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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: Arey woh doctor was basically trying to give a hint ki woh Jhanak ko laayega Nurse banaa kesmiley36.....usko samajh aa gaya tha ki Ani nahin maanega Jhanak ke bina but family ke saamne he didn't want to say it directly, isliye indirectly hint de raha tha ki you will be happy with the new nurse we bring for yousmiley36

Ani didn't know na what's cooking in the Doctor's mind and kaise bahar planning chal rahi hai with Jhanak to come in as the nursesmiley36

Ab kal ke epi mein bhi yeh log bahut nautanki karenge nurse ko lekar pakka once Jhanak shows up in her disguise alsosmiley36.....

And yeah aaj Sirji bahut confident the ki Jhanak ki kamzori unki beemari hi hai aur woh bhaagi bhaagi aayegi unke paas beemari ka sunkesmiley36

future mein is fam ko jhelna pare shaid doctor ko,ubhe se practice start ker le, agar Mimi ko ghaas daalta ha to smiley37
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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: Dibya_C

Whatever Anirudh will do to get J back in his life, I will support now onwards..and this is not because of Anishit incompatibility, but due to the fact that he deserves to be happy..I mean look at his parents! Their son was about to die, still they are supporting Arshi and not listening to their son's pleas...I enjoyed the dialoguebaji between Bips and Ani when Ani sarcastically commented about Arshi's concern about his health...This Anirudh understands who are his real apne log...and he will fight to keep these people as close to him as possible...

While this track highlights the difference between J and Arshi when it comes to loving Ani in difficult times, it also gives a hint of the difference between Ani and Arshi when giving respect to their long time association...Ani sacrificed his happiness to bring Arshi back to normalcy after the aag incident...he even overlooked his love for J and disappointed her with his demand for sacrificing the trophy...On the contrary, Arshi neither felt the need to be thankful for his unwavering support during her tough times nor remained present in his difficult times...I still believe if Arshi remained by his side during this health emergency, he would have kept his feelings for J hidden and prioritised his adhi shadi with Arshi...but complete lack of compassion on the part of Arshi has driven Ani against her now..

@bold: Yes, this track has made that contrast between Ani and Arshi stark....and I so wish some character in the story would point it out atleast....not a single person so far has reminded Arshi what all Ani did for her during the burning track.....hope atleast the useless good Bose gang will open their mouths - especially Bodomaa would be good for this cuz she's so disgusted with Arshi now.

And yes, I also agree that Ani was sincerely trying to sacrifice his love for Jhanak and make things work with Arshi during that time period but she didn't support him one bit in return and was constantly ungrateful and disrespectful about all the care he was giving her....

Ani is finally realizing that he wasted SO much time trying to give compassion to people who don't give a shit about him....that is why he is clinging to Jhanak so hard now because his heart, his soul has recognized that she is the only person who actually cares about his life, the one who makes him want to live.....and he is now going to fight for his happiness.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: ninaMAXWELL08

Bold : such a hypocrite she is smiley24

LOL there are no saints in this story basically smiley36....both Jhanak and Ani are messed up in different ways but perfect mess to handle each othersmiley36

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Posted: 1 years ago

Cheap Mimi ub doctor se bhi chipak rahi ha 🤣😄doctor sb dum dabba kar bhaag jao. Bura phaso gasmiley36

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: Dibya_C

While I really enjoyed your interpretation of J's character growth, I cannot relate to J understanding Anirudh's part in keeping her father's identity a secret.. atleast in the beginning there are chances that J will not understand his pov... because Leena has shown multiple times that J is very sensitive about her mother's status...so when she will come to know about her father's identity, at the same time she will know that Anirudh knew it and he kept her mother's last letter a secret...I feel this will bring the biggest crack in Runak equation, atleast from J's side...

Coming to Arshi...the way things are unfolding, she is no more relevant in Runak equation..she will be kept relevant untill Anishit marriage is declared invalid, which will happen soon...after that due to Srishti and Vinayak's past with Urvashi, Arshi and J will be directly connected and not through Anirudh..how it will be done, that is yet to be seen...for that BBG identity reveal is necessary...time to time Leena will bring Arshi to create problems between Runak...but she will no longer be the dominant cause of problem between Runak...Arshi will be relevant in the story in her own right... that's why she is placed in the montage along with Runak..

I did not say that she will completely understand… depending on how the serial is placed then…

If Ani is in the doldrums in the track preceding that, his upliftment will come through the BBG track. Ofc it’s a writer’s prerogative but the letter reveal depending on Jhanak status in life will vindicate Ani’s stand or put him in more misery. But….. here’s where it is a matter of how writer perceives the action. Her ideological bent of mind will influence how it goes.

In life, not all decisions can be seen through the prism of right and wrong.. even if all decisions will look at ethics and that is also a tough question.

This serial at different points of time makes you consider it…

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: ninaMAXWELL08

my only problem with her was the way she shot Ani down without even hearing what he wanted to say. Thinking he's doing do nav ki sawari and all. Ani pe nahi toh ek baar khud pe hi bharosa kar leti ......that the person she is in love with can't be a philanderer smiley36.

That's all coming from her brain firing random half-baked thoughts in frustration smiley36....the core of all this is wohi na that she badly wants Ani....just for herself smiley36. Toh whenever woh nahin milta, her mind also goes down a rabbit hole of darkness to presume the worst about himsmiley36

Both Ani and Jhanak do this about each other and still love each other madly....yeh crackpots hain donosmiley36

Isliye toh I laugh ki har baar ek dusre ke baare mein itna bakwaas sochne ke baad bhi they are giving each other puppy eyessmiley37....us pure track mein she was thinking Ani used and threw her for one night and Ani was thinking that she got pregnant by some other guy but they were still giving puppy eyes to each other and yearning for each other onlysmiley37

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: Yes, this track has made that contrast between Ani and Arshi stark....and I so wish some character in the story would point it out atleast....not a single person so far has reminded Arshi what all Ani did for her during the burning track.....hope atleast the useless good Bose gang will open their mouths - especially Bodomaa would be good for this cuz she's so disgusted with Arshi now.

And yes, I also agree that Ani was sincerely trying to sacrifice his love for Jhanak and make things work with Arshi during that time period but she didn't support him one bit in return and was constantly ungrateful and disrespectful about all the care he was giving her....

Ani is finally realizing that he wasted SO much time trying to give compassion to people who don't give a shit about him....that is why he is clinging to Jhanak so hard now because his heart, his soul has recognized that she is the only person who actually cares about his life, the one who makes him want to live.....and he is now going to fight for his happiness.

Yes...now onwards he will prioritise only those who want him to be happy and healthy from bottom of their hearts... remember, how he was reluctant to meet his family when J informed him that his family is waiting outside...but when she mentioned that Apudi is waiting, he immediately asked for her...❣️

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

LOL there are no saints in this story basically smiley36....both Jhanak and Ani are messed up in different ways but perfect mess to handle each othersmiley36

Yes that’s the point 😂😂😂

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

That's all coming from her brain firing random half-baked thoughts in frustration smiley36....the core of all this is wohi na that she badly wants Ani....just for herself smiley36. Toh whenever woh nahin milta, her mind also goes down a rabbit hole of darkness to presume the worst about himsmiley36

Both Ani and Jhanak do this about each other and still love each other madly....yeh crackpots hain donosmiley36

Isliye toh I laugh ki har baar ek dusre ke baare mein itna bakwaas sochne ke baad bhi they are giving each other puppy eyessmiley37....us pure track mein she was thinking Ani used and threw her for one night and Ani was thinking that she got pregnant by some other guy but they were still giving puppy eyes to each other and yearning for each other onlysmiley37

toxic partners 😝

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Posted: 1 years ago

With everything she has seen her Sirji do, going against his family n the mom-daughter duo, it is hard to believe that J is convinced that Ani would not leave Arshi !

Quite the contrary, she knows even a slightest nod from her end, and Ani would create a frenzy! Which is why, during the scene where Ani declares himself the King of the World and speaks about a toofan in his life, J in her mono decides to cut him short !

Main janti hu aap kaha jana chah rahe hai aur mujhe apko rokna hoga! She stops him the 2nd time during feeding him Yakhni Pulao just before she leaves for Kashmir with aisa kuchh matt kahiye jisse main uncomfortable ho jayu! Instance 3, is the train convo where she again rejects him and Ani moans 'tum mujhe reject kar rahi ho, main tumhe q nehi kar pa raha'!

During the fateful Kashmir night, J says "Aapko pata hai aapko mere bina rehna hoga, main aapke zindegi mein aake aur toofan nehi khada kar sakti" and then when they return to BH, when Ani suggests if they could run away as he is society n family ka ghulam, she cuts him short with aapne promise kiya hai ki aap Arshi didi ke sath rahenge, to which Ani says agar tum gussa ho rahi ho toh main aur kuchh nehi kahunga - coz he is under mortal fear that she might leave him and go!

I have debated whether this is a moral high ground that she seeks,haath jhaar li, with meri koi galti nehi hai, while expecting Ani to do all the heavy lifting - breaking off with Arshi and claiming J to be his wife in front of his family n society, despite how many times she rejects n says to Ani that she could not bother less, she wants Ani to realise that she means exactly just the opposite of what she mouths i.e. she wants Ani to claim her and wants Ani exclusively to herself!

There is definitely the fear of the home wrecker tag, having grown up with the stigma! Can't blame her for it , as she has lived the nightmare n is about to prove ppl right ! Just how luck would have it ! She made an exception for her bacha, otherwise this has been a constant conflict for J!

There is fear of Ani being abandoned by his family and she has seen how much attached Ani is to his family n how protective he gets when it comes to his family , irrespective of the junk most of them are !

And then there is the abhimaan that this 21 year old nurses against her Sirji- that of mujhe muh se bolna q padega, aap samajh jao aise hi ! Ani has portrayed his share of abhimaan as well with - during train convo "abb main tumhe dubara phone nehi karunga, tum karogi mujhe phone" ; when J went to Mumbai - 'jo chala gaya, bina bataye, woh chala gaya, abb jo hai usika main kheyal rakhunga" , "koi J ka naam nehi lega iss ghar mein" ; and the latest Mumbai hospital - "Main tumhe contact nehi karunga but tum mujhe contact karogi aur mujhe uss din ka intezar rahega"

Not to forget that these two innately good souls suffer from a fair share of guilt, they do not want to hurt any one intentionally or otherwise, just that fate played it's hand in here! Arshi didi ke maze hai, no goodness hence no sense of guilt either - which is why I enjoy guilt-free when these two take dumb didi for a ride n create a ruckus in her life, mujhe bada maz ata hai smiley37

In dono ke internal conflicts itne hai, ki yehi gol gol ghumte mil jayenge dono hume!

Originally posted by: sanfan

Bold - 😂😂😂 kehna mushkil hain..my own experience of itv watching is poor… so far there are only 4-5 serials that I have watched start to almost end smiley37smiley37 so you can imagine my experience and judgment 😂😂

if a serial doesn’t draw me in 2 weeks I am usually out…vision and writing is my first criterion followed by lead chemistry. I like characters that have neatly fleshed out traits. For instance, one stark difference between Ani & Jhanak is pride. Ani doesn’t attach a lot of importance to that aspect and Jhanak keeps that as the cornerstone of pretty much everything she does. Ani could stake everything and his pride to ensure Jhanak had a better life. Jhanak couldn’t appreciate the better life if it involved ignominy… Jhanak never understood what Ani prioritised in this journey and Ani never understood what Jhanak’s reservations about this kind of a journey were.

The problem and beauty in a contrarian way in this story is there is not much of an external conflict so stretching it will cause for degenerative plot lines and loss of characterisation. But the personality conflict from which the story derives its heft can be explored but it also needs to be resolved decently in time as a love story has a shelf life… the love can go on forever 😂😂

Jhanak’s outpourings of Didi jhaap is only a mukhota and I don’t see that as odd; Given her circumstances; being constantly having to use the back door entry for anything, she resents that position strongly. She is an adiyal of a different kind. 😂😂 but that adiyalpan also has hues… it’s like in at least 3-4 shades.

The Jhanak who was first brought to BH by Ani and the ways in which Ani had to work overtime in inventive ways to keep her there. It took her a long time and an understanding that Ani was attached/attracted to her to make her indulgent towards Ani yet not completely as she genuinely felt the relationship had no future knowing Arshi was in the mix. She indulged him but never encouraged him.

The Jhanak that left for Kashmir and the one that returned from Kashmir, as also the we see now, there is different kind of ziddipan 😂😂 but it has a common thread in that too… her place has to be from the front door!!

Maya made an insightful observation that she found Jhanak’s behaviour post intimacy strange or unacceptable ( story wise). This show posits the principal characters and gives them actions that are justifiable or explainable.. Jahan woh khade hain wahan se woh sahi hain aur agar galat hain toh bhi unki fitrat hain…

After intimacy,… it’s here that you see a Jhanak who has a different personality. Its unfortunate that for the sake of the twist, Leena did not reveal the post intimacy scenes… Surely a girl as young as Jhanak would have experienced something significant post intimacy but the narrative decided to gloss over it… What Jhanak went through is something I am analyse in hindsight …The night of intimacy, was preceded by the panditji cancelling the Ani-Arshi wedding, Ani’s plan for Jhanak -Rahul wedding, It had already caused a lot of stress where her dil ki baat zubaan par aa gayi

Also, the mental barriers she crossed mustn’t have been easy. She gave in to his entreaties even knowing that he may not remember much the next day. Such was the force of the love/attraction they felt that the long held inhibitions were forgotten. She instinctively knew his illness was exacerbated by her tongue lashing and she gives in to those suppressed feelings. The morning after, reality strikes… Ani is hesitant in both his approach ( he doesn’t genuinely remember ofc the dialogues were vague), and his conduct as if he was weighing in possibilities how to deal with the new reality of keeping Jhanak part of his life. As Ani was choosing words to handle this, the phone from Arshi comes and Ani goes on to the acting mode… taking the actions of the night as an aberration for Ani, she dons a mask and hardens her stance. To stake the relationship on a night of intimacy when she let go so many other giveaway signs… would have been hard. She already moved away earlier knowing that Ani won’t stake his relationship with Arshi so this dilly dallying scene she misreads as Ani of the yore ( do naav main savaar)

Ani knows Jhanak loves him and so gets her back to BH and reminds her of the promise, Jhanak’s reaction is baliistic ( like in the earlier phase - a sort of regression to the older Jhanak who was quick to take offence at every slight) Jhanak on the other hand sees Ani as opportunistic for the first time. Jhanak isn’t kind or understanding when she tells off Ani ( who has just about mustered the courage to air his real feelings to her) as she is still reading him as wanting to balance the relationships.

She is a case of once bitten twice shy!! in fact I find her pretty clear in what she wants - irrespective of what she mouths.. She wants Ani exclusively!! At the moment she lacks the courage to go after her heart’s desire. Her jhaap isn’t mahanta and any dialogues is all jhoot…or just meant to obfuscate.Call it whatever you want, I sense her withdrawal is about her lack of conviction that Ani can be free of Arshi….ofc you can already see her dropping pride in this track for the first time just like Ani who is vocal about choosing her. It’s a balm to her heart and her presence despite everything is a balm to his.

she will cotton on to his issues ( contract etc whatever it be that keeps Arshi in the mix) and perhaps one way forward could be how they deal with the problem. In the beginning I see her retreat but she will fight for her love. A big part of her courage could also be the BBG reveal and Ani’s part in protecting her could give her an understanding of what Ani staked in this relationship. That track could be about gaining courage to fight for love. She has always receded maybe she will take the lead when Ani is forced by circumstances to recede…

sorry for the long post.. just rambled.. I could be wrong about many things here though 😂😂😂


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