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Posted: 8 months ago
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Firstly I have given up on the show long back and don’t have any special love for any of the characters. Nor do I support any of the nonsense that’s currently been shown. So I have been seeing lot of rage on social media that Arshi violated Ani, she r*ped him, she deserves death punishment blah blah blue blue, I genuinely want to know how this is different from what happened in Kashmir night and what jhanak did?

If a guy not being in his senses is the criteria then Ani wasn’t in his senses even during Kashmir night. Arshi and Jhanak were the ones in their senses and took the call to get physical. And as far as I remember Arshi didn’t tie up ani and forced herself.. she kept on saying feel jhanak in me. Ani knew it’s Arshi still wanted physical intimacy so went ahead. As messed and cringey this looks, I am unable to differentiate between the two scenarios.

And if I have to be brutally honest then what Jhanak did is far worse. She could’ve easily controlled her desires. Infact she should’ve, after all the “Arshi didi” jaap she did and does. With what face she says she doesn’t want to come between Anishi after literally sleeping with Ani when he wasn’t even in his senses.. Which decent morally correct woman sleeps with her sister’s fiancé?

In true sense jhanak violated Ani coz she slept with him, didn’t bother to reveal it next day, acted innocent all through the wedding and had she not been pregnant would have never come to reveal anything… she literally used Ani like a toy for a night and but I never saw any rage in people at that time..

Am I missing something coz math isn’t mathing here.. ya toh dono galat hai ya dono sahi.. how is one an act of r*pe and other pure love making submission to your loved one? Is it just because one was done by fl and other by pl.. I am noth supporting Arshi but how’s jhanak any better than her… infact in my eyes she’s far worse.. at least Arshi doesn’t fake being morally correct.. if jhanak was so righteous as she claims to be what was the need to go on a date with her sister’s fiancé and sleep with him? Why propose him and then say I don’t want to ruin your relationship?

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Posted: 8 months ago
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Originally posted by: Firefly_shines

Firstly I have given up on the show long back and don’t have any special love for any of the characters. Nor do I support any of the nonsense that’s currently been shown. So I have been seeing lot of rage on social media that Arshi violated Ani, she r*ped him, she deserves death punishment blah blah blue blue, I genuinely want to know how this is different from what happened in Kashmir night and what jhanak did?

If a guy not being in his senses is the criteria then Ani wasn’t in his senses even during Kashmir night. Arshi and Jhanak were the ones in their senses and took the call to get physical. And as far as I remember Arshi didn’t tie up ani and forced herself.. she kept on saying feel jhanak in me. Ani knew it’s Arshi still wanted physical intimacy so went ahead. As messed and cringey this looks, I am unable to differentiate between the two scenarios.

And if I have to be brutally honest then what Jhanak did is far worse. She could’ve easily controlled her desires. Infact she should’ve, after all the “Arshi didi” jaap she did and does. With what face she says she doesn’t want to come between Anishi after literally sleeping with Ani when he wasn’t even in his senses.. Which decent morally correct woman sleeps with her sister’s fiancé?

In true sense jhanak violated Ani coz she slept with him, didn’t bother to reveal it next day, acted innocent all through the wedding and had she not been pregnant would have never come to reveal anything… she literally used Ani like a toy for a night and but I never saw any rage in people at that time..

Am I missing something coz math isn’t mathing here.. ya toh dono galat hai ya dono sahi.. how is one an act of r*pe and other pure love making submission to your loved one? Is it just because one was done by fl and other by pl.. I am noth supporting Arshi but how’s jhanak any better than her… infact in my eyes she’s far worse.. at least Arshi doesn’t fake being morally correct.. if jhanak was so righteous as she claims to be what was the need to go on a date with her sister’s fiancé and sleep with him? Why propose him and then say I don’t want to ruin your relationship?

In case of Jhanak, Ani being not in senses still he was the one declaring his love for Jhanak to her, he was the one who approaching her to be with him, to hug him and love him that's why Jhanak also got weak at that moment, and only think about their love and marriage to save him from fever as he was constantly saying this is my last night with you, mjhe nhi jeena.

But in case of Arshi, Ani was not the one who was approaching her, she was forcing him to imagine her as Jhanak, she is doing filthy acts meanwhile Ani was keep chanting Jhanak name only.

Both the nights are totally different.

Edited by Shalinim153 - 8 months ago
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Posted: 8 months ago
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Originally posted by: Shalinim153

In case of Jhanak, Ani being not in senses still he was the one declaring his love for Jhanak to her, he was the one who approaching her to be with him, to hug him and love him that's why Jhanak also got weak at that moment, and only think about their love and marriage to save him from fever as he was constantly saying this is my last night with you, mjhe nhi jeena.

But in case of Arshi, Ani was not the one who was approaching her, she was forcing him to imagine her as Jhanak, she is doing filthy acts meanwhile Ani was keep chanting Jhanak name only.

Both the nights are totally different.

Good response.

In yesterdays episode when the new Kavitha Bhanushali was speaking abt how Brig threw her out saying how her child was not his - it brought back memories of Ani rejecting J's baby as Aditya's. The shaming Ani did to J at that time was brutal. I'm wondering if makers will reopen those incidents wich Arshi's pregnancy.

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Posted: 8 months ago
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Good response.

In yesterdays episode when the new Kavitha Bhanushali was speaking abt how Brig threw her out saying how her child was not his - it brought back memories of Ani rejecting J's baby as Aditya's. The shaming Ani did to J at that time was brutal. I'm wondering if makers will reopen those incidents wich Arshi's pregnancy.

Yes, Ani rejecting Jhanak's baby claim is definitely brutal but I understand his POV that he didn't remember anything meanwhile of BB/KB case they did it purposely (if we go through previous story not current one of BB proving innocent)

But, yeah I feel Leena finished the Jhanak pregnancy track abruptly, as we say open ended again. May be, Ani accept Arshi claim easily this time as he will definitely had a thought process of how he didn't accept Jhanak claim though she was right because of MUs, so may be Arshi is also saying right even though he will not remember anything in Arshi case also.

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Posted: 8 months ago
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Dono ke intention mein difference tha simple. Though j ko bhi apnay emotions par control rakhna chahea tha. But jo arshi chahte the woh j nahi chahte the.forcefully aap kise ko apna nahi bana suktay.

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Posted: 8 months ago
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It's good to see people asking logical questions in the forum warna agar runak Ema bhi kare fans will not just justify it but hail it as if it's the most pure thing in the world. And you answered the question yourself, one was done by fl and one by pl and jhanak rani kuch bhi kare, kisi ka ghar tod kar bhi victim card play kare ya apne behen ke fiance ke sath physical ho, everything is fare...
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Posted: 8 months ago
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Dono ke intention mein difference tha simple. Though j ko bhi apnay emotions par control rakhna chahea tha. But jo arshi chahte the woh j nahi chahte the.forcefully aap kise ko apna nahi bana suktay.

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Jhanak did not do this on purpose

The night in Kashmir was initiated by Ani, Jhanak gave in to him in the heat of the moment which is quite human thing to do and she was married to him. Pandit said to Arshi that you can’t break this couple now because they got married with all rasams. You can only break them if annulment or divorce happens.

I agree that Jhanak should have stopped herself, but at 22 years old and being in deep attachment and love with Ani, she just couldn’t stop what transpired. Do I blame her for that? No. Why? Because she did not have bad intentions. And yes she cheated on her Arshi didi, that I accept.

In case of Arshi, who is not married to Anirudh with full rasams, Arshi got an instruction from her mother Shrishti to get pregnant from Anirudh by hook or crook, she came home with him and we don’t know how he got drunk, writer did not show us if he himself got drunk or Arshi made him drink.
So, Arshi is saying imagine my cousin Jhanak in me and you will not feel pain as we have the same blood, with the intention to get pregnant from Ani knowing he only loves Jhanak and now is interested in pursuing Nutan carbon copy of Jhanak. Arshi’s evil intentions are clear to me that she wants to trap Anirudh by becoming mother of his child knowing he doesn’t love her. Arshi is being revengeful or calculative to not lose Ani to Jhanak / Nutan.

While I understand the importance of the rape topic, these two cases you are comparing are not the same to me and many others, because the intention of each of sisters matters more than the outcome in this particular case.

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Posted: 8 months ago
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Originally posted by: Magical_moon

It's good to see people asking logical questions in the forum warna agar runak Ema bhi kare fans will not just justify it but hail it as if it's the most pure thing in the world. And you answered the question yourself, one was done by fl and one by pl and jhanak rani kuch bhi kare, kisi ka ghar tod kar bhi victim card play kare ya apne behen ke fiance ke sath physical ho, everything is fare...

Simply because Ani Arshi are not married with full rasams, technically this will not be an EMA first of all.

it’s not RuNak fans who justify this, but the writer herself is making her story characters to be doing cheating of Didi. However, if you look back at what Shrishti did to her love BB with whom she had gandarva Viva, gave birth to Jhanak, whom she threw away and to Urvashi who picked Jhanak up and gave her motherly love and affection, whatever is happening with Shrishti and her family with Vinayak is justified by karma, because what goes around comes around.

Jhanak was meant to be the one whom Anirudh will fall in love with to the extent that he would want to pursue her despite being in some kind of relationship with Arshi.

Vinayak is actually a doormat who did not take sach ka saat many years ago and he and Shristi happily lived together and cherished Arshi, who is now paying for her mother and father’s misdeeds. Actually both Jhanak and Arshi are paying for their parents misdeeds because BB is not innocent either. He was hiding in ashram and did not help his own daughter who was missing him 22 years.
The only innocent and pure lady in this story is Urvashi, who got only humiliation and character assasination by her own family and Shrishti who has no right to even speak on the matter.

The writer is clear actually with how she uses karma. The only difference for me now is that Anirudh is different than BB. He is taking stand for his love and support her fully.

Arshi knows everything and still turns a blind eye and deaf ears to what is happening.

And even if Ani now tells to BH that he is leaving BH, Arshi will stay with bahu status because family of Ani accepts only Arshi in this role.

I did not justify Jhanak because I agree with you that she came in between Ani Arshi and did not claim her rights of being his wife at the right time. She is at fault but this is her journey to acknowledge her mistakes and accept her love to Anirudh and marry him in a pure way once RuNak clears things with Arshi and Arshi finally leaves Ani. To me both Ani and Jhanak are doormats most of the time, but Ani is at least trying to be clear who is his love and who is his responsibility now.

Edited by DiLaila - 8 months ago
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Originally posted by: DiLaila

Simply because Ani Arshi are not married with full rasams, technically this will not be an EMA first of all.

it’s not RuNak fans who justify this, but the writer herself is making her story characters to be doing cheating of Didi. However, if you look back at what Shrishti did to her love BB with whom she had gandarva Viva, gave birth to Jhanak, whom she threw away and to Urvashi who picked Jhanak up and gave her motherly love and affection, whatever is happening with Shrishti and her family with Vinayak is justified by karma, because what goes around comes around.

Jhanak was meant to be the one whom Anirudh will fall in love with to the extent that he would want to pursue her despite being in some kind of relationship with Arshi.

Vinayak is actually a doormat who did not take sach ka saat many years ago and he and Shristi happily lived together and cherished Arshi, who is now paying for her mother and father’s misdeeds. Actually both Jhanak and Arshi are paying for their parents misdeeds because BB is not innocent either. He was hiding in ashram and did not help his own daughter who was missing him 22 years.
The only innocent and pure lady in this story is Urvashi, who got only humiliation and character assasination by her own family and Shrishti who has no right to even speak on the matter.

The writer is clear actually with how she uses karma. The only difference for me now is that Anirudh is different than BB. He is taking stand for his love and support her fully.

Arshi knows everything and still turns a blind eye and deaf ears to what is happening.

And even if Ani now tells to BH that he is leaving BH, Arshi will stay with bahu status because family of Ani accepts only Arshi in this role.

I did not justify Jhanak because I agree with you that she came in between Ani Arshi and did not claim her rights of being his wife at the right time. She is at fault but this is her journey to acknowledge her mistakes and accept her love to Anirudh and marry him in a pure way once RuNak clears things with Arshi and Arshi finally leaves Ani. To me both Ani and Jhanak are doormats most of the time, but Ani is at least trying to be clear who is his love and who is his responsibility now.

Beautifully explained.... That Leena intention to show but execution matters n in that field it come across too much dilla .... That's y people misunderstood the dynamics of the show

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Posted: 8 months ago
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Originally posted by: Shalinim153

In case of Jhanak, Ani being not in senses still he was the one declaring his love for Jhanak to her, he was the one who approaching her to be with him, to hug him and love him that's why Jhanak also got weak at that moment, and only think about their love and marriage to save him from fever as he was constantly saying this is my last night with you, mjhe nhi jeena.

But in case of Arshi, Ani was not the one who was approaching her, she was forcing him to imagine her as Jhanak, she is doing filthy acts meanwhile Ani was keep chanting Jhanak name only.

Both the nights are totally different.

Nice point. And if I look from Ani’s perspective your point does make some sense. But for me Ani’s actions or inactions hold less value coz he wasn’t in his senses. He once says to j ki agar mein hosh mein hota toh esa kabhi nahi karta.. so what he said or thought in my eyes doesn’t count. Arshi and j were in their senses and more responsible.

See, both j and Arshi are wrong. It’s not like one is right and other isn’t. For me the situations are more and less wrong, where more or less depends upon viewers perspective. Let’s keep the marriage part aside coz iss show mein kisi ki bhi shaadi kisi se nahi hui hai.. har koi imagine karke sab kar rahe hai… I agree what Arshi did is disgusting but still in her case there’s only one person who’s gonna sufferand that’s Ani but in jhanak’s case both ani and Arshi suffered.

What jhanak did has far worse repercussions than what Arshi did. At max Arshi would’ve been preg and for the society she will be preg with her husband… but for jhanak, she would be preg with her sister’s husband. How humiliating it would be for her, Ani, his family and Arshi.. And I feel 22 years isn’t so small that you can’t think about consequences of your actions.

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