Would "Abhira" be called Abheera and hated had she been baby Birla? - Page 6

Originally posted by: shahsb_26

You know when I made this post, it was mostly for those who are writing *Abheera* but then I realized that most of those are blocked... So jaane do..

Now, coming to the show,

I don't like Abhira, but Ruhi is kind of hateworthy character, even as a human being! Never have I written that Ruhi being wrong, makes Abhira right... NO! Abhira isn't the kind of FL or woman I would root for... And nor do I watch the crap.. Sirf clips on TL. That's it! I like different crap on same channel.

What pisses me off about her is that she wanted two years before baby, then got pregnant and all the crap that followed was huge turn off...

But I don't get this attitude of Ruhi has traumatic past... Haan bhai, Abhira ka toh best hai na? Nopes! Both had their share of sadness and trauma but constantly defending Ruhi with lame reasons is beyond me... She is villain, who will be whitewashed (heard they did same for Arohi too), but still Ruhi has done way worse than Abhira ki mahaanta!

Anyways, most of the gen 4 who hadn’t watched previous season adore Abhira who, in my opinion, has become stupid and door mat over the course of the show but she hasn’t done anything for which she can be reviled like she has been on this forum by a certain section for obvious reason.

However, it’s good to see some do have the gumption to admit they hate abhira not because of any fault of her but simply because of her parents.

Originally posted by: Krinya

Yeah this question needs to be asked too..

Those who love abhira , would they love her if she was abhimanyus daughter?

The thing is hatred for abhimanyu & akshara is extreme ..and it's more egotistical..each side wants to prove their point..and the point is basically nothing , it's so done for ..that story is over ..

Not sure about IF but on twitter and other SM, definitely those Abhinav fans may have been Chuhi supporters too!

But again for me, story is boring, character is dull and inspite of her being AkshNav's daughter, I couldn't care less about her...

Abhir was one of my favorite character, but as an adult, seems like he is just added layer to leads... So, naa...

And I will also say, neither I expected FL to be Abhinav's daughter when Gen 3 was on nor did I expect Abhir to be Sharma (infact was quite sure he would be Birla only) .. But oh well.. Nor is Abhira likable at this point nor Abhir..

Hence I created the post too and wanted some general thoughts. I feel many do hate Abhira for her parents..

Originally posted by: Krinya

Compared to abhir and ruhi yes . She had a sheltered childhood & trauma so called in her life started only when she was an adult ..like 21 or 24 yrs old..that too was her own choice..she chose arman & podars , now she chose goenkas . That doesn't mean ruhis actions are justified bec of her trauma ..none of her actions are excusable but in the show in order to keep her they just let it go ....likewise abhira ki mahanta they can't do away with. Imo both are equally worse..if not for abhiras mahanta , ruhi won't be there in ph. If not for ruhis insane behavior , what would abhira be ? Stories like boy meets girl and gets married wrap up in 16 episodes.

Most wouldn't agree with it and this is consistent across both generations and in ITb in general... And that's what I keep seeing... Bechari Ruhi had to go through this and that, so her hating Abhira is justified...

Woman legit went for gender check when she met with an accident!

And yes, Abhir too had traumatic life but at this point he doesn't seem as bad as Ruhi! Trauma timepass bankar reh gaya hai...

Originally posted by: Lostin90s

Ruhi is a despicable character and has no redeeming qualities. The only reason she is put on pedestal is because of her tenuous connection to a trash character who had no redeeming qualities himself.

Anyways, most of the gen 4 who hadn’t watched previous season adore Abhira who, in my opinion, has become stupid and door mat over the course of the show but she hasn’t done anything for which she can be reviled like she has been on this forum by a certain section for obvious reason.

However, it’s good to see some do have the gumption to admit they hate abhira not because of any fault of her but simply because of her parents.

Yes, I don't mind you hating Abhira or disliking her... That's what I wanted to see who can confirm that their disliking is mostly because of parents... And only couple of them agreed..

Usse hate karke... Ruhi ko itna kyun glorify kar rahe hai.. Ab toh Billa boy aa gaya hai.. Demand ke woh Parallel lead bane...

Originally posted by: Lostin90s

Ruhi is a despicable character and has no redeeming qualities. The only reason she is put on pedestal is because of her tenuous connection to a trash character who had no redeeming qualities himself.

Anyways, most of the gen 4 who hadn’t watched previous season adore Abhira who, in my opinion, has become stupid and door mat over the course of the show but she hasn’t done anything for which she can be reviled like she has been on this forum by a certain section for obvious reason.

However, it’s good to see some do have the gumption to admit they hate abhira not because of any fault of her but simply because of her parents.

Uska badbad nature gaya hue Varna acche se dene mei peeche nhi haatthi voh.

Originally posted by: Krinya

Can't say about others but for me , I don't relate to tv chars , just some aspects can be relatable at times .

Ruhi seems normal to many bec she's more human , prone to mistakes & in yrkkh , where there r no downright evil characters , here , they keep flipping from good to bad and back, there r ppl who like arohi & ruhi type chars .. a dadi saas like Kaveri or mil like vidya or chachi saas like Manisha , fufasa , bhua etc are all relatable characters who act despicable from time to time ..but ppl find connection to them ..ruhi and abhira are incomparable. One belongs to the crowd & other is supposed to be the fl .

Yeah I know you. I can say definitely with confidence that atleast you don't judge characters based on parentage. For you it must be more habit with legacy than those daughter she is.

But you also can't deny that Roohi is related character to many because of parentage. You know many of these ppl used to attack me if I support Aarohi. Then how come for same people Roohi looks relatable now. That's the whole point of this topic. Abhira is hated from day one not because characters flip but because she is Abhinavs daughter. I definitely don't like lot of Abhira's actions now that's why I didn't even watch the serial from 2 weeks. Same goes with Anupama. I watched for few days but that FL was too annoying for me to continue. But if you hate both ml and fl why will I waste my time on the show who takes max of screen space.

Yeah Roohi might be related character than FL but how come it's mostly with "Team Abhimanyu" only and not any other character. It's obvious but everyone is entitled to their likes and dislikes. It's just seems hypocritical to me when she is defended by same group who used to do Jharu naaras every single day.

Originally posted by: Krinya

Yeah this question needs to be asked too..

Those who love abhira , would they love her if she was abhimanyus daughter?

The thing is hatred for abhimanyu & akshara is extreme ..and it's more egotistical..each side wants to prove their point..and the point is basically nothing , it's so done for ..that story is over ..

Yeah my opinions about her would be same even if she was Abhimanyus daughter. I guess for many of them here. There are actions I like about her and actions we don't too. Lot of people here call out if Abhira is wrong except maybe couple of people.

No one has blind love for fl like some people claim to defend Roohi.i supported Aarohi many times as well. She was not true vamp. Never ran after Abhimanyu or cheated Neil. She had a personality unlike Roohi who always blames others for her wrong actions or lusted jeth when married.

Originally posted by: PeacefulLove

Yeah my opinions about her would be same even if she was Abhimanyus daughter. I guess for many of them here. There are actions I like about her and actions we don't too. Lot of people here call out if Abhira is wrong except maybe couple of people.

No one has blind love for fl like some people claim to defend Roohi.i supported Aarohi many times as well. She was not true vamp. Never ran after Abhimanyu or cheated Neil. She had a personality unlike Roohi who always blames others for her wrong actions or lusted jeth when married.

Why can't we let go of hatred for ruhi ? She's a changed person now. Arman was the equal culprit in ruhis case till one fine moment he realized he loves abhira.but he's redeemed coz he loves abhira . If this wasn't the case and arman didn't lead her on , they won't end up at the altar.

U see the problem? We normal ppl can't let go off our hatred for fictional characters and here abhira is doing ek hazaron mei meri behna jaap. It doesn't make her bad , it makes her foolish . How she let go off arman , poddars , goenkas and even ruhi bec she turned out to be family..that's why I said she's unreal and hence she gives a reason to troll her .

If ruhis defence was trauma, abhiras only defence is that ruhi is worse , arman is worse , poddars are worse.

It goes both ways no dear..you say nobody defends abhira for her foolishness except few..likewise nobody defends ruhi except a few..imo ruhi will be hated for her actions even if she wasn't connected to abhimanyu. Who likes the third wheel in the story?

Originally posted by: itsShonali

Okay, so let's start -

1. She tolerated verbal abuse, character assassination and so much more and remained in that toxic house despite her and her mother's character being questioned.

2. She doesn't care about other people's feelings like how she triggered Ruhi's trauma again and again after she woke up from coma and was made to believe that her child didn't survive. She did the same with Abhir by singing that song and literally blackmailed him into doing what she wanted.

3. She forces herself upon everybody, as in meri family bano, mera sapna, meri happy family thing. Ruhi told her to stay away again and again and insulted her, cursed her, but still the great clown continued to try and make her accept her as a sister. And that this is your matashree was highly insensitive.

4. She talks big but when it comes to act on it, she becomes the greatest phuski bomb in the world. Co-parenting ka bola toh she started having nightmares, sammaan and izzat ki baatein ko toh she still went over to PH to whine about how they don't love her. And within a few days she will be back there and will forget about everything, every abuse, every bad word, again.

5. She continued to tolerate that stupid and toxic mother-in-law, and was ready to die just to give the family their heir so that she could gain Vidya's love and acceptance. Tab toh she didn't complain ki that her respect is limited to being a baby machine?! Now, she is complaining about the same reason for which she was ready to die just a few months back.

6. She doesn't ask the right questions. Like who the hell doesn't want to find out why her mother is being called a murderer, why her mother didn't tell her about her brother? Abhimanyu ka nahi bataya it's understandable and same goes for the Goenka family. But Abhir? And when she found out she has a half-sibling, she acts all clownish and cries mumma, you are a secret keeping champion.

7. She believes is my trauma is trauma but others trauma is past mein hui choti si galati jisse bhool jaana chahiye. She is insensitive and selfish.

8. She acts all good and nice but is very sly. When Ruhi was being insulted by the powder family and even told to leave the house then she didn't say anything, instead she was quick to judge her and blame her that she wanted to harm the baby. But then again, she didn't even speak up for herself at times so that's too much for her.

9. Same thing happened with Dadi sa now, tab kahan thhi yeh self respect ki baatein when Dadi sa used to insult her all the time? It is not the first time that Dadi insulted her and called her names.

In short, the FL is a stupid and annoying clown who talks big but fails to execute. She was good initially like in the first few episodes only but since then her character has turned into another abla, bechaari naari who tries to but fails to be sabpe bhaari.

FL stupid hai, hateable hai, annoying and irritating bhi hai. And this is not about Sam.

Like, have you seen Saavi ki Sawari? Saavi is a hundred times better than this clownbhira. She didn't need any other character around her to be the villain or to do bad things so that she could shine as the good and wonderful FL.

But this clown character needs that.

As for Ruhi, because you all have brought her to make a comparison or whatever, did you all forget what you all say all the time?

That Ruhi is the villain?

If she is the villain she will do bad things only na so there is no point in questioning the actions of a villain.

Questionable are the actions of stupid, baby kidnapper FL whose self-respect will vaporize in a matter of few days.

Also, you all continue to imply again and again that clown is hated because of who her father is. Dude, I don't hate Abhinav, he was a good guy, a nice man but his daughter is annoying and plain weird.

Even if she was Abhimanyu's daughter or Naithik's or Kartik's or anybody else's I would have hated this clown.

Also, this is my last comment on this thread because I know that no matter what we say you all will continue to believe what you want to. Makes me think that if you aren't willing to understand others point of view so why even ask them about it. But it's fine.

Bye!

Originally posted by: PeacefulLove

Yeah I know you. I can say definitely with confidence that atleast you don't judge characters based on parentage. For you it must be more habit with legacy than those daughter she is.

But you also can't deny that Roohi is related character to many because of parentage. You know many of these ppl used to attack me if I support Aarohi. Then how come for same people Roohi looks relatable now. That's the whole point of this topic. Abhira is hated from day one not because characters flip but because she is Abhinavs daughter. I definitely don't like lot of Abhira's actions now that's why I didn't even watch the serial from 2 weeks. Same goes with Anupama. I watched for few days but that FL was too annoying for me to continue. But if you hate both ml and fl why will I waste my time on the show who takes max of screen space.

Yeah Roohi might be related character than FL but how come it's mostly with "Team Abhimanyu" only and not any other character. It's obvious but everyone is entitled to their likes and dislikes. It's just seems hypocritical to me when she is defended by same group who used to do Jharu naaras every single day.

Xactly i myself got a lot of dislike for supporting aru..so I left the forum.. deleted all posts ..was active only in arjun forum only.

I relate more to ru ..she seems more human..the gen 3 connect is aru not manyu for me and it's minimal..

If they say ru is lusty ab did the same being a wedding planner she also went behind ar ..it's the pov

I can back on forum due to the baccha kand .. personally it was very triggering..I saw tweets and many saying only ab deserved ..it was too much ..it was ru baby and the breakdown was so sad ..she was in mourning hating he tauting her for not feeding or caring is insensitive..post natal depression was made fun ..if anyone has been thru like me they would know ..how deep scary the phase is..it should try and show how it could be approached thru therapy..this is nayi soch