An analysis of Indian Force's actions against Pakistan#5/ DT Nt pg 17 - Page 8

Originally posted by: NathuPaapi

I saw this too. Muslims Guys in my college always flirted with Hindu girls but the muslims girls were given much respect and avoided flirting with. They wouldn't even like when other guys (hindu) would laugh & talk with them.

Simple hai.. inki hypocrisy ka koi end nahi hai.

Literally everything have been debunked proof but social media main chal raha hai wali army is celebrating , what a loser nation

https://x.com/detresfa_/status/1921862146356297761?t=YqOKidvIdJWyzfnKRZazWA&s=19

Who are these people... y they r roaming on IF spewing hate!

Originally posted by: NathuPaapi

You know the difference between the two countries. Germany accepts, feels guilty, and repents. However in case of Pakistan even the 1st step of acceptance is missing.

Generalizing is not always bad. If a certain locality is infamous for crime, it doesn't mean all the residents in that locality are criminally inclined. Although, I can't say about you, but I would never shift in that locality especially if I have a family. You can blame me for generalizing and urge me to shift there cos not all residents are criminals but I'll happily take the blame of generalizing but wouldn't take the risk of putting the safety of my family at risk by shifting there.

You've the c h o i c e to not shifting home, but in Pakistan it's now the 4th generation (or even the 5th one) that get subjected to a dictatorial government guided by military people, so, from generation to generation the youth (and then adults and parents themselves) got educated to hate India and even are used to infiltrate India to manipulate the thinking of Indian Muslims. Decades of sloppy politics' security measures from Indian governments' side (and not o n l y the 'liberal Congress') facilitated the intrusion of Islamic extremism.

It's the same in Germany. I posted some articles in the other thread that shows how Islamic extremism got the possibility to expand in a nation that should have learned from the own extremism in the own country (which now even have an important say in German politics - I talk about a German extreme right wing party).

In contrary to Germany, Pakistan was an artificially created country with religion as an already dividing factor (explicitely labeled as a land for the Muslims). Instead of making of whole India a confederation nation the line-drawing, the independance-preliminairies and the definite partition was arbitrarily done on the base of the people's religion Muslim-Hindu...it was the Britain's fault to accept it and the fault of the Indian leaders to even consider it.

Extremism thrives on dissatisfaction, unhappiness with what one lives and other frustrations. Extremism a l w a y s uses education to form a wished feeling in future generations through every means possible (e.g. religious education, distorting history in the syllabus, uniting groups to train them), getting violent against other people to vent own frustrations, disrespect other people for just being 'the other ones', creating an enemy-image, ratting out those who don't think the same way, etc.). All this had been done in dictatorial systems and got perfected through the centuries.

Governments who identify themselves through their religion and consider this religion the only one worth for the population, invariably will mix politics and religion. Governments who identify themselves through the race and consider their race the only one worth for the population, invariably will mix politics with racial thinking...and so on, and so on (one can put wealth, weapon power, personal greed, power position, ideology instead of religion or race) - all this is a thinking of 'excluding'.

An example for generalizing is that white skinned people feel superiour to coloured skinned people. There indeed was a time in history where this thinking prevailed but then, it became an excuse to exploit people with not-white skin even when noticing that white skin doesn't give superiority but, e.g. weapons and the possibility to use them to oppress others through fear, through violence, through terrorism.

Fear is the biggest obstacle to create a better world.

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These pak drones can get employement in blinkit and get some money from them.

https://x.com/coolfunnytshirt/status/1921867712793362596?t=e6bhXbRaYXSPuivGnHjG6A&s=19

Originally posted by: Clochette

You've the c h o i c e to not shifting home, but in Pakistan it's now the 4th generation (or even the 5th one) that get subjected to a dictatorial government guided by military people, so, from generation to generation the youth (and then adults and parents themselves) got educated to hate India and even are used to infiltrate India to manipulate the thinking of Indian Muslims. Decades of sloppy politics' security measures from Indian governments' side (and not o n l y the 'liberal Congress') facilitated the intrusion of Islamic extremism.

It's the same in Germany. I posted some articles in the other thread that shows how Islamic extremism got the possibility to expand in a nation that should have learned from the own extremism in the own country (which now even have an important say in German politics - I talk about a German extreme right wing party).

In contrary to Germany, Pakistan was an artificially created country with religion as an already dividing factor (explicitely labeled as a land for the Muslims). Instead of making of whole India a confederation nation the line-drawing, the independance-preliminairies and the definite partition was arbitrarily done on the base of the people's religion Muslim-Hindu...it was the Britain's fault to accept it and the fault of the Indian leaders to even consider it.

Extremism strives on dissatisfaction, unhappiness with what one lives and other frustrations. Extremism a l w a y s uses education to form a wished feeling in future generations through every means possible (e.g. religious education, distorting history in the syllabus, uniting groups to train them), getting violent against other people to vent own frustrations, disrespect other people for just being 'the other ones', creating an enemy-image, ratting out those who don't think the same way, etc.). All this had been done in dictatorial systems and got perfected through the centuries.

Governments who identify themselves through their religion and consider this religion the only one worth for the population, invariably will mix politics and religion. Governments who identify themselves through the race and consider their race the only one worth for the population, invariably will mix politics with racial thinking...and so on, and so on (one can put wealth, weapon power, personal greed, power position, ideology instead of religion or race) - all this is a thinking of 'excluding'.

An example for generalizing is that white skinned people feel superiour to coloured skinned people. There indeed was a time in history where this thinking prevailed but then, it became an excuse to exploit people with not-white skin even when noticing that white skin doesn't give superiority but, e.g. weapons and the possibility to use them to oppress others through fear, through violence, through terrorism.

Fear is the biggest obstacle to create a better world.

Your last line summarises my answer. If the ordinary Pakistani is so fearful of revolting against the system that has created a certain perception for them, then why should others take risk and leave their fear for Pakistanis?

Change should come in their society from within. And no-one else but they themselves can bring it. Till then it's no use accusing other people for generalizing them or harbouring certain phobias.

Originally posted by: OfTheHeart

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJhhUHSTTAw/?igsh=aTI3Y2xsdmNvOGpw

Unfortunately, false narratives is just lying or distorting or misconstruing or manipulating every information tool with which one can do it to sustain the own agenda...and inherent to humans. This relatively small world of this forum shows it constantly...SM has become a 'play-ground' for falsifying narratives and for certain systems (political or otherwise), it has become a survival strategy.

Originally posted by: OfTheHeart

Who are these people... y they r roaming on IF spewing hate!

They are the so called engagement of IF

Originally posted by: suhaaana

Pakistan has a lobby called congress here in India. Pakistan's own so called deep state.

The Indian Cogress party as the opposition has itself put into a very sad position through incompetence, stupidity and false moves. But calling them "deep state" as if acting for the Pakistani government's goals is - imo - exaggerated and done to make its position even weaker for future elections.