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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

@bold have you seen Pakistani media? It is way more a sensationalizer. Dawn and The News both reported that Pakistan has hit and destroyed India's military Brigade headquarters. They were sensationalizing each and everything way more than Indian media can ever do. Yet they were able to sell their narrative

And no this time government wasn't at fault, Indian military officers did the Press conference and it was very professional and detailed... They didn't leave even an iota of ambiguity. Even the international media did cover airbase losses of Pakistan and showed how much Pakistan is hit.

The issue is Pakistan was able to make it all about the number of jets fallen and claimed victory there since India stayed quite on the number of jets they lost or the number they hit.

Pakistanis within do believe that Indian military is all in ruins..

But my point wasn't even that. What I am saying is even if they were able to convince the world that they have won this war(which wasn't a war in the first place), still there is no ambiguity about who won 71 and 99 ( assuming they claimed and made the world believe the stalemate of 65 and 49 as wins) Even Shehbaz Sharif openly accepted the loss of 71 saying that they avenged that now.

In that case how are they able to bring the jibe 6-0 and make it organically reached out to everyone? Now on social media 6-0 means 6 victory of Pakistan, done and settled. It has nothing to do with international media, nothing to do with government. It has nothing to do with even the big influencer accounts, it's all about common people, it's all them. Pakistanis don't care about the facts but simply spread whatever they want. As you said making anyone who tried to correct them as Pajeet and other slurs. And then Indians leave (I myself would)

We saw how much their army officers made a fool of them but couldn't turn that into a social media meme..

That's what I think is the issue. We shall not focus on making correcting them using facts but simply make memes around them and make that famous. Ignore whether it's true or not

I don't know if I could explain myself

Yes i have seen pakistani media as well. They are no less than us when it comes to sensationalizing news reports. On social media, both pakistanis and indians were using each others media's sensationalized and false reports to mock one another.

Our army definitely held a very detailed press conference and provided true evidence but that happened only after the mutual understanding. The first big blow to india on the global stage was CNN’s report claiming that a Rafale jet was shot down, that was the point when many around the world started believing it was true and saw it as a major defeat for india.

Pakistan then began adding more lies, such as claiming they shot down additional jets. International media started reporting on those claims and by the time our army held a press conference to clarify everything, pakistan’s misinformation had already spread worldwide. So even when we shared the truth, much of the global media either ignored it or people didnt believe us. CNN’s false report about a Rafale being shot down by a J10C caused a lot of damage globally, it spread like wildfire. I saw many foreign reports from the eastern sphere discussing how french high tech jet failed against chinese garbage.

So yes, at that time, our government should have officially denied those false claims early on and could have directly contacted CNN with clarifications. But by the time the army presented detailed and factual information, it was already too late, the world had moved on to other issues and not many paid attention. You can clearly see how india staying silent during the initial days of the conflict ended up harming us, even though we actually won against pakistan.

Regarding what you said about social media and the 6-0 meme, yes both indians and pakistanis were mocking each other with memes. The 6-0 and fantastic tea were two of pakistan’s meme weapons against india. Of course, they were spreading lies but they did it for their country, just as indians did for theirs with other memes. In fact, many indian memes gained far more traction than Pakistan’s 6-0 and fantastic tea memes. So overall indians were winning the social media war, we were way ahead of them.

Just check any india-pakistan conflict tweet on X and look at the proportion of indians vs. pakistanis. Even if some pakistani says something against India, you will see how indian users gang up on them. I have seen the same on Insta too.

Coming to china claiming arunachal pradesh, just look at the number of likes on that post. It was only around 4.1k, which isnt a big deal. Random indian social media users get more likes than that on their pakistan related memes.

One more piece of evidence that indians have a much stronger social media presence than pakistanis, there was a pakistani minister who said something about the conflict and a random indian guy mocked him. The indian’s tweet got 18k likes while the pakistani minister’s original tweet barely had 5-6k likes.

So you cant say indians dont have social media presence, they actually have and much more stronger than pakistanis.

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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: JumpinJack

Yes things have changed drastically especially after current affairs forum. Before that this place felt like a jehadi adda.smiley36

I never participated in any of the IF forums except for one private forum im a part of so i had no idea about that. At least here, things are quite cool and i havent faced any issues so far. Hopefully it will remain the same in the future as well.

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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: suhaaana

Hey guys..

Apparently Afghan trucks can now enter India for Trade and India will help Afghanistan in making a dam.

I feel like proxy war has started now.

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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Oh this happened with me yesterday. On FB I denied some of their fake claims to which he asked to check neutral media and shared the same things we discussed here. I corrected him saying these say Pakistan claims to have done xxx, not independently verifying it. To which he replied that unless the opposite party accepts it's always a claim and since Pakistan hasn't accepted any loss except NurKhan airbase, hence India is also only claiming and that India never accepts even after losing everything hence it will never be conclusive.

I corrected him that India has provided evidence Pakistan didn't and that's why it's a proof of India and claim of Pakistan. But as expected he didn't believe.

They will always believe they won and nothing can change that


They are a delusional bunch and nothing we say or do can convince them otherwise. They are taught that Pak won every war, their books say that. And International media is totally biased towards Pakistan. How much ever proof you might give they will still sell the narrative of Pakistan. You know one of my cousin was in Spain for a few days and she was telling there people said India stopped water to Pak thats why Pak striked backsmiley44No awareness of Pakistan doing terrorism but India being aggressive towards it for no reason.

Look at Trump and IMF. Do they don't know about the horrific Pahalgam attack? What did they do? Did they condemn Pakistan? No they gave more loan to them to fund more terrorism. As long as its not affecting them, they are okay with Pakistan doing its terror activities as it will keep India's growth in check. Didn't they see Turkey openly supporting Pakistan for attacking India? Still Usa signed a huge missile deal with Turkey. Thats how it is. They don't care about what is right and wrong, they are just suiting their own interests and there is nothing India can do to change their perspective or actions. Most of them know what happened, their defence minister openly accepted harbouring terrorists, Pak army was in funeral with UN designated terrorist, but they are deliberately selling the wrong narrative. You can wake up someone who is sleeping not someone who is pretending to sleep. This whole Pahalgam attack, Op Sindoor and its coverage taught me, India doesn't have much support (apart from probably Russia and Israel who are themselves caught in wars) and its pretty much on its own. Only thing we need to concentrate is strengthening our country internally.

Edited by bhshre95 - 5 months ago
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Posted: 5 months ago

One thing I can't understand how this Pak people are blindly believing their media... They are mocking Indian all over Social media for the story told to them by their media atleast we have common sense to differentiate between reality and psychological war /rumours are they dumb enough can't they see the damage from their very own eyes...

Sukoor manao bach gaye aake Indians ko mock kar rahe ho..

They are mocking us for drinking gomutra and worshipping Cows jabki they are cow eaters...

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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Now I am sure it's a sinster troop against India

This post (see it here don't open or respond to it that will enhance) is from a guy with 250 followers and has reached 2 Million views.

Why is anti India getting so much traction

https://x.com/inficurious/status/1922618735535243743?t=Tzn3X2yMOmWORTkuerMkGg&s=19

Anti india or even pro india content gets a lot of traction on X because India ranks third in terms of the number of X users, with around 26 million users. So whenever someone says anything about india, it automatically gains traction. And if someone posts something anti india, indians often come together to give a befitting reply and falsify their narrative.

Thats whats happening here. Imean, look, the post has a reach of 2 million but only 4,000 likes. Thats just 0.02% engagement. So you can understand its only gaining visibility but people arent liking it because they don't see it as truthful. Also you can see how Indians are debunking this user’s chinese claims about arunachal pradesh.

Even you also gave one reach because its anti india but are you liking it?? No.

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Posted: 5 months ago

I wish some Indian billionaires buy some intl media channels or media so that Indian perspective is also presented without any bias

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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: suhaaana

Hey guys..

Apparently Afghan trucks can now enter India for Trade and India will help Afghanistan in making a dam.

I feel like proxy war has started now.

Wat about this ,Balochs only offering us


https://x.com/miryar_baloch/status/1923608095088873874?s=46&t=raeISQ_GJHRQslUoibooOw


for this US , China supporting pak .


Edited by Manavi_kesari - 5 months ago
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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: Swathi_7

Im okay with your views..but only thing I understood is that history is different for different people ..

I read views of different people yesterday from across the world

eg Israelis believe that Israelis were driven out of israel by arabs who all joined together..they say mass exodus happened ..but later israel fought against arabs and won over the war and then came back to occupy israel ..

But palestinenians deny that and say that NO arab war happened at all and arabs did not lose any war to israels at all ..they deny the very starting

See the difference..the same is happening to India vs Pak wars ..Indians despite have won on record, pak refuse to believe it and keep denying it and so are those people..it is going to be like this only..nobody can change it..

I believe the only war India should win is economic war and become leading independent nation and leave all these guys far behind..

Seems like a good explanation: Its loss only if one's faith is shaken.

https://www.youtube.com/live/fXMzKAOBXJs?si=56d9hUUYikzbx9gD&t=400

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