KMTMG Discussions Thread #8 - Page 75

Originally posted by: nilmi

Thanks for the update...

another skippable episode..When are they going to end this track?

Never. Or maybe when ratings go down, which seem unlikely

Amu returning can have 2 possibilities. 1) Babita will finally get rid of Ex or plan against her as this 45% deal didn't work. Amu escaped but it ex fault Nimmi held by Rajiv. Ex said to Babita she will get nimmi back but rajiv wont agree. Villians turning against each other must come soon. 2) after Virat tough words to babita she will plan worse with Ex. I'm not sure viewers will tolerate worse as I hope bad TRP is coming for hosatage plot. Who can watch & wait for it to get worse? I mean Varun in Kundali Bhagya & that Farhan in RSD did this & left... so KMTMG needs to wake up stop protecting villians. Its sickening.

Think its also time for villians to fight among each other so Vandy will take turn on her efforts for V A split.

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

Dont know how VA relationship will be after they meet... but either case, I think Ammu will remember what Rajeev said - is baar Ravan ke saath Devi bhi jalegi... and go to a Ravandahan around their area...

ex and 45 %... idk... they do have a lawyer in that bts scene at Ahujas... may be something related to it. Not expecting Nimmi rescue to drag as much... unless there is a VA mu and things related to it... [But Ammu is in that bts scene too at the Ahujas... so perhaps no mu]

Bold: The lawyer could be there for Nimmi Rajiv divorce 51% or Ex 45%. However the lawyer in BTS gives me indication show will continue with in same rubbish. when has police or lawyer ever worked on villians? ... worse villians will get each other out now working together. Only way to get rid of villians is V A plan equally as dirty against them. There are 6 of them. 3 Ahujas & Ex- RAjiv- Ishika. Can they plan dirty on 1 villian and see ratings response?

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

Dont know how VA relationship will be after they meet... but either case, I think Ammu will remember what Rajeev said - is baar Ravan ke saath Devi bhi jalegi... and go to a Ravandahan around their area...

ex and 45 %... idk... they do have a lawyer in that bts scene at Ahujas... may be something related to it. Not expecting Nimmi rescue to drag as much... unless there is a VA mu and things related to it... [But Ammu is in that bts scene too at the Ahujas... so perhaps no mu]

More than the lawyer, ex being there to me signals more of the same crap. Guess she will find a way to stay there forever.

Virat could've even called the police right now and grilled ex about her role in the kidnapping ... but nope... she will be given easier route to continue.

This can be the end of Rajeev... unless he is successful in getting the 51% which he could have even without the kidnapping - dont know how this move helped him.. if anything, it takes him even farther away from it.

VA working together... To me it seems more likely that the villains will fight among each other. Vandy may bring in complications (seems like the only way) b/w them - at least she seems determined to end that relationship... and is likely to be more successful than the villains.

Something On Amruta: Referring back to a thought I mentioned about in one of the recent updates and something you tried to figure out too (probably in the previous thread). Of course, should go without saying trying to make sense of something that may actually be senseless, but giving some weight to 'their intent is good, execution is bad' along with it.

Amruta's faith and trust on Virat - though it seems misplaced and dangerous, do think it is working or will pay off in the long run. [Think its called Pygmalion effect(?)] She likely is bringing her own (mostly unspoken / unshown) imagination of who her husband is or should be onto Virat, who for all intents and purposes is currently a frog (and not a prince).

She has been through 'near married' situation in the past - twice. So guess she is just trying to make the best of what she has got now. Having said that still a puzzle to figure out how she can be okay with the mela thing. (Absence of thought monologues around this is disturbing.)

Writing this, it now seems more possible that she will figure out V is not worth it (perhaps despite him doing good) than V misunderstanding her... will it come soon? hope so... by the end of this track? (music to my ears).

When villians behave crazy like Varun & Farhan. They self distruct & die. So Rajeev will maybe die as no one beleive his arrest will ever work after his return. Hopefully Shares will return to Nimmi & she will be widow rather than divorced if her divorce not signed by Rajiv. This can shut babita up too

@Adiandsid Suggestion about Ex makes me uncomfortable but most likely due to set logistics... i know the question will come later. Why cant she get place of her own @45% ownership?... set logistics. I'm thinking how exposure of Babita giving Ex 45% will occur. I guess we will have to wait till rescue for that 45% exposure.

Pls can I confirm... I'm confused? Did Ex ask for another 45% or ask for 45% she got from babita to hide it was given to her?... what happened to Ex demands after Rajiv asked for money we dont know reason he asked. Dont think virat will rest and leave Ex with that share... maybe when virat discovers babita trf 45% he will want to leave to Dubai Singapore with Amu but Amu will say get it back as @Adiandsid suggested days ago

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

More than the lawyer, ex being there to me signals more of the same crap. Guess she will find a way to stay there forever.

Virat could've even called the police right now and grilled ex about her role in the kidnapping ... but nope... she will be given easier route to continue.

This can be the end of Rajeev... unless he is successful in getting the 51% which he could have even without the kidnapping - dont know how this move helped him.. if anything, it takes him even farther away from it.

VA working together... To me it seems more likely that the villains will fight among each other. Vandy may bring in complications (seems like the only way) b/w them - at least she seems determined to end that relationship... and is likely to be more successful than the villains.

Originally posted by: sugz

When villians behave crazy like Varun & Farhan. They self distruct & die. So Rajeev will maybe die as no one beleive his arrest will ever work after his return. Hopefully Shares will return to Nimmi & she will be widow rather than divorced if her divorce not signed by Rajiv. This can shut babita up too

@Adiandsid Suggestion about Ex makes me uncomfortable but most likely due to set logistics... i know the question will come later. Why cant she get place of her own @45% ownership?... set logistics. I'm thinking how exposure of Babita giving Ex 45% will occur. I guess we will have to wait till rescue for that 45% exposure.

Pls can I confirm... I'm confused? Did Ex ask for another 45% or ask for 45% she got from babita to hide it was given to her?... what happened to Ex demands after Rajiv asked for money we dont know reason he asked. Dont think virat will rest and leave Ex with that share... maybe when virat discovers babita trf 45% he will want to leave to Dubai Singapore with Amu but Amu will say get it back as @Adiandsid days ago

Yeah.. Rajeev's role can be ended. [Dont know what they will go for.]

They are very likely to find some way to make ex stay in Ahuja house - and it will be illogical... but not something new / not done in any other show... everyone does it. I would prefer Rajeev being around - despite his bad angle - than ex.

Nope. ex hasn't asked for anything else from babs / Virat - just the apology from him. But what will happen to that deal with Babs after Ammu ends up coming back is to be seen.

@Adiandsid might not want to hear this. I agree reason Amu puts forced marriage at back of mind is she trying to deal with tough situation. It doesn't help virat makes false promises & empty redemption delaying any Amu realisation virat needs to make firm commitment.

Do you think Amu is just like her mom? The only way to get divorced is if Virat betrays her & asks for divorce like Jayesh.

@Adiandsid - Pygmalion effect. I was going to research it but have writers done it... can they execute it for a character ? is it realistic task in making sense of writers work? There is only 2 responses 2 writers work from my POV - IDK if you will agree. 1) point out errors to confirm I'm not going crazy. 2) Predict errors they make going forward by guessing future plots putting yourself in their amateur lazy twisted head... In short- Give me evidence there is sense in what they write? ( I dont mean it in nasty way)

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

Something On Amruta: Referring back to a thought I mentioned about in one of the recent updates and something you tried to figure out too (probably in the previous thread). Of course, should go without saying trying to make sense of something that may actually be senseless, but giving some weight to 'their intent is good, execution is bad' along with it.

Amruta's faith and trust on Virat - though it seems misplaced and dangerous, do think it is working or will pay off in the long run. [Think its called Pygmalion effect(?)] She likely is bringing her own (mostly unspoken / unshown) imagination of who her husband is or should be onto Virat, who for all intents and purposes is currently a frog (and not a prince).

She has been through 'near married' situation in the past - twice. So guess she is just trying to make the best of what she has got now. Having said that still a puzzle to figure out how she can be okay with the mela thing. (Absence of thought monologues around this is disturbing.)

Writing this, it now seems more possible that she will figure out V is not worth it (perhaps despite him doing good) than V misunderstanding her... will it come soon? hope so... by the end of this track? (music to my ears).

I want to add to this post. How does Amu realise Virat not worth it & still ignore Dildar or Nimmi or Anjali efforts to repair relationship... same will go for Jahan or Harsh on virat. V A having cheerleaders that are not strong characters but still cant be ignored makes long split difficult

On writer evidence I requested... it can go on for days bringing in argument it may be written ok some episodes but time prevents good execution. 100 episodes a plot was written well but Dildar for example doesn't make good on promises today... an episode can sometimes be written well but screwed up by later writing backtracking good episode

Originally posted by: sugz

@Adiandsid might not want to hear this. I agree reason Amu puts forced marriage at back of mind is she trying to deal with tough situation. It doesn't help virat makes false promises & empty redemption delaying any Amu realisation virat needs to make firm commitment.

Do you think Amu is just like her mom? The only way to get divorced is if Virat betrays her & asks for divorce like Jayesh.

@Adiandsid - Pygmalion effect. I was going to research it but have writers done it... can they execute it for a character ? is it realistic task in making sense of writers work? There is only 2 responses 2 writers work from my POV - IDK if you will agree. 1) point out errors to confirm I'm not going crazy. 2) Predict errors they make going forward by guessing future plots putting yourself in their amateur lazy twisted head... In short- Give me evidence there is sense in what they write? ( I dont mean it in nasty way)

Originally posted by: sugz

@Adiandsid might not want to hear this. I agree reason Amu puts forced marriage at back of mind is she trying to deal with tough situation. It doesn't help virat makes false promises & empty redemption delaying any Amu realisation virat needs to make firm commitment.

Do you think Amu is just like her mom? The only way to get divorced is if Virat betrays her & asks for divorce like Jayesh.

@Adiandsid - Pygmalion effect. I was going to research it but have writers done it... can they execute it for a character ? is it realistic task in making sense of writers work? There is only 2 responses 2 writers work from my POV - IDK if you will agree. 1) point out errors to confirm I'm not going crazy. 2) Predict errors they make going forward by guessing future plots putting yourself in their amateur lazy twisted head... In short- Give me evidence there is sense in what they write? ( I dont mean it in nasty way)

The Pygmalion effect is something I infer from what they are showing with Ammu - may not be something they are actually doing. Is it a realistic task to make sense of their work? well... we can... even if we may be way off in our analysis. It may not be what the writer intended but it is what it seems like (to me) after seeing the product. [Are the chem scenes what the chem students take it to be? May be yes, may be no. So is the case with this. ]

It does seem to be working on Virat - especially in these kidnapping eps. Get the impression that he is thoroughly humbled. Should have happened after the clip... but they always delay things with him - after all, it took him 5 hrs to come out of the womb. Would've liked him to be more proactive in what he is doing... but his hallucination scenes seem honest - even if he will never admit to it if she actually comes in front of him. So for the 'long term', I like where he is heading - after all (unfortunately) he is the 'destined one' for her... and this is a good step in that direction, even if he comes across as a 'loser' in the current track. She is changing him. [Now... idk if the past eps will look better if I rewatch it through this perspective.]

More concerned about her faith / belief and the contrast with reality... will that be the thing that breaks the relationship this time? This seems likely to me.

Is Ammu is like her mother? Hmm... Do think that unlike Bhavani she does have a line that someone cant cross... the problem is it seems like the mela incident wasn't that red line. Or may be it was... but she is also shown to give the other party / perpetrator a chance... So perhaps she is aware that he did cross that line... but is now in the 'giving him a chance' phase... and will do the needful when he crosses the line again - painful as it may be for her cause she also loves him (from the Navratri eps).