Mannat Har Khushi Paane Ki: Episode Discussion Thread - 17 - Page 35

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

Noyontara... ek pyaari si ladki jiski har FL ki tarah band bajne wali hai. Aaj se, har roz raat, 08:30 baje sirf, Colors aur JioHotstar par.

Arye har colors show kaa ek hee theme hain Shaadi within one week off launch/leap yeh kaisa obsession hain Bhai. merko laga colors may do something different from other channels based on my past experience with a colors show

Originally posted by: Saichintalli

@bold, I am with you in this, even I didn't felt odd,

@red.... Also when vikranth said Kya ho saktha hai Kya hai vo chodo, tumhare dil mei Kya hai vo bolo.... I really felt this is want he meant.... He wants to know why mannath is feeling sad and all .. I really liked it....

Hmm.... Sometimes I really doubt mannath even if she don't realize, we know she loves him.... That guy is about to get married, but she is sad when she sees him with someone but after that she even don't think about him , just go around ars.... If at all this drama , will mannath ever realize her love for vikranth..... I mean yes vikranth can say I live you... But realizing your true love by yourself and accepting the proposal from a boy you are comfortable with are two completely different things ....

So I am really wondering if not for this drama, would mannath ever accepted her feelings, what are your thoughts....

I still say vikranth is true gentlemen, I did say aise tracks in so many shows... How patiently vikranth asks mannath to analyze her feelings is so new.... I know I am carrying away by adnan acting but vikranth is 😘 😘 😘

I am a little confused about the discussion on why can't they show Mannat confessing first. Honestly, I am all for a girl confessing and find nothing wrong with this and would have cheered if Mannat confessed not letting Neetu's taunts take a decision for her.

But in this situation, I am confused since we know what Vikrant has landed himself and Mannat into, what Malla asked from Mannat, Mannat even wanted to clarify with Vikrant if he loves Malla.

Even if Mannat loves Vikrant why are we expecting she confessess if the guy she thought liked him suddenly proposed to her bestie 🤔. Don't you think from Mannat's perspective Vikrant is 2 timing though she is not saying this yet 😬 (we as audience know he is not 2 timing but Mannat is not aware) . And then there is the elephant in the room 'Trust' which is not addressed yet.

At the moment I see Mannat trying to build tallest walls around herself and focus on ARS so this marriage doesn't hurt her, this is what I am seeing from her dance and cold attitude towards Vikrant. In the past too she was surrounded by pain, sorrow, was spying on ARS, recently Neetu , but she was never this cold or distant with Vikrant. But now she is hurting herself by hurting Vikrant and you can see the pain in the last episode when she talks about who is in his kismat😭.

I feel bad for both of them with what they landed themselves into and little more mad at Vikrant for kick starting this domino effect and pushing her into this when she was in such a sensitive state of mind 😭

At this point for either one of them to confess the only way I see is a major accident or their life is in danger or some other shock. Or go straight to wedding, Vikrant might misunderstand Mannat (since the medicine swap BTS came I am thinking about this ) that she is drugging him and force her to marry him or bride swap like we discussed and leave the confession out for now 🙈

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Arye har colors show kaa ek hee theme hain Shaadi within one week off launch/leap yeh kaisa obsession hain Bhai. merko laga colors may do something different from other channels based on my past experience with a colors show

Originally posted by: Moor278

Monday mish mash kind of episode...

Koi please Vikku boy ke liye acchhe dialouges likho ... Adnans craft is the only thing which is making Vik stay afloat.

@Nutty... ARS Mannat dekh aaj... mast hai

Starts with ManVik discussion where Mannat tells him koi rishta tha nahi aur na ho sakta hai.

Vik leaves her arms disappointed but tells her he doesn't want to hear what it was or what it could be... hein??? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Mannat couldn't be more clear... atleast iss FL ke saath communication issues bilkul nahi hai 😆

She tells him how can she express her feelings when he is engaged to her best friend... had his first shaadi ka rasm today. Her chunni is going to be attached to him... she is very khushnaseeb (a pained smile beautifully done by Ayesha) .. but she is his naseeb ... not her/Mannat.

Vik is disappointed... pata nahi Kitna gaya uske dimaag main...

Anyway Radhaji Krishnaji hear the chunni bit and they decide to intervene. Kafi physics defying chunni rasm over Mannat and Vikrant.

Vikrant immediately has a mood switch. He is now happy and Mannat is stunned at the symbolism.

Vik takes a chance again and asks her to ponder... whether they do have a naseeb together and this maybe a sign. Mannat is hurt and removes the chunni, hands it to him and starts walking away without a word.

Yaha pe Vikku ke kathani aur Karni main mel nahi hai 🤦‍♀️

He starts talking to himself (not sure if Mannat is hearing this)

I will find a Haan in your every naa... (excuse me but very men cant take no for an answer type tha 🙄)

Whether you call me a liar... I will stay true to you... 😍😍😍

And whether you turn to look at me or not/palat ke dekhogi .. I will wait for you... today, tomm and forever... (bhai Tera shaadi ho raha hai for all intents and purposes... kya ajeeb dialogue hai ye 🤦‍♀️)

Anyway Mannu babe palats after hearing the forever thing... Vik is relieved and Mannat walks away again... sad...

ARS is sitting and wondering why Mannat stayed back after so much humiliation... its unlike her. She quickly deduces Mannat must have stayed for her and will blackmail her.

Mannat comes in the outhouse room crying and Shalini apologizes for not standing up for her. Mannat doesn't blame her and rather thanks her for coming to SM inspite of the trauma to help Mannat. They plan on their next steps but Shalini quickly spots ARS and changes her tone.

Instructs Mannat something for the party and turns to look at ARS. ARS tells her to go as she wants to speak to Mannat.

ARS asks her if she stayed back to win Vik... but it doesn't matter coz Vik is engaged to Malla and that he is playing around with Mannat like most rich boys do. He doesn't mean any of the attention he gives her. Calls her gold digger and asks if she wants to land up V.

Mannat looks upset but quickly returns it back to ARS Sood samet

Mannat tells her she doesn't know any girl like the one ARS is describing... neither is Mannat that girl.. maybe ARS is sharing her personal experiences... the silent slap hits ARS like anything and she quickly leaves. 😝😝😝

Mannat Shalini are plotting their next move again and Shalini is the one writing letters for Mannat.

They decide to strike the same night or it may look like Mannat got rattled.

Mannat goes to the main part of house. Vikrant is walking in from somewhere (slightly drenched from IF article) cat and mouse between ManVik when he finally catches her by the column.

He asks why is she working so late at night... Mannat replies farak padta hai since its her best friends wedding and her bosses wedding. He did so many ehsaan on her, she needs to repay them. This is her chance. Vik is hurting... questions if she thinks all this was ehsaan??? Mannat asks what else it could be... she is happy for the opportunity to repay them and she will make sure everything is perfect

Vikku boy is tremendously sad now and slightly angry. He leaves but thunder strikes and he stays back... knowing how much it affects Mannat.

Mannat is shaken as expected and reaches out to his hand on the column. Vik stands still till it subsides a little and Mannat leaves on her own.

Loved this scene and how it was framed. Vik was upset but he didnt leave... Mannat was upset yet she knew she can reach out to him... and reach she did...

He kept his hand at a suitable distance and it was she who grabbed it with the pinky finger hold.

The letter Mannat was planting has fallen from her hands but because of Vikku... it gets wet. ARS is in the kitchen and overhears voices, comes by to check but ManVik have dispersed by then and when ARS finds the letter, she cant read it. BKB 😎

Next day ARS and I assume Ram Bhavan ki PL have a convo... they are up to mark with each others kaands and she gives an idea of the flouroscent powder which Mannat cant wash off. Will send it for ARs which she can then use to check for fingerprints on the letter. ARS gives her tips to frame her FL.

ViMal convo in gym where Vik is still stuck on rishtha nahi ho sakta ... he talks to Malla and says I am worried for you... we both know this is a fake drama... so when it comes out for the families... it may create problems for you... scene incomplete.

Precap is party... Mannu dancing on Ramleela song... ARS has put the powder on Mannats hands through a house staff... which shines in the UV light.

You amaze me that you can detail all the scenes so well and so quickly after watching the episode 🥹 ty for the tag.

It was a mush mash of scenes but on a lighter note than Friday’s chunri build up so I enjoyed it.

Like Coolmeg and others I’m still captivated by Adnan’s depth of portraying heartbroken Vikku, and am overlooking the complete illogicality of Vikku continuing with this plan.
Mannat is bound by loyalty, to her best friend and also her BKB and tells him this clearly. I feel some of what she said registered and that’s why he has the conversation in the gym with Malla about when they tell the family it was all a ruse (forget the part of hurting Malla). He feels it’s time to come clean that Malla isn’t actually his fiancée, thereby Mannat is freed from feeling she’s betraying her friend and can confess her own feelings for him. In his lovelorn mind it’s that simple, although he recognises that ARS won’t be happy and Malla will face her wrath hence the ‘hurting Malla’ part of his conversation. He doesn’t appear to have given much thought to Neetu’s tantrums and insults towards Mannat nor how he will overcome his mother’s hatred. With the Aman revelation just round the corner his own relationship with his mother will break down so I feel writers aren’t wasting too much time in Vikku’s introspection of Neetu’s/Mannat relationship 😂

But back to the illogical part, he is going to be gullible and trust Malla over his own convictions, somehow Malla will persuade him to carry on with the plan in tomorrow’s episode. But as a consolation we get the cocktail party dance and the mystery of where Vikku spent the night and with whom.

The side plot of Mannat after ARS is fun to watch but again so unrealistic ….. I feel it’s only hatched up to achieve whatever goals they have for Vikrant/Aman/drugging plot being played out. And obviously have Mannat in SM and focus elsewhere so as to be able to switch off and distance herself from Vikrant’s advances.

Absolutely loved Mannat’s reply to ARS to her gold-digging taunts, but it’s registered.
I liked your comment Moor, that actually Mannat should realise that as it’s ARS it should mean the exact opposite and ARS is only out to protect her ‘daughter’s interest, so in fact Vikrant isn’t actually toying with Mannat.

Looking forward to the cocktail party dance and the nights memory loss…..

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

Woh Rangu alag tha...ab rangu badal gaya hai. Fir bhi ZEE se toh better hi hai. I had to drag myself to watch that bhagya universe crap

OMG, you are a bhagya audience 😯. Z waala shows Maine Kuch nahee dekha for years

I dont want Mannat to confess first... she is absolutely right where she stands...

She can confess only and if Vikrant triggers her tremendously... and her confession might come out as a rant... I see no other way

My new theory is ViMal shaadi rukegi but there will be pause and ManVik wont happen so soon

Thank you Shazia...

I can do that only if the episode is on time..

I totally agree with you in Mannat ARS plan... it is only to give her a reason to stay in SM... give Vikku the delusion that she is staying for him and keep her occupied and distant from Vikku.

This naive plan is not going to work on a hardened criminal like ARS... Mannat should be aware of that....

Hai na... you agree for that comment too right? It is so unlikely of ARS to think of Mannats good... that should ring bells for her... .. who knows they might later when she finds out Malla trapped Vik and ARS might also be involved.

Originally posted by: Rdigest

I am a little confused about the discussion on why can't they show Mannat confessing first. Honestly, I am all for a girl confessing and find nothing wrong with this and would have cheered if Mannat confessed not letting Neetu's taunts take a decision for her.

But in this situation, I am confused since we know what Vikrant has landed himself and Mannat into, what Malla asked from Mannat, Mannat even wanted to clarify with Vikrant if he loves Malla.

Even if Mannat loves Vikrant why are we expecting she confessess if the guy she thought liked him suddenly proposed to her bestie 🤔. Don't you think from Mannat's perspective Vikrant is 2 timing though she is not saying this yet 😬 (we as audience know he is not 2 timing but Mannat is not aware) . And then there is the elephant in the room 'Trust' which is not addressed yet.

At the moment I see Mannat trying to build tallest walls around herself and focus on ARS so this marriage doesn't hurt her, this is what I am seeing from her dance and cold attitude towards Vikrant. In the past too she was surrounded by pain, sorrow, was spying on ARS, recently Neetu , but she was never this cold or distant with Vikrant. But now she is hurting herself by hurting Vikrant and you can see the pain in the last episode when she talks about who is in his kismat😭.

I feel bad for both of them with what they landed themselves into and little more mad at Vikrant for kick starting this domino effect and pushing her into this when she was in such a sensitive state of mind 😭

At this point for either one of them to confess the only way I see is a major accident or their life is in danger or some other shock. Or go straight to wedding, Vikrant might misunderstand Mannat (since the medicine swap BTS came I am thinking about this ) that she is drugging him and force her to marry him or bride swap like we discussed and leave the confession out for now 🙈

💯

Also Mannat did not even get any time to have some calm introspection related to Vikrant. Ladki kisi na kisi situation mei fass jati hai since she has joined Mezbani.

And when Vikrant was actually going to propose her, he fell ill and then all that chaos happened.

How is she even supposed to think straight ?

If only Vikrant after that night fiasco had taken some time to continue from were he stopped then today's fake engagement situation wouldn't have arisen but as bad luck they say Sunita passed away.

Also no self respecting girl be it Mannat or anyone would chase a guy who is committed to another girl who is her bestie. Ek toh sis code will break + incessant taunts of SM members. How much will a girl take??

Just like men have bro code system, girls have sis code too. 2 girls wont chase the same guy just like the boys wont chase the same girl.

Originally posted by: truptishree

Count me in. Even I didn’t find that dialogue odd. At first i did find it bit odd knowing his character but when I again listened it properly there is a different meaning to it. Whenever she will say no he will try to find a reason for her yes that means he will do something for it and wait for her that’s what I interpreted from that line. Hope I am making sense here.

About Mannat I agree without this drama IDT she would’ve realised what’s in her heart and she is still holding herself back because of the promise she made to Malla.

Again agree about FL. IDK why they want to show FL Mahan yaar? Show her like a normal girl and from this era where Girls don’t mind to propose a guy if they like him. Why every time boy has to propose? and as such nowadays girls are very bold and don’t mind to say what they feel👏👏

TBH I am confused about Mannat because we don’t see her pondering over about Vikrant. She is stuck on ARS but whenever she sees Vikrant with Malla then we see her sad face and feeling bad but then what? Understandable that she has things going on her back of the mind but then what about her heart and Vikrant.

I prefer a FL who will say what she wants irrespective of the outcome.

You know I used to watch one regional show and i loved it. Beautiful love story . Principles vs Love.

Both ML and FL used to open their mouth at right time and at right place. FL was not ready to accept that she loves ML but she gives in for love she has for ML. ML breaks up with her after knowing she lied to him that she is his Teacher’s daughter and he will never accept him as SIL but FL apologies to him, convince him that we will be together in this fight and we will persuade my father. She stands by ML against her father and they both convince him. TBH I loved this show because both ML and FL stood by their love and fought for it.

I would love to see this kind of story here. ML and FL actually fighting for their love. Here we see only ML making an efforts and FL is busy finding proofs.

Sometimes even I wonder for a moment keep aside Vikrant’s feelings but what about Mannat? What will be her limit to acknowledge her feelings openly?

We can judge Vikrant for this plan but at least that guy is making an effort so Mannat will acknowledge her feelings. Looking at Mannat IDT so she would’ve ever thought on those lines that she loves him. Because of this though it’s idiotic plan but it’s arousing feelings in Mannat be it jealousy or hurt seeing Vikrant with someone else. Hope she will openly acknowledge her feelings 🤞🧿

I find it hard to put fault on Mannat considering how she is treated by the Salujas and how Vikrant is now marrying her friend. Focusing only on the ARS saga is probably also a copying mechanism. What good will it do for her trying to focus on what Vikrant means to her when he is no longer available. Crying buckets over a guy who is marrying her best friend? His mum has named her a gold digger after her son then she goes and confesses to Vikrant? I'm actually glad she has something to focus on other than her love story with Vikrant. He needs to clear the mess he has created. It was already going to be a challenge to get accepted into that family without him adding the drama of her stealing her friend's man. Mannat was ready to acknowledge her feelings when he was unconscious after the cake fiasco. It was all in her dialogue when she was speaking to him in his unconscious state. All the marriage functions he is having her prepare would be heart-breaking for her and she is finding ways to cope.

I think what probably would have made you happy as a viewer is if her love realisation is shown upfront even without acknowledging to Vikrant and then she is shown to be choosing to focus on the ARS drama whilst her feelings are made clear. It was a frustration for me at first but i'm now preferring it this way. I wouldn't have wanted her to have a mental breakdown. She is already dealing with a lot. Also there was no time for her to react to anything. Vikrant proposes and immediately tells her she is responsible for all the marriage function preparations. I think for myself in such a situation in order to cope i would get into self preservation mode. And the occasional tears that are pouring out is what shows that as much as she is trying to shield her heart from pain it's not foolproof from the aches. Maybe the actual breakdown would come when he actually gets married (though we know it won't get to that). She is probably going through stages of grief. lol and is in denial about what's happening. I have to admit though that there is an element of it being odd how she is acting and responding to what's happening but it's kind of hard to name it.

Originally posted by: Moor278

I dont want Mannat to confess first... she is absolutely right where she stands...

She can confess only and if Vikrant triggers her tremendously... and her confession might come out as a rant... I see no other way

My new theory is ViMal shaadi rukegi but there will be pause and ManVik wont happen so soon

Batao kyaa theory hain , I don't want Shaadi anyways

Sometimes I feel Vikrant doesn't pay attention to Mannat's emotional state and is in his own world since he realized he loves Mannat. Yesterday too got the same feeling after Mannat told him Malla is his kismat and how can she express anything to him💔.