YRKKH BTS, SM updates & Spoilers Thread #115 - Page 109

Originally posted by: ShadowImbue

@bold Vidya mata is Abhira's abuser (Abhira doesn't "feel bad" because of abuse doesn't mean VV wasn't abusive towards Abhira ever). She physically hurt Abhira, cursed Abhira for infertility, physically pushed her during IR and traumatized her in believing that she deprived Armaan of his happiness to have a child. Not only this she took promise from her Armaan to take revenge on his Abhira for sending her to jail for the crime, she herself committed, even though Abhira bailed her out of jail (still the biggest mistake of Abhira's life), then she character assassinated Armaan's wife Abhira several times. Armaan was discussing Abhira/Pookie/Daksh's matters with same woman while having "champi". Did he forget his own words for Vidya "maa aisi hoti hai?". Same Vidya who deprived Armaan's of his mother's love all his life, was giving certificate of "careful mother" to Abhira and implanted seed of doubt regarding Abhira being careless with Pookie and he actually believed Vidya's words! Woh toh Ruhi the best character in universe these days told Armaan to stop doubting Abhira.

And no matter what Vidya did or said, Abhira was an adult capable of standing up for herself and giving it back …she chose not to …she could have and should have walked out long ago ..she did not ..,

Armaan was a child victim …he was duped by a woman in the name of maternal love and another in the name of gratitude and guilt ..he endured close to thirty years of abuse …

To compare an adult man’s trauma that is a. consequence of childhood conditioning with an adult woman’s refusal to stand up for herself is not a fair comparison as per me .:.of course you can choose to disagree

And to set the record straight, I have nowhere justified Armaan talking to Vidya or Kaveri …my simple point was Armaan’s relationship with Vidya is far too complicated and complex …she is his abuser and she is also his mother who accepted him as an orphan and she is also the mother of the brother who just died…far too complex a situation to draw simple inferences ..!

Originally posted by: Scarlett24

I believe he is only being cordial with her because she lost Rohit. I think there will be a time he will tell her off after her constant ‘tu hi mera Rohit hai’ jaap

I also think so but yes I feel he will snap very hard at her once again as he himself has realized that she treats him as Rohit's replacement and not as Armaan himself. Today, he told her off that he can't do much about the triangle drama

Originally posted by: Naysayer

you are just saying the same thing more elaborately …my question was just this …does Armaan’s wrong justify Abhira’s wrong ?

And no matter what Vidya did or said, Abhira was an adult capable of standing up for herself and giving it back …she chose not to …she could have and should have walked out long ago ..she did not ..,

Armaan was a child victim …he was duped by a woman in the name of maternal love and another in the name of gratitude and guilt ..he endured close to thirty years of abuse …

To compare an adult man’s trauma that is a. consequence of childhood conditioning with an adult woman’s refusal to stand up for herself is not a fair comparison as per me .:.of course you can choose to disagree

And to set the record straight, I have nowhere justified Armaan talking to Vidya or Kaveri …my simple point was Armaan’s relationship with Vidya is far too complicated and complex …she is his abuser and she is also his mother who accepted him as an orphan and she is also the mother of the brother who just died…far too complex a situation to draw simple inferences ..!

Wow. Now you are not trivialising Abhira s trauma or abuse she faced?

Originally posted by: Agni_Jytsona

Wow. Now you are not trivialising Abhira s trauma or abuse she faced?

I guess that's sums it up and ADULT WOMAN s trauma will never as important as an ADULT MAN

Originally posted by: Naysayer

if you think that questioning an adult woman for not being willing to stand up to a bully implies trivialising, then so be it 🤷🏻‍♀️

So, only Armaan s trauma is trauma. While Abhira 's trauma is not trauma? Am I getting it right?

Originally posted by: Agni_Jytsona

So, only Armaan s trauma is trauma. While Abhira 's trauma is not trauma? Am I getting it right?

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Originally posted by: Naysayer

bang on

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Thanks for that matter. Finally my point that this forum is ML biased has been proven right once for all.

Originally posted by: Agni_Jytsona

What did you think of Armaan sharing his concern about Abhira as a mother, with a woman who cursed Abhira for fertility issues?

Equally stupid IMO and I am assuming many of us have called him out for that. But I will say one thing. Vidya has apologised to Abhira and to Armaan for the way she has treated them atleast a few times. Though she has behaved horribly towards them, but atleast she felt remorse for her actions.

When has Kaveri felt any kind d of remorse for her actions for Abhira to allow her so much leeway? In fact, wasn't Kaveri one of the main reasons for Abhira signing those divorce papers in the first place when Kaveri taunted her for her infertility in front of an entire audience and media? She for got all that and still asked that same woman if she would be a good mother. So yeah both miya biwi are equally stupid to still be in this madhouse after how each and everyone if them has treated them like shit at one point or the other. Armaan was definitely right in one thing - Poddar house is a daldal that really pulls you in and makes you do stuff you ideally never should

Originally posted by: Apsvenky

Equally stupid IMO and I am assuming many of us have called him out for that. But I will say one thing. Vidya has apologised to Abhira and to Armaan for the way she has treated them atleast a few times. Though she has behaved horribly towards them, but atleast she felt remorse for her actions.

When has Kaveri felt any kind d of remorse for her actions for Abhira to allow her so much leeway? In fact, wasn't Kaveri one of the main reasons for Abhira signing those divorce papers in the first place when Kaveri taunted her for her infertility in front of an entire audience and media? She for got all that and still asked that same woman if she would be a good mother. So yeah both miya biwi are equally stupid to still be in this madhouse after how each and everyone if them has treated them like shit at one point or the other. Armaan was definitely right in one thing - Poddar house is a daldal that really pulls you in and makes you do stuff you ideally never should

No. Nobody called Armaan out for his Vidya s conversation on this forum. In X. Yes. Here. No.