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Posted: 7 months ago

Originally posted by: sanfan

You have a point dear and in an ideal situation where the writer was sensible I would have said it’s only an act and this is where it is ideally headed becos so far they have shown Ani to have a blind spot on this. I have always maintained that the Gordian knot of moral dilemma would have to be cut by Jhanak not Ani cos him doing it on his own doesn’t deliver Jhanak from her stupid inhibitions… so she would have to be the person to recognise what is happening if at all..

But this is Leena we are dealing with and she has added the new complication of Vihaan and baby and household and Chandni is such a shifty actor or the direction she is receiving on this that pathetic that the scenes mostly seem like ww which all have been complaining about.. initially I didn’t pay as much attention to this cos Didi was flipping like crazy like a yo-yo between batshit crazy and then bechari but this new roop of which I saw a glimpse after reading the WU… has unfortunately given me renewed hope ( I know it will be dashed to the ground soon 😂😂) the only place I got a hint was when she told her mom - don’t interfere in my relationship with Ani - there’s a way she says - it which can be easily taken to mean - mom you now stay out of it… your advice has been useless - I can now deal with this a lot better now and get back my Ani where I want him!! It’s a split second expression but it’s the same Arshi that I saw at that cafe shop post Avinash coming to see J and Ani stomping off in a rage -

The issue with Leena is for the sake of episode count she has elongated this characterisation of Arshi to make she by turns stupid, evil, shifty, crazy, bechari ( unbelievable though )

@bold: LOL I was just referencing the same in my post above as well. As per Leena's writing standards, Arshi's current behavior is not an act....this is her ATTEMPT at what she THINKS is "being good for the sake of her kid"....I don't see any true realization/remorse....but also not enough self-awareness or introspection to manage to realize it's a shallow act.

This is Leena's definition of Arshi supposedly having goodness inside her that manifests in the right atmosphere but then she is "pushed" to be evil/depraved again when she feels she is losing Ani to Jhanak in this "competition".

But I still don't see any sign overall of her wanting to truly atone....this is all just an exercise in continuing to keep her hold on Ani and tighten it using the baby while making "allowances" for his concern for Jhanak. Chandni isn't expected to act more than this (neither is she capable of it) cuz writers haven't written any more depth in Arshi beyond this....isi mindless shallowness mein sab khush hain

She is extremely lucky that Jhanak is just as much a bimbo as her cooking up elaborate plans to hide in Vihaan's house playing fake wife as a way to escape imaginary murder chargesmiley36.....

Edited by AreYaar - 7 months ago
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Posted: 7 months ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: LOL I was just referencing the same in my post above as well. As per Leena's writing standards, Arshi's current behavior is not an act....this is her ATTEMPT at what she THINKS is "being good for the sake of her kid"....I don't see any true realization/remorse....but also not enough self-awareness or introspection to manage to realize it's a shallow act.

This is Leena's definition of Arshi supposedly having goodness inside her that manifests in the right atmosphere but then she is "pushed" to be evil/depraved again when she feels she is losing Ani to Jhanak in this "competition".

But I still don't see any sign overall of her wanting to truly atone....this is all just an exercise in continuing to keep her hold on Ani and tighten it using the baby while making "allowances" for his concern for Jhanak. Chandni isn't expected to act more than this (neither is she capable of it) cuz writers haven't written any more depth in Arshi beyond this....isi mindless shallowness mein sab khush hain

She is extremely lucky that Jhanak is just as much a bimbo as her cooking up elaborate plans to hide in Vihaan's house playing fake wife as a way to escape imaginary murder chargesmiley36.....

Completely agree

Arshi ki oversmartness is only matched by her half sister’s stupidity who can choose a life in a jail outside jail 😂😂🤦🏻‍♀️ Shristi ke do anmol ratna!! smiley37smiley37

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Posted: 7 months ago

I won’t say I’m in the minority…because I’ve talked to others who have similar views…I just think those that have different views from this chat (or x) in particular are silent…because there is no point to get into a space that looks difficult to enter. But I couldn’t help but want to share my thoughts today. So, Here are my thought.

1. I like Jhanak and Vihaan actually. If we are being honest, their format is actually the basic template for couple characters in any show. I believe that audience won’t find it hard to migrate…especially when people start comparing Bose house to this one…and there is the baby too..plus I don’t believe Vihaan is bad at all. I think that he has experienced loss is a great complement to Jhanak who has similar experiences.

2. There is the issue of sidelining Ani….which isn’t necessarily true. I feel like makers are setting it up to be two-couple. And I feel like this doesn’t erase that the title of this show is Jhanak. It enhances it….its not Ani and Jhanak…it’s Jhanak meeting people along the way in her life, important or not. Aniruddh would always be important to her as he was her first love - his character is allowed to be someone she can recall fondly as she grows. And Jhanak is just 21, meaning there are years ahead of her.

3. Arshi. Arshi has been the primary obstacle between Ani and Jhanak….the character has been complex because she is right in some places and wrong in others - just like the two leads are. None has not done something that is not morally ambiguous and someone looking in could question - but the main gripe people have with arshi is her actions to Ani that led to her pregnancy and to me, her inability to follow through with good decisions. In my opinion, Arshi is someone who seeks validation from others and so she is easily prodded by her mom and she also doesn’t seem to have an inherent self of stability or order except from Ani. There was no way she was going to be the mature person who was going to let go of Ani easily…and when it seemed like she had no choice but to leave, her pregnancy brought her back. Despite saying she wanted revenge, she switched immediately after the marriage. That will be discussed below.

4. It is the honest truth that whether you agree with anyone’s character or not, to say Arshi doesn’t love Ani isn’t true. You can say she is not the one he wants to love him. You can say she isn’t loving right. You can’t say there is no love from her side and neither can you say there WAS no love from ani’s side as the show established. What this means is that rekindling from both isn’t impossible because there was a time of earth it was both ways for eight years - which is A LONG time. When I watched Arshi’s scene at the party last night, I couldn’t stomach it. It felt too strange and greasy and in my head, I said she is doing something useless again. But when I saw her scene with shristi and Tanuja, I felt much better. As a viewer, I felt arshi had lost potential by not leaving ani and listening to her mother. So whatever the future is, it felt better to see her make a good decision and not some useless drama.

5. It seems they want to switch Arshi and her reason is sound. She is having a kid and she might be thinking a lot, even if not to really be good, but just at least to be good in her child’s eyes. If Arshi can take it a step further and tell Ani what she did and talk with him, in my opinion, it doesn’t matter if he goes to Jhanak and she leaves or whatever, for some reason, Arshi is not going to end up badly even if she is alone.

6. The real villain to me is Shristi (she was a bad mom to both and is not good) as well as concepts of class and ‘what it means to be good’. If ITV were realistic, this show would have us end with some philosophical understanding that people make mistakes, people change, people meet and separate. I would wish that arshi could be placed as a tool to spear Shristi’s side because when she finally turns against her (like Ani had wished), Shristi would finally lose everything. It would be cool to see Arshi work with Jhanak to expose her - because not even arshi is safe from her and if makers keep arshi with this sort of awareness, the idealized ‘version of love’ between ani and Jhanak is going to keep losing staying power.

6. It might hit hard but in my opinion, Aniruddh is very predictable. He so obviously has a type he caters too. He was with arshi for 8 years and knowing her, he loved her regardless and must have put up with her biases because of his emotions. Note that his reservations about her didn’t stop him from dating her, buying a ring and kneeling to propose (I assume he’s the one that did lol). Then he met Jhanak and it was like everything changed. But everything didn’t….he just met someone who had values he had that arshi didn’t have, but that didn’t mean he had to love her. The key was that Arshi seemed to amplify her biases with Jhanak around and even though in my opinion, Aniruddh’s deceit came through here, it’s fact that we can assume that if arshi had acted the opposite of what she did from the start, Ani wouldn’t have liked Jhanak. That’s what the show has established. It’s not that Ani didn’t love Arshi, it’s that her actions pushed him away. If this same Arshi starts doing the right things with a baby on the way, I’m sorry to say but Aniruddh doesn’t cut me as the guy that wouldn’t grow into happiness over time. That’s why I have been starting to think of the title ‘Jhanak’ more often these days and how makers meant it when they said it was about her and her journey to dance rulership…Ani, arshi, Appu, shristi, viaan, bose house…in the end, they are all people she met on the way and that made her become a better person than she was, whether through the joy or trials they gave her

7. Then again, I could be doing too much. This is ITV and it’s common for makers (and audience) to rush and throw deep themes for something surface level. If everyone was calm and makers were credible, it would be simple. For example, I would like arshi to be punished after birth. I would like shristi to frame her for something (in order not to be in jail) or at least promise to help her out if she takes blame only to blame her in public…I’m here for punishment scenes, I’m here for discussions between ani and arshi and Jhanak and vihaan….i don’t even dig trp well but I’m telling you trp would be crazy…can you imagine what amazing writing that would look like…gosh im wishing too much now…but oh well I just wanted to write.

I’m a writer and there was a time I used to love Runak, I even wrote fanfiction of them but for some reason, as time went the story kept making the leads look so bad. At one point, I wondered if we would just discover that Jhanak was intentionally acting this way and I was frustrated with Arshi’s stupid actions as well as Aniruddh’s inability to reflect on his own person. The only person I even liked was shristi because she was bad and she was solidly bad. Because I write, I can’t handle badly written characters. There was only so much the good looks of Aniruddh and jhanak could do for me (And as hard it might be to some of you to hear, the truth is that Arshi is also attractive and at least, if she doesn’t say something stupid, she doesn’t look bad beside Ani. Therefore, despite anyone’s feelings, that pair doesn’t feel hard on the eyes either in the looks department. And I don’t even think vihaan is unattractive, so to me, all the four I have my eyes on look good in my eyes).

Now, I finally saw the promos and returned, I’m keeping my fingers crossed for whether this would be the usual or not.

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Posted: 7 months ago

Originally posted by: Dibya_C

...most importantly, Arshi didi, if ends up being goody goody, without dying, the show will anyway die! It's clear from SM buzz that even if J is set opposite new love interest, most viewers are not ready to tolerate Arshi! Trp audience were hopeful with the AA track coz they thought didi se pichha chhutega ab! But didi being wwed, shown blissfully living with Ani and not dying...kya matlab hai iska?? Koi matlab nahi hai! Either didi has to die or turn vamp, nothing in between will help..at the end of the day, makers still have to depend on Runak! They will keep Runak union dangling one way or the other to make the show run!

Aur ye didi ke PR stunts pe mujhe kuchh khaas bharosa nahi hai! Ek number ki attention seeker hai! Aur dusro k messages me ghuske achhi ho gayi hun bolne se audience usko accept nahi karne wale!

@bold: Exactly. It's obvious even now that they continue to intend using Runak as a carrot....no matter how lazily.

Vihaan and his entire family is a complication that Jhanak has taken on in her life in her escapism and cowardice and she will now have to deal with the consequences as each of her lies unravels in her new fake life.

The characters don't have the depth to manage to set up any "two couple" storyline.....lol after 400 episodes, there is nothing much left in this show anyways...it's just running for the heck of it....not for any "long term arc" of all the characters....lol

But everyone will take their own time to reach that realization....and are welcome to keep hoping otherwise smiley36

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Posted: 7 months ago

Originally posted by: sanfan

Completely agree

Arshi ki oversmartness is only matched by her half sister’s stupidity who can choose a life in a jail outside jail 😂😂🤦🏻‍♀️ Shristi ke do anmol ratna!! smiley37smiley37

Yaar this is a show written to give Arshi a free pass as a rapist...lol and clearly Leena has people willing to buy into her narrative by gaslighting and trying whataboutism by claiming "everyone has done morally ambiguous things in this story"....lol that is the broad excuse being used to claim that Arshi raping Ani is the same as all the morally ambiguous things done by Ani or Jhanaksmiley36

So when we have people willing to buy that narrative from Leena, obviously the show has found its target audience smiley36.....Bullseye, Leenasmiley32smiley36

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Posted: 7 months ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: Exactly. It's obvious even now that they continue to intend using Runak as a carrot....no matter how lazily.

Vihaan and his entire family is a complication that Jhanak has taken on in her life in her escapism and cowardice and she will now have to deal with the consequences as each of her lies unravels in her new fake life.

The characters don't have the depth to manage to set up any "two couple" storyline.....lol after 400 episodes, there is nothing much left in this show anyways...it's just running for the heck of it....not for any "long term arc" of all the characters....lol

But everyone will take their own time to reach that realization....and are welcome to keep hoping otherwise smiley36

As they say… one dilemma can only be solved by facing a more severe dilemma 😂😂 when Jhanak thought she was pregnant, she ran to inform Ani about it cos her dilemma of a child growing up fatherless was deeper than her concerns about being considered the other woman 😂😂 and so it goes Jhanak is nicely poised for a big fat problem… Sanu ki!! 😂

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Posted: 7 months ago

Originally posted by: sanfan

As they say… one dilemma can only be solved by facing a more severe dilemma 😂😂 when Jhanak thought she was pregnant, she ran to inform Ani about it cos her dilemma of a child growing up fatherless was deeper than her concerns about being considered the other woman 😂😂 and so it goes Jhanak is nicely poised for a big fat problem… Sanu ki!! 😂

@bold: Exactly. Saanu ki 🤷‍♀️😂. We’re just here for the shits and giggles now smiley36….and how Leena tries to yet again whitewash Jhanak’s moronic actions leading to her latest round of big problemssmiley36.

There will as usual be some person assigned in the narrative to hail Jhanak as bholi masoom mahaan while finding a way to pin blame on Ani ghuma phira ke again for why Jhanak is in this situation 🤷‍♀️😂. Same was done during J’s pregnancy track. lol

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Posted: 7 months ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Yaar this is a show written to give Arshi a free pass as a rapist...lol and clearly Leena has people willing to buy into her narrative by gaslighting and trying whataboutism by claiming "everyone has done morally ambiguous things in this story"....lol that is the broad excuse being used to claim that Arshi raping Ani is the same as all the morally ambiguous things done by Ani or Jhanaksmiley36

So when we have people willing to buy that narrative from Leena, obviously the show has found its target audience smiley36.....Bullseye, Leenasmiley32smiley36

leena taming audience with her silly stuff is depressingly comedic, she has a knack for such debauchery😂. The story is hopeless and generally ridiculous, full of meaningless intrigue and manufactured drama. Since the rape night, i honestly don't trust anyone who praises these tracks........
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Posted: 7 months ago

Originally posted by: Maleigh

leena taming audience with her silly stuff is depressingly comedic, she has a knack for such debauchery😂. The story is hopeless and generally ridiculous, full of meaningless intrigue and manufactured drama. Since the rape night, i honestly don't trust anyone who praises these tracks........

You have SO nailed it with that term - meaningless intrigue. Indeed that is exactly what it is…the story sets up half baked “secrets” and expects audience to be all “ooooh when will the secret be out? I am waiting with bated breath” smiley42smiley36….that is the level of intelligence she affords the audience that she thinks these half assed “secrets” will intrigue anyone anymore. lol

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Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: Exactly. Saanu ki 🤷‍♀️😂. We’re just here for the shits and giggles now smiley36….and how Leena tries to yet again whitewash Jhanak’s moronic actions leading to her latest round of big problemssmiley36.

There will as usual be some person assigned in the narrative to hail Jhanak as bholi masoom mahaan while finding a way to pin blame on Ani ghuma phira ke again for why Jhanak is in this situation 🤷‍♀️😂. Same was done during J’s pregnancy track. lol

squeezing out every bit of drama and every fleeting giggle is the only thing that keeps me engaged with the show right now, there's so much to troll imao. I literally giggled like crazy hearing arshi like a soothsayer saying 'jhanak is not gonna die, the show is still on baby and we are all part of the story so chill. Bodo maa lets cut the cake' lol!!! I can't take it😂😂😂

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