Mann Jogi (HUM) - Bilal Abbas Khan, Sabeena Farooq | DT.N Pg 52, 62 - Page 95

Originally posted by: moosewithagoose

Even if she has family, divorce is still largely looked down in South Asia. I know of women living in abusive relationships for years because they don't even have support of family. These parents will rather have a dead daughter than a divorced one.

It's so sad. That's why Allah has given the right of Khula to wife. She should use that without thinking about society. Just feel bad for such girls who are suffering and bearing all this 🥺

May Allah help them out.

Originally posted by: Haalim

Yeah Arfa told me. I didn’t know much about it. I just knew that it’s not a correct way of giving talaq. I come from a different school of thought. In fact I was surprised when triple talaq bill was passed in India. I was like who does it like that.

I understand

Just hope and pray that may Allah shows us right path.

Originally posted by: NazneenA

Yes of course! It's going to be nice if handled well.

But the prob with such topics is that, not everyone understands. Then what happens is that questions would be raised about all this..

Such dramas are not for masses but i would be glad if they will handle it well and will give good message through this drama.

Originally posted by: NINALOGY

But as per my knowledge there should be max 4 witnesses or minimum two male or one male two female witnesses needed for nikkah. Also wali and wakeel can't be witness then how their nikkah happened. Or am i missing something.

Only two male witnesses are needed. However some scholars say that they are not needed at all. I think Hanafi fiqh goes with that. Arfa can confirm. Imam can as well be considered as a witness.

None of the people present there could be her wali.

Originally posted by: Haalim

Only two male witnesses are needed. However some scholars say that they are not needed at all. I think Hanafi fiqh goes with that. Arfa can confirm. Imam can as well be considered as a witness.

None of the people present there could be her wali.

Would the moulvi and Shabbir count as witness?

Originally posted by: Haalim

Only two male witnesses are needed. However some scholars say that they are not needed at all. I think Hanafi fiqh goes with that. Arfa can confirm. Imam can as well be considered as a witness.

None of the people present there could be her wali.

Yes. You can get married without Wali in Hanafi. But if you go after marriage and then your wali (parents) say I don't consider, then it will be invalid. Hence scholars recommend to the parents that even if children marry without wali, just accept. Because then prob hojayegi you know bcz they already lived together.

Also in this case she is a divorced woman. So she doesn't need anyone's permission to marry

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

Would the moulvi and Shabbir count as witness?

Yeah can be I think..

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

Would the moulvi and Shabbir count as witness?

Yes. Even Shabbir’s mother could be a witness.

Originally posted by: NazneenA

Yes. You can get married without Wali in Hanafi. But if you go after marriage and then your wali (parents) say I don't consider, then it will be invalid. Hence scholars recommend to the parents that even if children marry without wali, just accept. Because then prob hojayegi you know bcz they already lived together.

Also in this case she is a divorced woman. So she doesn't need anyone's permission to marry

Haan a divorcée & a widow can marry without a wali.

Originally posted by: Haalim

Only two male witnesses are needed. However some scholars say that they are not needed at all. I think Hanafi fiqh goes with that. Arfa can confirm. Imam can as well be considered as a witness.

None of the people present there could be her wali.

In Hanafi, two witnesses are needed. But yeah marriage can be done without Wali (Male guardian from girl's side) too. And yes imam can be considered as witness too but i was just confused about shabbir.