Jhanak Written Update And Episode Discussion thread No 91. - Page 67

Originally posted by: Alter_Eg0

OMG...if there is a character that Leena writes that she truly believes is truly negative, what would that even be then?

According to her, there are no negative characters....she will portray even rapists, serial killers and mass murderers as "achhe log jo MOMMM ki baaton mein aa gaye".....there is no line of morality to cross in her books....lol sab chalta hai according to Leena....that is why the characters in her stories just do dialoguebaazi and fake preaching about right/wrong....Leena clearly herself doesn't believe in right/wrong....she will justify the most heinous things also as "achhe kaam"....lol

Originally posted by: ninaMAXWELL08

Lol nahi likh sakti negative characters toh yeh haal hai . Likhna aata to pata nahi kya hi likhti....JUTHI JUTHI 🤣🤣🤣

She does nt know the difference b/n positive and negative ...good /evil....so according to me she is most toxic arrogant egoistic woman with zero morals.

Originally posted by: Dibya_C

J agr sach me phattu nahi hoti to sabse pehle Didi pet pakad ke aane k baad didi ko nahi, Sirjee ko do jhapad lagati! Ye kahti ke how could you be so careless?? Jab jante hai apka hosh apki nahi sunta to peeke Arshi Ke kandhe sarh rakh ke mere naam se rone ki kya zaroorat thi!!! 🙄🙄 Izzat lutwa je agaya!! Kuchh bhi!! 🤧🤧

Dibya J was pushing Ani to be with Arshi. She can only ask why did you lie to me there was no relationship - which she did. Ani said he was not in his hosh and that is the exact thing that happened to J when she came with pregnancy. What J should have done is ask him to take responsibility for didi and still married him bcos at the time she thought he was going to die. She in anger told him to get married and left. Ani could have given himself a couple of days to think through if he really wanted to marry Arshi or just support the baby. Ani as always when Arshi is concerned feels the need to do right by her and willingly and immediately agreed for wedding. When J finds out Ani lied to her without knowing the convenient reason they gave him; it is right for her to feel distrust for Ani and leave. Ani letting her leave and marrying Arshi shows his priority. His child and Arshi's reputation is more important for him than threat to J's life. Now if we can all move on for a bit and explore Ani developing a brain and figuring Arshi's manipulation out and also J growing up and not appearing like a certified idiot and getting herself independent that would be good. Def dont want to see Ani rushing to J anymore. Let them focus on strengthening the leads first. This show has a very smail thread by which it can survive. Bring logic and positivity back in. If not its sure to sink.

Originally posted by: Dibya_C

But he didn't sleep with Arshi then also! Instead he accepted his love for J even after MUing J! That is who Ani really is! That is how his character is shaped from episode 1! Anirudh Bose is distinctly different from Leena's other MLs...that's why I say, if she intended to give Ani an ending like her MLs in JN and Guddi, she should not have developed his arc differently!

he would have if Arshi had pushed it. During their first pulshooja he was willing and he said that as well to her that he wwas willing then and also when she was leaving BH duringn J's death. He said you can love more than once and they can have a full life together. His arc was not done right then as well. Its his asking her to stay by promising hopes of a future that allowed for Arshi to be able to manipulate and violate him.

I never thought it was rape till Ani said he could not remember, because I thought a man cannot perform when he is not in his senses. But Ani has performed twice when he was not in his senses it seems - so maybe one can!!!

Originally posted by: PPak

he would have if Arshi had pushed it. During their first pulshooja he was willing and he said that as well to her that he wwas willing then and also when she was leaving BH duringn J's death. He said you can love more than once and they can have a full life together. His arc was not done right then as well. Its his asking her to stay by promising hopes of a future that allowed for Arshi to be able to manipulate and violate him.

I never thought it was rape till Ani said he could not remember, because I thought a man cannot perform when he is not in his senses. But Ani has performed twice when he was not in his senses it seems - so maybe one can!!!

Originally posted by: PPak

Dibya J was pushing Ani to be with Arshi. She can only ask why did you lie to me there was no relationship - which she did. Ani said he was not in his hosh and that is the exact thing that happened to J when she came with pregnancy. What J should have done is ask him to take responsibility for didi and still married him bcos at the time she thought he was going to die. She in anger told him to get married and left. Ani could have given himself a couple of days to think through if he really wanted to marry Arshi or just support the baby. Ani as always when Arshi is concerned feels the need to do right by her and willingly and immediately agreed for wedding. When J finds out Ani lied to her without knowing the convenient reason they gave him; it is right for her to feel distrust for Ani and leave. Ani letting her leave and marrying Arshi shows his priority. His child and Arshi's reputation is more important for him than threat to J's life. Now if we can all move on for a bit and explore Ani developing a brain and figuring Arshi's manipulation out and also J growing up and not appearing like a certified idiot and getting herself independent that would be good. Def dont want to see Ani rushing to J anymore. Let them focus on strengthening the leads first. This show has a very smail thread by which it can survive. Bring logic and positivity back in. If not its sure to sink.

Originally posted by: swahili07

Scientifically they can't. They may be violated if they are intoxicated . Even then a lot of permutations and combinations are there to make it happen. But this is Leenas's show so we can't expect logic here.

It is frankly a pity that a man's loss of dignity is being parsed in such detail thanks to Leena's gutter writing.....and forcible comparisons are being drawn to Jhanak's pregnancy track when that was a totally different situation.

Huge extrapolations and presumptions are being made for each situation when Ani stopped Arshi from leaving....conveniently leaving out how he was still awkward with Arshi even after trying to move on after J's death...he was crying daily and everyone was bombarding him with pressure from all sides to again make it work with Arshi.....he finally relented after being mocked by Nutan also ki go back to your "wife" Arshi.....yes, Ani is a weak man in many ways but the way people try to paper over the fact that he is CONSTANTLY mentally pressurized by every person in his life to go back to Arshi...including Jhanak Maharani herself....it's pitiful frankly......such over simplification of Ani's situation and always willingly playing into Leena's cheap narrative of how he supposedly CHOOSES Arshi each time.

During the aag track when he agreed for the SR, he was still shown confused about his feelings for Jhanak and that was him genuinely trying to move on with Arshi.....different situation. During J's death track, everyone knew he loved Jhanak and still kept trying to pressurize him to go back to Arshi....and Arshi always put words in his mouth claiming he loves both people at the same time.....makers again and again put in these trash dialogues and some people here try to hold them up as some kind of cornerstones of Ani's character....which they clearly are not if anyone bothers to evaluate his actions and journey on an overall level.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

It is frankly a pity that a man's loss of dignity is being parsed in such detail thanks to Leena's gutter writing.....and forcible comparisons are being drawn to Jhanak's pregnancy track when that was a totally different situation.

Huge extrapolations and presumptions are being made for each situation when Ani stopped Arshi from leaving....conveniently leaving out how he was still awkward with Arshi even after trying to move on after J's death...he was crying daily and everyone was bombarding him with pressure from all sides to again make it work with Arshi.....he finally relented after being mocked by Nutan also ki go back to your "wife" Arshi.....yes, Ani is a weak man in many ways but the way people try to paper over the fact that he is CONSTANTLY mentally pressurized by every person in his life to go back to Arshi...including Jhanak Maharani herself....it's pitiful frankly......such over simplification of Ani's situation and always willingly playing into Leena's cheap narrative of how he supposedly CHOOSES Arshi each time.

During the aag track when he agreed for the SR, he was still shown confused about his feelings for Jhanak and that was him genuinely trying to move on with Arshi.....different situation. During J's death track, everyone knew he loved Jhanak and still kept trying to pressurize him to go back to Arshi....and Arshi always put words in his mouth claiming he loves both people at the same time.....makers again and again put in these trash dialogues and some people here try to hold them up as some kind of cornerstones of Ani's character....which they clearly are not if anyone bothers to evaluate his actions and journey on an overall level.

Originally posted by: swahili07

If he didn't take the responsibility of the child then the same people would have called him out for abandoning his pregnant ex behind. Aap hi sabse pehle bolti ki "How can Jhanak trust someone who abandoned his pregnant ex lover?".Also u seem to defend Arshi a lot ki Ani ne usey license diya tha violate karne ke liye. Kya saare couples shuru din se sex karte hain. A lot of couples take their time. Imagine a girl asking for time in a relationship but the boy intoxicates her to have sex . Doesn't that sound disgusting.Marital rape is also a concept btw.

Exactly a case of Damned if he does damned if he doesn’t

Originally posted by: swahili07

Bold: Exactly! People think ki pehli nazar se ml fl ke beech gehra pyaar ho jaata hai. His love for Jhanak during that aag track was still pretty raw. At that stage he would have definitely preferred Arshi(with whom he was in a 7 year relationship) over someone whom he met not that long ago. Agar aag track me Jhanak ke piche bhaagta toh audience hi kehti " Chhi! Yeh kaisa spineless character hai jo apni beemar girlfriend ke bajaay apne new lover pe dhyan de Raha hai".

@bold: Wohi toh....how easily everyone forgets the terrible choices put in front of him each time.....Arshi was shown lying burnt in a hospital and supposedly in so much trauma/needing positive environment for recovery....aisi haalat mein Ani feeling a compulsion to make extra efforts for her recovery rather than dwelling on his feelings for Jhanak was understandable....execution ofcourse was still poor only in Leena's script but general intent was understandable....where they messed up that track was showing Ani believing that Jhanak could ever harm Arshi deliberately....but anyways by now we are well versed with Leena's contrivances so that is par for the course.

People get hung up on things like SR ke liye agree kar liya, Arshi ko rok liya rather than getting what his overall personality is.....it tends towards showing empathy for whoever is in pain or struggling. Jhanak never approaches Ani to beg for sympathy for her pain or misfortunes - she instead always shows ATTITUDE to him, puts him down and mocks him....she did the same during her pregnancy reveal also which she timed in the worst possible way as usual right on the heels of having kicked him out of her room in Mumbai.

Arshi on the other hand always finds a way to display bechaargi in front of Ani with full support and propping up via Ani's family constantly bashing and pressurizing him to do khidmat and ghulaami of Arshi.

Ani is not removed from his circumstances as some of the narratives here try to portray....there is a larger context of why he gets cowed down everytime even though I'm hardly a fan of the cowing down either....but to use it to cheapen his integrity each time is playing into Leena's hands and the cheap narrative she builds against him.

Even now Ani would have been shamed if he didn't agree to marry Arshi in the face of everyone including Jhanak pressurizing him and instantly passing judgement on the situation even when he said he can't remember what happened.....