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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

No idea how the sindoor will land on Jhanak but yeah if Jhanak has mentioned that mandir to Ani also now, toh lag raha hai mandir mein Jhanak ko kuch big sign from God mil sakta hai about how she is meant to be Ani's wifesmiley36

Dunno why but I'm not being able to take this killing plan of Tejas very seriously....I'm doubtful of Jhanak landing in a hospital right now....lag raha hai kisi aur hi direction mein jaayega yeh.

I don't think he's going to kill her AY. ye plan sirf Ani ko distract karne ke liye hoga to make him think she's dead smiley36So that Tejas don't have to deal with Ani again if he tried to do anything with jhanak

Isko pata nahi hai Ani ki "diwanagi" ka smiley16. Dekhte hai kya band bajate hai sir ji iss baar Tejas ki smiley37

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Runak scene in the end was nice cuz they both managed to talk nicely without MUs....lol that's always a rare sight smiley36

Jhanak has already moved on to teasing Ani about his AK waali MU ki main toh Mumbai mein AK ke saath rehti hoon nasmiley37.....this is big progress in managing his jealousy that she can tease him about it rather than getting angry smiley36...and aage se Ani was pouting ki Jhanak tum mere shabdon ko pakadti ho, mere dil mein kya hai woh kabhi nahin samajhti smiley36

And waah kya badle badle tevar of Jhanak Rani....khud insist kar rahi thi Ani ko soup pilaane kasmiley36...who would believe this sight after so many scenes of Ani having to plead with her ki khaana khaa lo mere haath sesmiley36.....Ani was totally enjoying the pampering like a happy kidsmiley36.

But then Ani came back to the only topic hovering in his mind ki Jhanak 2-4 din ke baad chali jaayegi kya? smiley36....Ghoom phir ke puchh liya her plans after the ad shoot and she told him she has to go back for the movie shoot in Mumbai....Ani was like meri wajah se tumhara kaam affect ho raha hai na toh she was like no it's nothing like that.....then she said that she will come back to Kolkata again so that they can both visit that mandir where she prayed for him....lol achha so Jhanak is not expecting to go to that mandir in this round? But shayad is baar program ban jaaye bhagwaan ki marzi sesmiley36

Ani then jumped to using the "mujhe nahin lagta main zinda bachunga" card againsmiley37....he's like itni young age mein heart attack hona - I don't get mere saath aisa kyun hua...and phir toh mujhe yehi lagta hai ki main tumhare bina nahin jee paunga....lol very smart, Sirji....ghoom phir ke yaad dilata rahega Jhanak ko that he can't live without hersmiley36....haath bhi pakad liya phir se and tabhi Chudail Didi dhamak padi to mockingly clap.

Ab kal bakwaas karegi Didi as usual.....Jhanak told Ani today that she doesn't want him to get upset with Arshi toh Ani is like main kab tamasha karta hoon - saamne se koi kuch bolta hai toh main kaise chup rahungasmiley36.....hopefully Ani remembers this tomorrow when Arshi tries to talk crap to him and Jhanaksmiley36

Bold: ye madam aisi hi hai lol. She doesn't want sirji to do anything for her but she herself wants to do everything for him smiley17

Last time when she was playing nurse tab bhi she wanted to do everything for him. Khana bhi khud hi khilana chahti thi , medicine bhi , pani bhi, juice bhi smiley37smiley37. Earlier I thought it was guilt isliye itni seva kar rahi hai .....but when arshi was there to help Ani , jhanak rani was getting so irritated with her jaise koi maa apne chote se baby ko kisi ko Dena nahi chahti thinking koi or care hi nahi kar sakta .....she was behaving exactly like that. Uska hi HAQ hai.

Later after kashmir night she was pissed at Ani.......phir bhi she was thusooing his mouth with soup ki pilo ab isko smiley37smiley37smiley37.

Lol hume jhanak rani ke bhi shabdo pe nahi jana chahiye ....according to her actions sirji only belongs to her ,according to her words he cannot be with her smiley37She was telling him in hospital agar didi aapke sath hoti to main chali jati but aaj kh rahi hai agar didi ayegi toh or ache se dekhbhaal karungi. Jaban se zeher ugalti hai but she always behave like mother tigress when hes physically weak smiley36

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: ninaMAXWELL08

Lol hume jhanak rani ke bhi shabdo pe nahi jana chahiye ....according to her actions sirji only belongs to her ,according to her words he cannot be with her smiley37She was telling him in hospital agar didi aapke sath hoti to main chali jati but aaj kh rahi hai agar didi ayegi toh or ache se dekhbhaal karungi. Jaban se zeher ugalti hai but she always behave like mother tigress when hes physically weak smiley36

+100smiley36.....isliye mujhe aaj itni irritation bhi nahin ho rahi Jhanak ki logic sesmiley36

Her words and actions were all over the place today.....and Bodoma wala scene showed clearly that Jhanak ko bhi pata hai uski logic mein holes hain and her emotions are overpowering whatever claims she's making about nahin reh sakti Sirji ke saathsmiley36...that's why she was avoiding answering when Bodoma asked her directly ki tumhein samajh aa gaya hai na ki tum Ani ke liye kitni zaroori ho?

Yehi emotions ki wajah se soup bana rahi hai apne haathon se, insisting on feeding him apne haathon se too....lol ekdum mama bear bani hui hai Ani ke liye toh lag toh nahin raha she will relinquish him to Arshi so easily despite what she's sayingsmiley36

Woh line hilarious thi when Jhanak Rani suddenly flipped to taunting evil gang that Arshi didi aate hi chillana shuru kar dengi toh Sirji ki tabiyat phir se na kharaab ho jaaye and mujhe toh aur double dhyaan rakhna padega phirsmiley37

Frankly Runak puri family ko maha ullu banake apne mann ki kar rahe hain ekdumsmiley36.....ismein kisi ki bhi side lene ka point nahin....dono hi nautanki kar rahe hain but apna ishq bhi farma rahe hain side by side mazey meinsmiley36

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Posted: 1 years ago

New BTS from the ad shoot....looks like it's going to be another jewelry adsmiley36

Jhanak is imagining Ani putting the necklace on hersmiley36....and itna practice karna pad raha hai inko to get the placement of the necklace right....lol Krushal-Hiba were goofing around as usual smiley36

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX-IgqFRsXU

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Woh line hilarious thi when Jhanak Rani suddenly flipped to taunting evil gang that Arshi didi aate hi chillana shuru kar dengi toh Sirji ki tabiyat phir se na kharaab ho jaaye and mujhe toh aur double dhyaan rakhna padega phirsmiley37

Frankly Runak puri family ko maha ullu banake apne mann ki kar rahe hain ekdumsmiley36.....ismein kisi ki bhi side lene ka point nahin....dono hi nautanki kar rahe hain but apna ishq bhi farma rahe hain side by side mazey meinsmiley36

Bold: wahi toh. Lage raho nautanki karne main or aise hi nautankiya karte karte yeh ek Din arshi didi ko bhi bada HA de dengay smiley37

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: ninaMAXWELL08

Bold: ye madam aisi hi hai lol. She doesn't want sirji to do anything for her but she herself wants to do everything for him smiley17

Last time when she was playing nurse tab bhi she wanted to do everything for him. Khana bhi khud hi khilana chahti thi , medicine bhi , pani bhi, juice bhi smiley37smiley37. Earlier I thought it was guilt isliye itni seva kar rahi hai .....but when arshi was there to help Ani , jhanak rani was getting so irritated with her jaise koi maa apne chote se baby ko kisi ko Dena nahi chahti thinking koi or care hi nahi kar sakta .....she was behaving exactly like that. Uska hi HAQ hai.

Later after kashmir night she was pissed at Ani.......phir bhi she was thusooing his mouth with soup ki pilo ab isko smiley37smiley37smiley37.

Lol hume jhanak rani ke bhi shabdo pe nahi jana chahiye ....according to her actions sirji only belongs to her ,according to her words he cannot be with her smiley37She was telling him in hospital agar didi aapke sath hoti to main chali jati but aaj kh rahi hai agar didi ayegi toh or ache se dekhbhaal karungi. Jaban se zeher ugalti hai but she always behave like mother tigress when hes physically weak smiley36

Jhanak Rani ko bilkul sahi pakde hain!! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Aaj Tejas ne bhi clear kar diya Jhanak rani saamne ho toh sabko smart, intelligent banna hoga ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

New BTS from the ad shoot....looks like it's going to be another jewelry adsmiley36

Jhanak is imagining Ani putting the necklace on hersmiley36....and itna practice karna pad raha hai inko to get the placement of the necklace right....lol Krushal-Hiba were goofing around as usual smiley36

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX-IgqFRsXU

Every time we get only dream or imaginary romance of Runak, when we will get actual romance or will we ever get an actual romance in the show?

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Originally posted by: sanfan

This is an interesting perspective and as a person who has keenly observed Aniโ€™s character traitsโ€ฆ. .i feel compelled to respond to this post.

Before responding to your specific points, I wish to detour a bit; so please bear with meโ€ฆ

When a relationship breaks down, itโ€™s said that only the two involved can actually say what went wrongโ€ฆ but here we are privy to whatโ€™s happening so we can pass judgment or be fence sitters etc That said, as viewers we may have different ways in which they we see thisโ€ฆ

Broadly, the theme being explored in this context by Leena appears to be incompatibility..This has been clear in the narrative for a long time but since Leena has less manoeuvrability to do this within the itv structure she has thrown the curveball of โ€œseparationโ€ when there hasnโ€™t even been a real wedding between Arshi and Ani but take this as an euphemism and proceed ahead. It is a recognition of the fact that irrespective of whatever you call the relationship, the fact they were committed to each other in the past and are staled to move onโ€ฆ so what do they do? How do they reconcile the past especially since there is a new budding relationship at stake?

Generally, two people with extremely different temperaments , vastly different disposition often make a go of relationships but usually one trait that helps these relationships along the way is general level of tolerance for differences in the other. I donโ€™t see that in the Ani Arshi relationship. Itโ€™s never necessary for two individuals in a relationship to agree on every aspect.. but usually in a healthy relationship, the partner makes his/her displeasure known and the partners together negotiate the tricky situation. Either one accepts the otherโ€™s perspective or they both agree to disagree and negotiate the tough time. Failing both, differences continue to persist and deepens.

Aniโ€™s sensitivity towards certain matters was a known thread in this narrative. Right from the first of the Kashmir episodes, Aniโ€™s empathy for the underdog was evident and while he may not have initiated the rebellion of sorts by Jhanak ( orchestrated by Arshi) but he went with the spirit and later the events spiralled out of control.

the decisions he took at that point, he was acting on instinct and his sense of righteousness; to have a partner with whom he could have bounced off would have been great but situationally the chance was missedโ€ฆ from then on he was basically playing catch up or to put it bluntly was looking to balance matters.In fact, he was strongly of the opinion that Arshi would support him even if no one understood him. That mirage shattered soon enough ( probably around the time Jhanak tries to go back to Kashmir ( with Tejas the first time) and from then onโ€ฆ. he kept finding ways in which he could just do things for Jhanak trying to keep it from Arshi so that there is peace. In this narrative, Aniโ€™s attempts to convince Arshi were there and Arshi appeared to have bought it too at certain points but the relentless pressure from her mom played havoc in their relationship and her own self doubt made it futile at other times. They never showed the two sitting down and discussing the matter of Jhanak except as a way to obfuscate on Aniโ€™s end and threatening on Arshiโ€™s end. By this I mean, Ani wasnโ€™t entirely honest with Arshi and Arshi was refusing to treat this as an issue close to Aniโ€™s heart. Thus they never tried to find a solution that keeps both parties happy.. Aniโ€™s trait of finding path of least resistance also played a part in thisโ€ฆThe battle of ends vs means while facing a battalion who refused to do even the bare minimum in terms of humanity. On the other hand, Arshi treated this as an ego battle largely and she was shown confused, overbearing, threatening in turnsโ€ฆ Who bears more responsibility is something we can have different perspectives on and this is akin to a lot of he said she said etc. Viewers at this stage can take sides on who precipitated the downfall in the relationship etc but the deathknell for the relationship had begun.

At Aniโ€™s end, the more he tried to keep things quietโ€ฆthe more it got messier and it perhaps didnโ€™t help that Ani was forming a deep association with Jhanak as this happened. His intention to help Jhanak was also getting enmeshed with his heartโ€™s desire deeper and deeper. There is a dialogue between Ani and Jhanak during the Rahul fiasco where Jhanak asks him duniya main kitne log takleef main toh kya sabki madad karenge? Ani simply responds โ€œ Unme se koi Jhanak nahinโ€ Yet, in all this saga, Ani kept trying to reconcile with Arshi too whether by choice or by compulsion.

Coming to Arshi, โ€ฆ The narrative presents to us( me) an Arshi who is like any other person, who is quite proud of her accomplishments, gentle to begin with but clearly with a sense of superiority. Jhanak was a project for her fleetingly. When she took the mantle to help Jhanak, it was largely pity that motivated her.. well nothing wrong in thatโ€ฆ a lot of people respond to people in need out of that but such empathy is generally skin deep. Arshi deeply misunderstood Aniโ€™s sense of empathy. Ani never responded to Jhanak out of pity. It was with a deep sense of empathy for her circumstances. It was in this crucial phase where the two partners were deeply divided.
From then on, Arshi started calling the shots on how this help for Jhanak must be directed without realising that for Ani the association was personal. Ani should take responsibility for not conveying his emotions to Arshi honestly and maybe they would have either parted amicably then or fought and resolvedโ€ฆ it one way or the other. Aniโ€™s trait of keeping things bottled up definitely led to the crisis but it wasnโ€™t done with the intention to deceive Arshi to begin with. The deception began much later from Ani but by then Arshi was playing a game of her own. thereโ€™s a dialogue from Arshi at some stage where she is questioning Ani with a knowing look but acting as if the answer doesnโ€™t bother her. The stakes had got bigger for her and her ego couldnโ€™t settle for losing to a lowly person. These two just werenโ€™t honest to each other in different ways.
Apportioning of blame is an easy matterโ€ฆ itโ€™s the introspection that is difficult. Itโ€™s in this place that Leena I think tries to balance the perspectives. Thereโ€™s a sense of fait accompli in the Ani Arshi relationship where both do not make a genuine attempt to resolve cos perhaps they both donโ€™t want it enough or o want it only oneโ€™s own terms. The narrative is clear and I think we must make this distinction that while Ani may owe Arshi something due to his dalliance with Jhanak and keeping Arshi in the dark, the narrative also treats Ani as an individual in a relationshipโ€ฆ who has the freedom to make decisions that may or may not be acceptable to the other partner. Ani doesnโ€™t lose autonomy in that and this where the point of incompatibility comes into play.

Obviously this is a fictional story so, there wil be an attempt to shine light on one perspective more than the other but at a broader level, I am reading this simply as an incompatible partnership; the Arshi presented to me was one who felt Ani had no autonomy and things must proceed as per her or her motherโ€™s wish. Yes, there were points where she felt Aniโ€™s betrayal as a slight or pain ( I couldnโ€™t tell) As viewers, we can react to either or both emotions. Personally, I can say, Arshiโ€™s sense of betrayal could have been a powerful tale but only if Arshi did something with that other than threatening Ani.

now coming to your specific point on his rudeness with Arshiโ€ฆ the way I see itโ€ฆ Aniโ€™s love for Jhanak asideโ€ฆ he is expressing that he did not find Arshi by his side in his biggest battle. He may not have chosen the best words to articulate that He may have expectations of her just as Arshi had of him. Ofc he is not completely honest in his perspective about how that came about but can we say that he alone is to blame for the downfall of this relationship? Hypothetically, if Arshi had supported his decision to support Jhanak ( even if it wasnโ€™t whole hearted), Ani may have still fallen in love with Jhanakโ€ฆ. Personally for me, then.. it would have been easier to lay the blame solely at his doorโ€ฆ but here the narrative is telling me they both werenโ€™t compatibleโ€ฆ they did not make attempt to resuscitate the relationship. Ani has a bigger cross to bear ( due to his traits) and this narrative will make him bear it but Arshi too didnโ€™t invest enough in the relationship to resolve the differences.

Now coming to your charge of Ani making Arshi a cold person, the narrative hasnโ€™t given me sufficient clues to say that.. Here, no one was expecting Arshi to be warm to Jhanakโ€ฆ in any relationship of this kind, three is a crowd so Arshi being nice to Jhanak wasnโ€™t part of the deal but humane definitely wasโ€ฆ you decide your level of humanityโ€ฆ that has nothing to do with anyone (Ani and his actions for Jhanak) . Aniโ€™s expectation from Arshi and others was only humanity and they all fell short of it. Ani wasnโ€™t bothered by the reaction of others but yes that of Arshi would have unsettled him. I am not saying that has anything to do with him falling in love with Jhanakโ€ฆ I repeat he did not fall in love with Jhanak due to Arshiโ€™s behaviourโ€ฆ thatโ€™s his own doing and nowhere in the narrative is that connectedโ€ฆwhich is again the beauty of the narrative so far. What Ani owes to Arshi is a heartfelt apology for his emotional infidelity towards Arshi ( physical yes but he was unaware ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚) and which is why I say he has a bigger cross to bear than anyone else and this will surely bear out in the narrativeโ€ฆ also the place where Jhanakโ€™s love for Ani will be most visibleโ€ฆ Arshi taking this insult to a different level ( if Arshi remains relevant in the tale) will be a matter for the lovebirds to negotiate.Ani is not afraid to be accountable for his mistakes and that is a strong ML in my eyesโ€ฆ As for the characterisation of FLโ€ฆ I understand the gymnastics the writers are having to deal with ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ so letโ€™s see how it. I do think the arc of Jhanak will also grow substantially given the love and care the writer has shown for Ani in building up his arcโ€ฆ how much of it will meet audience expectations I canโ€™t sayโ€ฆ


Sorry for the long post.. wasnโ€™t my intention to make this long detour ๐Ÿ˜‚ but I have a tendency to digress ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Please feel free to pen your thoughts, I have tagged some hereโ€ฆ if I miss others donโ€™t hesitate to air your thoughtsโ€ฆ

100% for the most part. I think Ani fell for Jhanak very early on, he could not stay away from her; empathy played a role, but even if J was not in a position of helplessness; Ani would have still not have been able to stay away. The way he constantly sought her out in Kashmir - her circumstances seemed more a reason for him to reach out - rather than the sole purpose to connect with her.

Even as he started more and more exerting his right on J; he did not get any encouragement from her and instead he was reminded constantly of his commitment to Arshi. He had no choice but to supress and not allow himself to consider or acknowledge any emotion for her. His emotional cheating started very early - when he not only bought her the white red saree but further emotionally blackmailed her into accepting his first gift. Re-iterating his vows with J blatantly while deceiving Arshi did not have its basis in empathy; saying there were people in BH who loved her; telling her not to fight on the day of their rasam; feeling compulsion to get her a wedding gift; all these can indicate an intentional supression of his feelings; sicne he knows there can be no path forward for them without intense confrontation but being unaware of his feelings; for a person as deep as Ani - is very difficult to swallow.

He definitely tried to do the right thing by Arshi by going along with marriage to her; esp after the accident; but his monologue during the wedding also made it clear that had J accepted their marriage he would have done everything in his power to retain his marriage to her.

My biggest grouse with Ani is and will always be - why did he marry Arshi when he knew he loved J. Regardless of whether J reciprocated his affections; he knew he was putting a performance for Arshi - he acknowledged it himself to J. Why tell Arshi he loved her; why insist she was his wife publicly; when he clearly had a monologue that he did not consider himself married to her. Why beg Arshi not to leave BH many times, when he clearly knew he was struggling to live with her. Ani right now is being let off the hook rather easily for his mistakes. I do believe something big is coming for him from Leena. So far they have never had Ani fully think through his mistakes - he always seems to skim through his mistakes at a superficial level; and have a level of justification tied to Arshi's behavior. He needs to take full accountability for his repeated mistakes (allowing J to be called a maid, insulted, flirting with Arshi to cause J grief) and I have no doubt Leena will ensure this will happen. Telling J - you latch on my words and not my feelings is a very weak excuse after all the vicious abuse he has piled on her.

I'm waiting for Runak - but not until Ani gets a full understanding of his mistakes; sheds his entitled attitude with J and grows a backbone with respect to Arshi and BH.

On one hand he says; he wants Jhanak and when he gets pushback then it is qualified with till he is OK. Thats going back to his old ways of short term thinking - which is very detrimental for Jhanak and her treatment by BH evils. Till Ani is clear in telling Arshi - he does not consider them married and asks her to leave - settles their public standing,.....he has no right to ask or expect anything of Jhanak.

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To add to this, both Ani and J are "humane" as characters and similar-minded in more ways than one, so they "clicked" like "hand" in "glove" - which in reality is the case for any relationship that lasts long - compatibility! To an extent, that when the treatment they have meted out to eo and the words their tongues have lashed out , at eo, is unforgivable from a viewer's POV, these two are oblivious, they behave like business as usual and carry on with the rest of their lives n days, like nothing happened!

Arshi lacks compassion hence gels well with the rest of BH ! Not to forget delulu BH fans her ego n misguides her time n again urging her to stay back, when she wants to leave ! The entire evil clan "conveniently" loves to live in their delulu world and guilt trip Ani and J !

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Agree to your take here Rekha ! It was a great read ! For me, I side a character based on a few attributes -

1. Is the character humane with innate goodness?

2. Is the character reacting or behaving in a certain way, due to a situation he/she finds himself/herself in?

For me, Arshi the character sealed the deal, when she brutally broke off J's shaka pola and wiped her sindoor off. Worse still, was, she gloating about how lucky J was to find a life partner in Uncle Groom Avinash who would take J on foreign trips ! Not to forget the innumerable times she has plotted with her mom and brought Tejas to J's life, the latest stunt still to unfold!

From then on, I sit smugly and enjoy Didi's downfall, when ever I get it, pop corn in hand, guilt free ! Like I say Arshi has absolutely no innate goodness , hence no sense of guilt either !

How else can you leave another human being (let alone your supposed husband) dying at a roadside dhaba and come back to the hospital n keep repeating he is still acting and the doctors too!

I believe in Karma and I am waiting for Karma to be a real B*tch and bite this mother/daughter duo real hard ! Karma has given Arshi her dues time n again, but I want it to be even bigger with a lot of bells and whistles ! Bring it on !

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