Bengaluru Man Dies By Suicide, Extortion By Wife, Tags Musk, Trump

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Posted: 8 months ago
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Bengaluru Man Dies By Suicide, Cites Extortion By Wife, Tags Musk, Trump In Last Post!! Atul Subhash was found dead at his Bengaluru flat last morning! New Delhi:

A 34-year-old man died by suicide at his home in Bengaluru, shortly after recording a video accusing his estranged wife and her family of harassment. Bengaluru police have also found a suicide note and registered a case of abetment of suicide following a complaint.

Such accusations are typically made by a lot of women before committing suicide, which makes this case intriguing! However, it's shocking that a man being in such a favorable situation would take such a radical step when he had family and society on his side.

This news-related story goes like this: Atul Subhash, a 34-year-old Uttar Pradesh software developer who died in Bengaluru, left a suicide note that has drawn attention to the negative aspects of the family court system. Serious questions have been raised concerning the system in light of Subhash's more than 20-page suicide note and video, in which he detailed his relationship with his wife, the court battle, and the effects on his family and mental health.

Neighbours found him hanging after breaking into the flat. A placard that read, "justice is due" was found in his room. His brother Bikas Kumar told police that Atul's estranged wife had filed false cases against him and his parents and that he was mentally upset.

Atul has made serious allegations against his wife, her family members and a judge in Uttar Pradesh's Jaunpur in a video. He has also left behind a letter addressed to the President, in which he criticised the criminal justice system and flagged a trend of false cases. In another note, he has said he pleads not guilty to all the charges brought against him by his wife. These include charges under the Dowry Prohibition Act and relevant sections such as causing hurt or cruelty against a woman under the Indian Penal Code. "I humbly request the court to stop harassing my parents and brother in these false cases," he said.

ABETMENT OF SUICIDE

The letter by Subhash raised serious allegations against his wife, his family and even the court system for pushing him towards the decision to end his life. A look at the provisions relating to the abetment of suicide, however, raises the question of whether the case would come within the strict legal definition.

Various judgments of the Supreme Court and various High Courts in cases of abetment of suicide, particularly, in cases where women die by suicide due to cruelty by in-laws, have noted that the "ingredients" of abetment have to be considered in such cases. While the dying declaration or suicide note is seen as important evidence, courts have held that even the dying declaration or a suicide note is not enough for a conviction for the offence of abetment of suicide.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/rs-3-crore-for-settlement-9-police-cases-bengaluru-techies-brother-alleges-harassment-by-wife-in-laws-in-suicide-case/articleshow/116179499.cms

Is this story believable to you ?

If she really harassed him, then he has multiple choices except this suicide, isn't it?

Is it really because of his wife's harassment, or is there any other reason??

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ssttuuttii thumbnail
Posted: 8 months ago
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Originally posted by: Viswasruti

Such accusations are typically made by a lot of women before committing suicide, which makes this case intriguing!

If she really harassed him, then he has multiple choices except this suicide, isn't it?

Don't women have multiple choices too... instead of committing suicide? Why do we consider that typical but a man doing the same is intriguing?

Equality is not merely about fighting for equal rights... it starts right here by having the same mindset while looking at a news item. All I see in this article is a person allegedly harassed by their spouse and in-laws to the point of committing suicide. It is sad... no matter what might be the gender of the alleged victim and perpetrator. The truth can only be known after further investigation, but I hope that justice... whatever it may entail in this scenario... is served after truly considering everything without any bias.

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Posted: 8 months ago
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Originally posted by: ssttuuttii

Don't women have multiple choices too... instead of committing suicide? Why do we consider that typical but a man doing the same is intriguing?

Equality is not merely about fighting for equal rights... it starts right here by having the same mindset while looking at a news item. All I see in this article is a person allegedly harassed by their spouse and in-laws to the point of committing suicide. It is sad... no matter what might be the gender of the alleged victim and perpetrator. The truth can only be known after further investigation, but I hope that justice... whatever it may entail in this scenario... is served after truly considering everything without any bias.

Stuti, I fully agree with you, suicide is not a choice for anyone.

Here my point is, the society and the family system always supports/ protects/ pampers/ spoils a man. By being under such a protective shield, why this man is claiming that because of his wife's harassment, he is going to commit suicide? How far it is feasible and true??

Yes, there will be a few rare occasions when vile individuals will attempt to alter the law in order to secure alimony, using this stipulation as a cover to obtain financial gain.

But, rarely it happens. If a tiger cries with fear, seeing a rabbit in its den... is it believable??

There are currently nine pending cases against this individual. It is possible that he may be subjected to such a drastic measure due to mental stress and shame.

Why, media and all websites started blaming that lady who was yet to explain her side of story?

ssttuuttii thumbnail
Posted: 8 months ago
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Originally posted by: Viswasruti

If a tiger cries with fear, seeing a rabbit in its den... is it believable??

Why, media and all websites started blaming that lady who was yet to explain her side of story?

While I agree that we shouldn't blame the woman yet, merely on the basis of a suicide note.... is it not true that if the roles were reversed... people would as easily believe that the man is the culprit even without hearing his side of the story?

My point still stands the same... everyone should be given a chance to explain themselves without having any gender bias.

I absolutely disagree with the tiger and rabbit analogy... a rabbit is 100% never going to be able to harm the tiger ever... at best it can just run away. On the other hand, women are as capable of inflicting abuse (emotional or otherwise) as men.

I personally know of at least 2 incidents (one of actual domestic violence and the other one of mere threats of using these skewed laws in their favor) where the female was the perpetrator and the male was the victim. Of course, I know more cases of the opposite nature... so, statistically... women are probably more likely to be the victim... but let's not over-generalize that sentiment. It is the job of the justice system to look at each case individually and investigate it impartially... not simply follow the tide or go by existing prejudices.


Just to clarify... I'm not blaming the woman either. All I'm saying is that... we shouldn't jump the gun and place the blame on the man so easily. Like we are trying to consider the woman's PoV right now... allowing her a chance to explain her side... this same privilege should be offered to men too (in general for all such cases).

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Posted: 8 months ago
#5

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

Bengaluru Man Dies By Suicide, Cites Extortion By Wife, Tags Musk, Trump In Last Post!! Atul Subhash was found dead at his Bengaluru flat last morning! New Delhi:

A 34-year-old man died by suicide at his home in Bengaluru, shortly after recording a video accusing his estranged wife and her family of harassment. Bengaluru police have also found a suicide note and registered a case of abetment of suicide following a complaint.

Such accusations are typically made by a lot of women before committing suicide, which makes this case intriguing! However, it's shocking that a man being in such a favorable situation would take such a radical step when he had family and society on his side.

This news-related story goes like this: Atul Subhash, a 34-year-old Uttar Pradesh software developer who died in Bengaluru, left a suicide note that has drawn attention to the negative aspects of the family court system. Serious questions have been raised concerning the system in light of Subhash's more than 20-page suicide note and video, in which he detailed his relationship with his wife, the court battle, and the effects on his family and mental health.

Neighbours found him hanging after breaking into the flat. A placard that read, "justice is due" was found in his room. His brother Bikas Kumar told police that Atul's estranged wife had filed false cases against him and his parents and that he was mentally upset.

Atul has made serious allegations against his wife, her family members and a judge in Uttar Pradesh's Jaunpur in a video. He has also left behind a letter addressed to the President, in which he criticised the criminal justice system and flagged a trend of false cases. In another note, he has said he pleads not guilty to all the charges brought against him by his wife. These include charges under the Dowry Prohibition Act and relevant sections such as causing hurt or cruelty against a woman under the Indian Penal Code. "I humbly request the court to stop harassing my parents and brother in these false cases," he said.

ABETMENT OF SUICIDE

The letter by Subhash raised serious allegations against his wife, his family and even the court system for pushing him towards the decision to end his life. A look at the provisions relating to the abetment of suicide, however, raises the question of whether the case would come within the strict legal definition.

Various judgments of the Supreme Court and various High Courts in cases of abetment of suicide, particularly, in cases where women die by suicide due to cruelty by in-laws, have noted that the "ingredients" of abetment have to be considered in such cases. While the dying declaration or suicide note is seen as important evidence, courts have held that even the dying declaration or a suicide note is not enough for a conviction for the offence of abetment of suicide.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/rs-3-crore-for-settlement-9-police-cases-bengaluru-techies-brother-alleges-harassment-by-wife-in-laws-in-suicide-case/articleshow/116179499.cms

Is this story believable to you ?

If she really harassed him, then he has multiple choices except this suicide, isn't it?

Is it really because of his wife's harassment, or is there any other reason??

I actually don’t find it that surprising. Usually people tend to assume women are more prone to harassment / dowry demands / abuse.

While I don’t think men have a lot of dowry problems, harassment abuse is there. Maybe not as much as women face, but it’s there, just like violation / sexual abuse of men are prevalent. It’s just that sometimes such news don’t get the attention / traction it deserves when men are subjected to it.

That’s true, suicide is never an option. It shouldn’t be in the list of choices either.

@b : I think
that can be ascertained only when more pertinent facts of the case come out. I think Before jumping to conclusions & judging the wife, I certainly think she’s allowed to have the benefit of doubt.

Edited by missFiesty_69 - 8 months ago
Viswasruti thumbnail
Posted: 8 months ago
#6

Originally posted by: ssttuuttii

While I agree that we shouldn't blame the woman yet, merely on the basis of a suicide note.... is it not true that if the roles were reversed... people would as easily believe that the man is the culprit even without hearing his side of the story?

My point still stands the same... everyone should be given a chance to explain themselves without having any gender bias.

I absolutely disagree with the tiger and rabbit analogy... a rabbit is 100% never going to be able to harm the tiger ever... at best it can just run away. On the other hand, women are as capable of inflicting abuse (emotional or otherwise) as men.

I personally know of at least 2 incidents (one of actual domestic violence and the other one of mere threats of using these skewed laws in their favor) where the female was the perpetrator and the male was the victim. Of course, I know more cases of the opposite nature... so, statistically... women are probably more likely to be the victim... but let's not over-generalize that sentiment. It is the job of the justice system to look at each case individually and investigate it impartially... not simply follow the tide or go by existing prejudices.


Just to clarify... I'm not blaming the woman either. All I'm saying is that... we shouldn't jump the gun and place the blame on the man so easily. Like we are trying to consider the woman's PoV right now... allowing her a chance to explain her side... this same privilege should be offered to men too (in general for all such cases).

Yes, you mentioned it correctly that-- 'everyone should be given a chance to explain themselves without having any gender bias.'

Why are social media and TV news outlets adopting sides and making judgments as though she is a terrible person and he is a scapegoat, without understanding the other side of the story?

Why is social media ablaze with queries like "women are using this as a weapon to harass men" and "men are exploited because of these alimony rules and court verdicts"?

Again coming back to the tiger-rabbit analogy: the family in particular, society at large, and long-standing traditions and norms, all support, believe, and establish as a rule that men are superior and have the authority to do anything in family matters. He has family support in this instance (is it? I suspect that his brother from a different aspect!). After this divorce, he has every opportunity to settle down with another lady, and the legal system has already granted them both a divorce. In such a situation, he has many options for how to live and no cause to die other than that he is mentally ill.

His estranged wife, or his own family, may have abetted him in order to avoid paying alimony to that woman and her son.

Here the much discussed point is abetment of his suicide! Just think it from a different angle, if she provokes, neglects, or heckled him, he has a choice to come out of that relationship, which he did. Then why he has to blame her for his suicide? It means, he and/ or his family doesn't want to give any money to her, for the maintenance of their son.

He claims that she is demanding an outrageous sum to resolve the issue, but the court never permits such demands and orders from either party. The law will determine the amount of alimony based on the father's income and property, and he must only pay the amount that the court determines is legal, regardless of her demands!

Now, we are getting the other version of the story, media is busy projecting the other side, let us see...

Stuti, smiley31 with thought-provoking points, you started a discussion on this issue. You finally roused me from my slumber and forced me to consider this matter carefully. I used to take part in debates and discussions at the Balika Vadhu forum once. We would go into great detail about topics like marital rape, child marriage and its effects, the roles of men and women in the family system, a child becoming a mother to several children, etc in those days.

Those were the good old days, when social issues were discussed extensively.

Viswasruti thumbnail
Posted: 8 months ago
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Originally posted by: missFiesty_69

I actually don’t find it that surprising. Usually people generally assume women are more prone to harassment / dowry demands / abuse.

While I don’t think men have a lot of dowry problems, harassment abuse is there. Maybe not as much as women face , but it’s there just like violation / sexual abuse of men are prevalent. It’s just that sometimes such news don’t get the attention / traction it deserves when men are subjected to it.

That’s true, suicide is never an option. It shouldn’t be a list of choices either.

@b : I think
that can be ascertained only when more pertinent facts of the case come out. I think Before jumping to conclusions & judging the wife, I certainly think she’s allowed to have the benefit of doubt.

Now, she is coming out to present her version. Let us see...
missFiesty_69 thumbnail
Posted: 8 months ago
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Can’t think of a reason.

Some twitter users remarked that he might not have faith in the Indian judiciary. Otherwise doesn’t make make much sense. Even stranger is fact he tagged Elon. I mean what’s Elon going to do ? fight in the cause of justice for a random guy on the internet ?

( forgive me I don’t mean to disrespect the person who has passed away but for Elon he’s yet another guy who has tagged him, except in a suicide note )

Edited by missFiesty_69 - 8 months ago
Viswasruti thumbnail
Posted: 8 months ago
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Originally posted by: missFiesty_69

Can’t think of a reason.

Some twitter users remarked that he might not have faith in the Indian judiciary. Otherwise doesn’t make make much sense. Even stranger is fact he tagged Elon. I mean what’s Elon going to do ? fight in the cause of justice for a random guy on the internet ?

( forgive me I don’t mean to disrespect the person who has passed away but for Elon he’s yet another guy who has tagged him, except in a suicide note )

In his final post, he wrote, "I will be dead when you will read this. A legal genocide of men happening in India currently. A dead man is requesting Elon Musk and Donald Trump to save millions of life from woke Ideologies, Abortion, DEI and restore freedom of speech in India."

Read more at:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/116192686.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

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