YRKKH BTS, SM updates & Spoilers Thread #115 - Page 108

Originally posted by: chabalas

Armaan needs to be called out for his talk with Vidya but also Armaan dint share his concerns willingly to Vidya, it was slip of tongue from his side and it was clearly shown in the episode. After that as well he defended Abhira saying she dint do it purposely. He intentionally dint go to Vidya to discuss about Abhira's ability to be a mother.

Having said that, I absolutely dislike his any interaction with Vidya and I wish he stayed away from her like he does with Kaveri.

I believe he is only being cordial with her because she lost Rohit. I think there will be a time he will tell her off after her constant ‘tu hi mera Rohit hai’ jaap

Originally posted by: Scarlett24

Because there is history now, he has lost a child. Not everyone deals with grief the same way before anyone comes with ‘Abhira is not behaving so’

Abhira literally made a timetable for Ruhi, when/what to eat , when to sleep, when to exercise. Today she herself checked the car, so when Armaan does it it is annoying

Yeah well guess your grief does not gives you right to use your spouse deepest insecurities as a weapon against her

Originally posted by: Naysayer

there is a difference ..Armaan is the victim in both cases…Abhira is not …so Armaan was talking to his abuser..and sad as it is, victims share weird relations with their abusers.. while Abhira is talking to the woman who victimised her husband

Rest I absolutely despise Armaan for having any kind of relationship with Vidya or Kaveri …

Abhira is Vidya s victim. Vidya was the one to give her most shit about her fertility issues.

So Armaan sharing his views about Abhira s motherhood with same woman is just as bad if not more.

Originally posted by: chabalas

I disagree on the part that Armaan happily danced or celebrated Kaveri's birthday because he was clearly aloof all through the party and immediately stepped away from dance when she came in middle. He had first piece of cake only after Abhira nudging him and not willingly. He told Abhira clearly that he wasn't interested in celebrating Kaveri's birthday the previous night and was also not very happy with her helping Vidya.

Having said all this, I would say he should have been more persistent in his no and should have stayed away. He was shown to be behaving very indifferently with Kaveri right from when they came back to Poddar House.

@bold Armaan is an individual, Abhira also requested him to relax when it comes to Pookie but does he? His inner turmoil doesn't let him be relaxed, he doesn't listen to Abhira regarding this matter. If he wanted he could've avoided and negated Abhira's request of attending birthday party or having cake from KP, infact he could've asked valid questions to Abhira that
"how can you forget about the injustice towards my mother who supported you?" (Abhira would've been easily guilt-tripped and flipped back of sunaofying KP) the way he negated Abhira's perspective over Kiara's matter as Armaan when he knows he is right, he won't budge even a bit on Abhira's insistence. I even disliked Abhira's lecture to KP before her birthday party but KP wronged Armaan the most, he must stay firm on his stand against KP. Even against Vidya mata.

Originally posted by: Naysayer

I have already called Armaan out for that .. so does it make it right that Abhira should be discussing his trauma and state of mind with his abuser ..really ?

A victim and an unconnected party to the crime are to be judged the same way in terms of their responses ? …Trauma works in strange ways and survivors have their own challenges including their inability to completely emerge from toxic relationships ..let us not trivialise their trauma…!

@bold Vidya mata is Abhira's abuser (Abhira doesn't "feel bad" because of abuse doesn't mean VV wasn't abusive towards Abhira ever). She physically hurt Abhira, cursed Abhira for infertility, physically pushed her during IR and traumatized her in believing that she deprived Armaan of his happiness to have a child. Not only this she took promise from her Armaan to take revenge on his Abhira for sending her to jail for the crime, she herself committed, even though Abhira bailed her out of jail (still the biggest mistake of Abhira's life), then she character assassinated Armaan's wife Abhira several times. Armaan was discussing Abhira/Pookie/Daksh's matters with same woman while having "champi". Did he forget his own words for Vidya "maa aisi hoti hai?". Same Vidya who deprived Armaan's of his mother's love all his life, was giving certificate of "careful mother" to Abhira and implanted seed of doubt regarding Abhira being careless with Pookie and he actually believed Vidya's words! Woh toh Ruhi the best character in universe these days told Armaan to stop doubting Abhira.

Abhira has been bullied, abused, and even cursed over her fertility issues

But when she showed even little amount of fear, anxiety or reaction due trauma people here called her "insane" "baccha obsessed" and "regressive"

Was that not trivialising her trauma?

But when it comes to Armaan we should be all understanding even though he is absolutely horrible to his wife

Why this double standards when it comes to Abhira and Armaan s trauma?

Originally posted by: Naysayer

Abhira sharing her concerns about her husband with the woman who alienated him from his birth mother and dumped him in an orphanage ..and then subjected him to trauma and manipulation all his life

I love Abhira but I swear to god that will never stop being ironic to me atleast

Originally posted by: Apsvenky

I love Abhira but I swear to god that will never stop being ironic to me atleast

What did you think of Armaan sharing his concern about Abhira as a mother, with a woman who cursed Abhira for fertility issues?

Originally posted by: ShadowImbue

@bold Armaan is an individual, Abhira also requested him to relax when it comes to Pookie but does he? His inner turmoil doesn't let him be relaxed, he doesn't listen to Abhira regarding this matter. If he wanted he could've avoided and negated Abhira's request of attending birthday party or having cake from KP, infact he could've asked valid questions to Abhira that
"how can you forget about the injustice towards my mother who supported you?" (Abhira would've been easily guilt-tripped and flipped back of sunaofying KP) the way he negated Abhira's perspective over Kiara's matter as Armaan when he knows he is right, he won't budge even a bit on Abhira's insistence. I even disliked Abhira's lecture to KP before her birthday party but KP wronged Armaan the most, he must stay firm on his stand against KP. Even against Vidya mata.

As I said, yes he needs to be more persistent about his stance of staying away from Kaveri but he is shown to be aloof most of the times. He willingly isn't going near her and has twice shown to be talking about how Kaveri wronged his mother and so he wants to stay away from her. I disagreed with your comment about - he happily celebrated at her birthday party because he dint and it was clearly visible in the episode.

Both Abhira and Armaan are equally adamant about their decisions. Yes, rarely they give in to each other but both have their own stands. Kiara's matter, again both were adamant and Armaan gave in only after Kiara requesting him one last chance and her right to take a decision about her marriage.