clincher - he’s shown as a Devi Upasaka while at it.

If that’s not leftist, anti- Hindu and outright blasphemous propaganda then I don’t know what it is. Of all the things that they could have shown they chose this. There could have easily been a track where women are shown as being exploited and assaulted by some shady powerful figure but they didn’t need to make it about a man pretending to be a Devi Upasaka while he runs a p**n racket in reality.

Could have easily been a politician, a hospital owner, a principal or someone in a position of power and authority in a public institution but they didn’t choose any of those scenarios.


In the guise of educating people about superstition in 2025, as if we are still stuck in 50s or so where British propaganda and bullshit made us look like poor, ill-fed, uneducated heathen savages; they write this.

Yes, It seems like his henchman(men) were responsible for her son's death.

Exactly! It honestly makes me mad—is blind superstition/faith constricted only to Hinduism? No one else ? They make it seem like it's the only faith that promotes and encourages blind faith, which is simply not true. I absolutely don’t justify or deny the existence of frauds who exploit people using their faith, but why does it have to be someone who claims to some sort of spiritual leader or someone who's a God man ? He can be an influential person and still exploit people for his selfish gain, right ?

They showed this in rishta gen 2 too. They haven't changed anything much. There, the guy used to kidnap orphaned kids and sell them, here this guy is running a prostitution racket. If the objective was to caution people against believing in blind superstition, that could have been shown in numerous ways but nope, they choose this.

The irony is both the actor & the producer claim to be extremely pious. Ha!

Originally posted by: ShahH8er

This exactly, is what gets my goat. The constant projection about her being an ideal (now she's even being deified) whereas her actions have never matched up, rather they veer on the edge of being misdeeds.

I am in the same boat as your friend and though I don't expect any sense whatsoever from this show now, it was deeply disappointing when something that was meant to be a realistic and simple portrayal of a woman's journey towards respect and dignity, became the complete opposite and turned into trash.

A lot of people are probably just habituated to watching without much expectations and many watch just to get some laughs out of her antics. I used to do the latter but even that has become difficult, of late.

The issue is, those women never chased the need to have a certificate or validation of being the perfect mothers or wives or whatever.

They were clear about what they wanted - money or a man - and they chased after it and it it came with a certain amount of baggage be it in the form of in-laws or children or both; they didn’t mind carrying those around for the sake of their prize but made no bones about the fact that they were going to do the bare minimum; perfunctory things that would be included with the role. That’s it; they never claimed that they would be willing to bend over backwards for the sake of this additional baggage they didn’t sign up for but knew they had to carry.

Their accountability was zero because their need for validation and certification was also zero.

Here this woman seems to have children who are screwups and she loves to scream, rant and rage at them for their actions while lamenting that they are such disasters. Well, woman if you are their mother and raised them as well as a mother could per your claims then why is it that they turned out to be such people? Where’s your accountability for your upbringing?

Someone mentioned how she has a son she beat up, threw out of the house, asking the wife of said son to break ties with him only to take him back in two days later earlier in this thread. What that tells me is that when her kids were younger and made mistakes she didn’t punish them in a way that drove lessons home; probably just beat them up until she was tired or distracted by something else and then the kid never learned anything. There were no conversations to be had, no consequences for any mistakes made intentionally or otherwise; for any misconduct or foul language or anything. Beatings, screaming and raging… no wonder her kids are wrecks.

Has she questioned her own upbringing? Her own mistakes as a mother? Has anyone else done that which hit the nail on the head? I doubt it.

Parents are not perfect; no mother or father is or can be. They all screw up and they all end up inflicting some kind of damage or hurt to their child or children; sometimes intentionally and sometimes unintentionally. It all comes down to the individual in question tbh and their mindset, circumstances etc. So no one is forcing her to be a perfect mother, nor can she claim to be one on her own either.

The problem here is that this idea is being promoted here that despite having such screwed up and messed up kids - both biological and adopted - this woman is a perfect mother. Any problems with her kids are their own faults and shortcomings despite the common denominator between kids born to her and adopted is her. And when that’s the case, how can her role and influence in their lives be ignored or dismissed entirely?

You cannot claim to be a perfect mother to messed up kids… and you also cannot claim to be a perfect mother ONLY when your kids are alright and as successful and happy as they could be.

If you own your role as a mother in their successes and take pride in raising them well, then you should be held accountable for their failures as human beings too as they’re the product of your upbringing and you cannot conveniently discard your failures as a mother if your children are horrible people too.

This is not a job where a senior can take credit when things go right and assign blame on underlings when something goes wrong simply by the virtue of presiding over them because at the end of the day who would call out the incompetence or bad behaviour of the one signing your salary slips and holding the power to make or break your career. This is parenting and there are no means by which you always have the upper hand or the ability to control the narrative of what is said and done.

Unfortunately, this woman comes across as one of those people who will not waste a second to take credit by taking a mile a minute when something goes right but will utterly distance herself from any accountability when things go wrong even as she plays the victim card and pretends that she doesn’t understand how and why did things go wrong at all.

I had no idea about a similar track in Rishta too. Thanks for sharing this! This is absolutely and utterly disgusting!

Yes, there are people who exploit using the guise of religion and beliefs but they most certainly are not limited to one religion as Bollywood and Indian TV is hell bent on projecting. They dare not say anything about any other religious group but will openly malign the one which is also ironically their largest target base as an audience too.

The propaganda is also done so smartly and subtly that unless you pay attention and know what to look for you don’t see it for the utter manipulation, contempt and psychological warfare it is to brainwash people into believing such things exist and only exist in one religion because they obviously never see anything bad or wrong in anything else. Sure, they might read something in the news occasionally or on watch some news bulletins but nothing sticks as much as such propaganda wrapped up in the guise of storytelling does.

There is a reason why Chanakya, the smartest and most savvy political guru that’s existed in our country believed that entertainers of any kind didn’t belong in the cities and had to be kept away from mingling with the society on a regular basis. He allowed them within city limits only for certain occasions, within specific areas and with fixed routes assigned that they had to adhere to and obey enforced by the local security forces of the area.

He believed entertainers could not be trusted as they could be made to do anything and a competent writer with brilliant actors could create plays that could incite rebellions, riots and rot in the country and society on the streets if they were left unchecked. They could be puppets of an enemy that would love to destroy you using your own people against you who would sell their souls for a few pennies or silks or sensual pleasures or something else that would flatter their vanity.

The man was a visionary who knew the power of the visual medium thousands of years ago and his assessment stands valid and accurate even today; unfortunately in an era where you can’t avoid entertainers as you carry them in your pockets and purses and could very well be one yourself for the sake of some likes and going viral!

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

I had no idea about a similar track in Rishta too. Thanks for sharing this! This is absolutely and utterly disgusting!

Yes, there are people who exploit using the guise of religion and beliefs but they most certainly are not limited to one religion as Bollywood and Indian TV is hell bent on projecting. They dare not say anything about any other religious group but will openly malign the one which is also ironically their largest target base as an audience too.

The propaganda is also done so smartly and subtly that unless you pay attention and know what to look for you don’t see it for the utter manipulation, contempt and psychological warfare it is to brainwash people into believing such things exist and only exist in one religion because they obviously never see anything bad or wrong in anything else. Sure, they might read something in the news occasionally or on watch some news bulletins but nothing sticks as much as such propaganda wrapped up in the guise of storytelling does.

There is a reason why Chanakya, the smartest and most savvy political guru that’s existed in our country believed that entertainers of any kind didn’t belong in the cities and had to be kept away from mingling with the society on a regular basis. He allowed them within city limits only for certain occasions, within specific areas and with fixed routes assigned that they had to adhere to and obey enforced by the local security forces of the area.

He believed entertainers could not be trusted as they could be made to do anything and a competent writer with brilliant actors could create plays that could incite rebellions, riots and rot in the country and society on the streets if they were left unchecked. They could be puppets of an enemy that would love to destroy you using your own people against you who would sell their souls for a few pennies or silks or sensual pleasures or something else that would flatter their vanity.

The man was a visionary who knew the power of the visual medium thousands of years ago and his assessment stands valid and accurate even today; unfortunately in an era where you can’t avoid entertainers as you carry them in your pockets and purses and could very well be one yourself for the sake of some likes and going viral!

Every faith has its share of complexities — things that might not make sense to outsiders but hold meaning for those who follow it. What’s truly exhausting is watching these so-called entertainers repeatedly target one specific group under the guise of storytelling.

That said, I don’t place all the blame on them. In many ways, we enable this pattern by staying silent. Most people choose to look away or remain indifferent. Very few actually speak up — and until that changes, this cycle won’t stop.

As long as there’s an audience willing to consume such content, they’ll keep producing it. For them, it’s a win-win: they get to push a narrative and still pull in TRPs.

@b: You’re absolutely right — Chanakya was truly a visionary. Sadly, there's no one like him, or with his foresight, to help people truly grasp today how deeply media can influence minds and shape society.

Originally posted by: missFiesty_69

Every faith has its share of complexities — things that might not make sense to outsiders but hold meaning for those who follow it. What’s truly exhausting is watching these so-called entertainers repeatedly target one specific group under the guise of storytelling.

That said, I don’t place all the blame on them. In many ways, we enable this pattern by staying silent. Most people choose to look away or remain indifferent. Very few actually speak up — and until that changes, this cycle won’t stop.

As long as there’s an audience willing to consume such content, they’ll keep producing it. For them, it’s a win-win: they get to push a narrative and still pull in TRPs.

@b: You’re absolutely right — Chanakya was truly a visionary. Sadly, there's no one like him, or with his foresight, to help people truly grasp today how deeply media can influence minds and shape society.

Yes, these people were enabled because of silence but they also ensured silence in a way. They made people who spoke up feel guilty, if you questioned them they would make you look like the bad party, the guilty party because they spoke of tolerance, highlighting the bad side of things and accused you of being hand in glove, supportive of those very things that they were calling out.

Like I said, clever manipulation and the mentality that colonial mindset imposed upon us to look down upon everything that we are or were escalated and ensured the process was smooth, slick and ran efficiently.

What really pisses me off here is the timing too. These episodes are not airing randomly just to have some filler episodes to kill airtime when the show has no real plot to begin with, these episodes are intentionally being aired at the time of Diwali when we celebrate the victory of good over evil, the celebration of the homecoming of Ram in Ayodhya after more than 500 years, the very first Diwali where the Mandir is being declared as completed and the final ceremony is set to take place in the next few days. It certainly doesn’t seem like a coincidence… because these episodes could have very well been aired at the end of this month or the next or during the New Year’s holidays in December when most people would be travelling to party and celebrate; busy with festivities and on holidays. Why not then or any other time of the year? Why now?