Illegal Wife - Page 4

Originally posted by: Phir_Mohabbat

if this post is another countless abhimanyu bashing topic so this reply will be a waste. obsession dont divert from gen3 lmao one constant this forum has along with temple run for fls

if anyone interested in actual law they can google rather than talking out of ass/mocking dead character. no one said because of abhir's case vidya/madhav/shivani drama needs to happen bt people mind works in mysterious ways. aliens cant process these loads of informations

as per law whatever i can google in 2 mins+reddit legal advise

if someone missing for 7 years they will be declared dead

along with missing person report, they would need to file for death certificate too. i am assuming madhav /poddars did that when they were in hurry to marry this guy to vidya

for bigamy its actually the man who goes to jail-

• Anyone found guilty of a second marriage without giving divorce will be treated as guilty of this criminal act under Section 494 of the Indian Penal Code and will be punished with 7 – 10 years of imprisonment along with a fine.

https://www.ezylegal.in/blogs/can-there-be-a-second-marriage-without-divorce

also for second wives:

under Section 24, the Hindu Marriage Act, has been broadened by courts to encompass the rights of second wives. Additionally, the Hindu Adoption and Maintenance Act of 1956 allows second wives to claim interim maintenance.

https://www.thelawadvice.com/articles/legal-status-of-second-marriage-and-rights-of-second-wife

also

https://lawbeat.in/news-updates/delhi-high-court-validity-second-marriage-hindu-marriage-act

The Delhi High Court has in a significant ruling clarified on the validity of second marriages under the Hindu Marriage Act, of 1955. High Court has emphasized that when either of the parties has a living spouse, their consent cannot confer validity on a second marriage.

if shivani was dead she dont hv to consent. if no consent then there is no question illegal wife lmao

apart from this, as of now if madhav wants to stay with one wife vidya/shivani can file for divorce to uncomplicate things

apart from serial. irl in our society and many MLA Mps have 2-3 wives. we can argue morality but it will be stretch to say those spouse and their kids are also illegal/illegitimate. the fascination of terming vidya/rohit , ruhi and their kid is disgusting. lets not get into what was illegal in the show, we will be here for days and gen4 current leads will also come under fire.

and who said abhimanyu didnt change birth certificate or whatever? that was a court case and abhir had stayed with him. how in his passport it was abhinav's name is a mystery show can solve. also abhinav was an orphan, as mentioned multiple times in forum, an orphan dont have any surname- it can be kumar etc but not a surname which comes from our mother/fathers side. so whos the illegal in the show?

i am not a lawyer like other wannabes in forum. if anyone wants to argue..i dont see the reason lmao the show will go on as it wants

tagging a few folks in case they have anything to add. dont want to hijack a bashing only topic, i can see edt and bts threads arent being suitable for proper akhada chap kusti but new topic is needed. bored with abhi abhi ruhi ye woh falana

So ro is legit as per Hindu marriage act ..rest already has been explained .

As a woman I have full sympathy with vani bl, but law needs evidence

If madhav wants vani he has to divorce v and the remarry vani and change his dept records.

Hindu marriage act if vani files under she will get compensation..else she has to prove with credible evidence that kavu and vidya had evidence of her being alive at the time of marriage and the death certificate is fake ..she has to prove why she was silent for 30 years..they have not co habited for so long so chances that she gets legal status is iffy

If death certificate is said to be legal..first she has to make herself alive legally..

Many people have already given enough information but wanted to add my two cents. The thing with legality and rights is that you can’t simply come muh utake one day to claim it.. There’s a time limit for everything..

Madhav married Vidya legally after submitting death certificate of Shivani so he isn’t a bigamist.. If Shivani wanted her rights she should’ve asked for them within 7 years as after that their relationship becomes void. But that didn’t happen. Even if Shivani was alive was she mentally stable? No. And that again nullifies their marriage..

Kaveri might be convicted for fraud but it won’t change the status quo of Madhav Vidya relationship. It’s been more than 30 years of marriages and no law can call it illegal “now”.. And iss show mein criminals are hailed for their crimes.. Acharaa se badi criminal toh koi hai nahi. If she didn’t go to jail koi nahi jaane wala..

Also I read this line that Rohit and Kiara expect that they should be applauded for their sacrifice and they don’t give a damn about others feelings.. Firstly they never expected and even if they did what’s wrong in it? It takes guts to sacrifice which crappy flipping experts like Armaan, Abheera and Charu can never understand. And when leads selfish acts can be deemed as selfless and hailed toh yeh kyu nahi..

Rohit left PH when Delulu screamed at the top of voice and declared he can never move on from his chitwali and can never fall for Abheera.. Rohit loved his brother and didn’t want to be a third wheel.. And not once but twice. He gave up his kid until clown started risking baby’s life.. Ab Ar gadha hai isme Rohit ki kya galti..

And Charu faked mahanta, openly rejected Abhir even ran away from her wedding but she should be hailed for her turu lob.. Kiara since day one fought for Abhir, when she got to know about Abhiru happily sacrificed and completely cut her off.. Unlike Abheera who claimed she sacrificed her love but purposefully became the wedding planner, never left a chance to chipkofy with the groom, shamelessly dreamt of getting pregnant with him and even went on to propose him…

Kiara and Rohit respected their boundaries and sacrificed for their siblings. Ar and Charu took that for granted and never respected it. Ar lost Ruhi and baby and Charu lost Abhir. His life would’ve been hell had he married her just like Abheera’s..

Originally posted by: ShadowImbue

Shivani didn't die and KP sent her to ashram alongwith Armaan, Madhav couldn't find Armaan when he gained consciousness after accident. Shivani's fake death certificate was shown to him, Madhav believed it without investigating further. KP got Madhav married to Vidya knowing Shivani is alive. KP is a key witness of Shivani being alive, despite the fake death certificate she created. KP is also a witness of bigamy.

Madhav didn't get married to Vidya after 7 years of Shivani's disappearance whereas Shivani's death certificate was fake.. KP can be imprisoned for lifetime for creating fake death certificate of Shivani. Madhav and Vidya's marriage is null and void according to law (if death certificate wasn't forged and there wasn't a common witness of Shivani being alive and Madhav-Vidya's wedding, it could still be considered legal). Rohit is illegitimate son of Madhav and Vidya. Vidya is not a Poddar. She has created an illusion of perfection around her. Vidya mata has surpassed all other characters in her obsession for a man. The way this hypocrite girgit reacted, character assassinated Ab and Ak over Ar-Ab's deal marriage, which was legally valid is appalling. Vidya being an accomplice in KP's planning and plotting can also be legally punished. But then she will faint saying maine jaan bujh kar nahi kiya. I've given so many years to this house blah blah.

Vidya mata is a parmanent character (despite being disliked by majority yrkkh viewers, TRP is a proof of it). KP is also a parmanent character, but they both are criminals. Can't say much about writer's narrative but Ar-Ab doing "hum sath sath hain" or "kabhi khushi kabhi ghum" with these two women in future will be too gross.

Wow Now We know that Rohit n Armaan Poddar were actually carrying forward their khaandani legacy of forgery n fraud during that track It's in their genes n upbringing Man KP n Vidya really gave the Bhest to both their grandsons n sons respectively

Madhav's so called Legacy of being coward (Rohit) n two-timer spineless n ultimate self victimization expert(Armaan) was carried forward by both of his useless sons

Now the khandaan k chiraags are competing to beat their dear Dadisa in doing criminal kaands

Let's see till the end who manages to win KPsa's Toffee by doing maximum vile n criminal kaands n still manages to live like a victim just like Vidya n Madhav

Toffeemaan's mom is really unlucky her son turned out to be totally like her Ghatiya Saas Sautan n nikkamma Pati

Though I don't watch the show but still everyday there are written updates on my TL so know the nonsense ongoing story n Can't really say who will be illegal wife Since the shows cvs in this gen have some real obsession with whitewashing All Poddars (subject to exceptions ) specially KP Vidya n Armaan n turning them into victims by tapkofying tassuye for 3-4 days or screeching Maybe one fine day they'll turn the poor female into someone worse than Vidya n KP n show how she deserved everything this pathetic females did to her

Originally posted by: Dora-cakes

Wow Now We know that Rohit n Armaan Poddar were actually carrying forward their khaandani legacy of forgery n fraud during that track It's in their genes n upbringing Man KP n Vidya really gave the Bhest to both their grandsons n sons respectively

Madhav's so called Legacy of being coward (Rohit) n two-timer spineless n ultimate self victimization expert(Armaan) was carried forward by both of his useless sons

Now the khandaan k chiraags are competing to beat their dear Dadisa in doing criminal kaands

Let's see till the end who manages to win KPsa's Toffee by doing maximum vile n criminal kaands n still manages to live like a victim just like Vidya n Madhav

Toffeemaan's mom is really unlucky her son turned out to be totally like her Ghatiya Saas Sautan n nikkamma Pati

Though I don't watch the show but still everyday there are written updates on my TL so know the nonsense ongoing story n Can't really say who will be illegal wife Since the shows cvs in this gen have some real obsession with whitewashing All Poddars (subject to exceptions ) specially KP Vidya n Armaan n turning them into victims by tapkofying tassuye for 3-4 days or screeching Maybe one fine day they'll turn the poor female into someone worse than Vidya n KP n show how she deserved everything this pathetic females did to her

Originally posted by: Manny_123

Whether laws are lenient or not depending on the country, fraud is a fraud. Clearly she forged the birth certificate and accomplice was bhinav who was well aware of the fact. In the case of Akshara she would have been definitely penalized along with Abhinav as Abhimanyu could have ensured safety and affection to Abhir as a parent. He was not a threat to the child. Plus he was deprived of fatherhood and son was decived due to her personal reasons. If it were an actual case those fraudsters would have got their punishment. I have read a case in foreign country about a BC fraud where mother did it in hatred for her ex husband. Mother recieved 8 month imprisonment and partner received 6 month imprisonment for deception.

So there is nothing hail the fraudster couple for. It is a crime which makers didn't try to underscore much as it was done by FL of the show.

Exactly a fraud is a fraud which jamwali n her puppet husband did more so to take revenge from Abhimanyu as how dare he not became a puppet to Akshara n showed her reality..Those who defend this fraud wants Vidya to be punished as she committed a crime..What a joke n hypocrisy 🤣

Akshara behaved like as if Abhimanyu sexually abused her n she was a victim when in reality if Abhimanyu was at fault so was Akshara but sad thing is Abhimanyu had shame n grace enough to accept his faults n apologise for it unlike Mrs Sharma who in her ego n revenge never introspected her actions n never thought that her over efficiency did cause deaths n o ly she was responsible for it..

Originally posted by: Jhanak1234

Things are complicated here.... Even if somewhere is alive and others person get married.. that's thing only null and void for certain years lmax to 7 years. If you live with someone for May years as husband and wife ( even you never got married as per Hindu rituals) still yours marriage consider legal....

Their others laws as well for husband and wife status in others condition... society status matter too, they never saw anybody other than Vidya as Madhav wife so that will impact too...

.so right now only Vidya is Madhav. Untill and unless Madhav divorce her or atleast they have to go to court to make their marriage null(this thing not happened after many years) ... Only divorce is last option..

Exactly. How difficult was it for kaveri to get death certificate ? She still got it so if shivani was presumed dead, she's dead in records toh she cannot also file the bigamy case. ( just as dadisa got abhiman divorced but both were not aware , still divorce was legal & valid ). The person in question I.e. madhav wasn't aware his 1st wife is alive ..

So in any scenario, vidya can't be the illegitimate wife & rohit ka toh there's no ques bec even children born out of wedlock are now not seen as illegitimate

See kaveri poddar kept calling hum sautela it's bec she never accepted madhavs first marriage, that doesn't mean arman was sautela & it's madhav who should've shut up kaveri & defended his son which he never did ..later on arman can also ques madhav & shut up kaveri but he was grateful to her for taking him. It's so twisted ke it's foolish now..why was he quietly taking all the abuse when he was a well established lawyer very much capable of protecting his and his mother's dignity ? Same case with abhira .

Ab shivani is madhavs first wife but not his legitimate wife, he has to divorce one of them if he wants that person . Simple . There is no legality involved here , vidya can be the only one claiming the wife tag. (That's another story ke it's for madhav so that in itself is laughable)

Originally posted by: Krinya

Exactly. How difficult was it for kaveri to get death certificate ? She still got it so if shivani was presumed dead, she's dead in records toh she cannot also file the bigamy case. ( just as dadisa got abhiman divorced but both were not aware , still divorce was legal & valid ). The person in question I.e. madhav wasn't aware his 1st wife is alive ..

So in any scenario, vidya can't be the illegitimate wife & rohit ka toh there's no ques bec even children born out of wedlock are now not seen as illegitimate

See kaveri poddar kept calling hum sautela it's bec she never accepted madhavs first marriage, that doesn't mean arman was sautela & it's madhav who should've shut up kaveri & defended his son which he never did ..later on arman can also ques madhav & shut up kaveri but he was grateful to her for taking him. It's so twisted ke it's foolish now..why was he quietly taking all the abuse when he was a well established lawyer very much capable of protecting his and his mother's dignity ? Same case with abhira .

Ab shivani is madhavs first wife but not his legitimate wife, he has to divorce one of them if he wants that person . Simple . There is no legality involved here , vidya can be the only one claiming the wife tag. (That's another story ke it's for madhav so that in itself is laughable)

Kaveri poddar is such a mysterious character. She was so against phupha sa forging a divorce document but herself made a fake death certificate of Shivani. Why??

She has always been open about her plans . Divorce papers, prenup agreement, 2nd divorce. Why is she so secretive about Shivani??

Originally posted by: Krinya

Exactly. How difficult was it for kaveri to get death certificate ? She still got it so if shivani was presumed dead, she's dead in records toh she cannot also file the bigamy case. ( just as dadisa got abhiman divorced but both were not aware , still divorce was legal & valid ). The person in question I.e. madhav wasn't aware his 1st wife is alive ..

So in any scenario, vidya can't be the illegitimate wife & rohit ka toh there's no ques bec even children born out of wedlock are now not seen as illegitimate

See kaveri poddar kept calling hum sautela it's bec she never accepted madhavs first marriage, that doesn't mean arman was sautela & it's madhav who should've shut up kaveri & defended his son which he never did ..later on arman can also ques madhav & shut up kaveri but he was grateful to her for taking him. It's so twisted ke it's foolish now..why was he quietly taking all the abuse when he was a well established lawyer very much capable of protecting his and his mother's dignity ? Same case with abhira .

Ab shivani is madhavs first wife but not his legitimate wife, he has to divorce one of them if he wants that person . Simple . There is no legality involved here , vidya can be the only one claiming the wife tag. (That's another story ke it's for madhav so that in itself is laughable)

It's really laughable that Cv come up with theirs own term.

Like dadisa calling Armaan sautela ( because you can't be sautela of your dada and dadi, your other relatives until and unless you father was different)

Who called own biological grandson SAUTELA... height of illogical..

Arman only have sautela - step relationship with Vidya and Rohit. Others are all his blood relative.

Shivani or Vidya who is the legal wife 🤔 Kya farak padtha hai ....Already they are middle aged not going to produce any more children ...The way Madavji standing without any " anger or resentment" looks like both women wasted their life dotting on him...

When will they stop these " golden age triangle"