Jhanak Chat Club #6 - Page 28

Originally posted by: MayaFruitbae

So ....this is her thoughts about showing regressive contents...

Her wiki , most of you might have read it..

Haan phir she's not a person with good mindset!

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Galti hogye hn hmse! 🤬

Originally posted by: asmitamohanty

Waiting for your pov...

But I agree with you....It is not only silly but absolute lack of responsibility to say that what we are showing is the reflection of society....in fact I also agree that it is the other way around...TV ka content does great harm to the society...

It is naive to think that tv and what we read, what we watch, especially CONSISTANTLY over a great period of time, doesn't effect our outlook, thinking and behaviour even without us realising it.... .and I am admitting that I am a product of all the movies I have watched and books I have read...

Indian television serials are unstoppably portraying the regressive roles of women. The popular notion ‘sangsar sukher hoi ramanir gune’ (the bliss of the household rests in the hands of the women) is not just a Bengali saying, it is infact the roots of Indian familial culture where the women of the house is granted the central position for her liminality. However, many popular TV serials are upholding and propagating these notions that are unfortunately blocking the path of socio-culture upliftment. Claiming of globalization and modernization where our government system is attempting to emancipate the marginalized women in our society, it seems totally ironical to see the contemporary TV serials projecting women more as models in Indian attires, all decked up in jewelry and responsible for the welfare of their husband and his family.

They are Creating Stereotypes: the Ideal women & the Bad Women

Each serial portrays how an ‘ideal’ woman should behave when myriad responsibilities are put upon her, be it in maintaining the happiness of her household, taking care of the children or solving problems that arise within the family. The typical portrait of a woman in Indian Television (TV) serials is nothing but of a perfect wife, perfect mother and perfect daughter-in-law who showers love on all her loved ones and is an icon of purity and devotion for the audience. She has to sacrifice and compromise everything for her family, even she doesn’t wants to.....

I can't imagine ...a woman in her 50s and 60s watching these shows, and expecting her daughter in law to be like Tulsi, Ishita or Jhanak....like how unrealistic it is! How unfair it is for the newly wed bahu... I have personally seen a lot of example regarding this...

Asmita…

You have covered a lot of points so I will keep my points as concise as possible.

such regressive content is more of a phenomena after the advent of cable television and its mass proliferation… Kekta should bear significant blame for this terrible content.

I have watched far better content on tv in the 80s and early 90s

Better fleshed out characters were written for women even while writing about their travails in society. Shanti, Saans, Hasratein,

Kora Kagaz, Udaan, Swabhimaan, Astitva and a few others that I can’t immediately recollect now. I grew up watching this in my teens, early and mid 20s so I have witnessed the degeneration in this medium. From my perspective, it is distressing, that instead of uplifting themes they choose to show more themes of entrenched patriarchy and even their shows that are about “empowerment”..it’s almost impossible to find a kernel of what they proclaim.
I remember watching out of academic interest the serial Diya aur Baati…a few years ago Considering the milieu it was set in, it was with great difficulty that they could make Sandhya an IAS… she had to promise to never shirk her responsibilities to home. While I could understand why it may have been difficult in that story, I have seen that premise play out irrespective of whichever the milieu. The centrality of family and the woman’s role in upholding it ( as you pointed out)

What I find disingenuous in this whole thing is the bland premise that tVs reflect the regressiveness in society because it exists… it would be more honest to say thar their business model depends on the status quo and any way to change it will come with a price to pay that they aren’t willing to wager. But my question is this wasn’t always the case…. Saans, Hasratein were path breaking shows as was Astitva with complex and progressive themes

Ofc they may not catered to a larger audience and in that lies I suppose.the biggest challenge. With the proliferation of channels and audience reach, the need to cater to this wider audience and with cut throat competition, the first casualty is conscience in art!!

So what we see is the kowtowing to commerce/ profits over everything. If they are fixing more nails into the coffin of progressiveness in society, it’s not their headache!

Originally posted by: sanfan

Asmita…

You have covered a lot of points so I will keep my points as concise as possible.

such regressive content is more of a phenomena after the advent of cable television and its mass proliferation… Kekta should bear significant blame for this terrible content.

I have watched far better content on tv in the 80s and early 90s

Better fleshed out characters were written for women even while writing about their travails in society. Shanti, Saans, Hasratein,

Kora Kagaz, Udaan, Swabhimaan, Astitva and a few others that I can’t immediately recollect now. I grew up watching this in my teens, early and mid 20s so I have witnessed the degeneration in this medium. From my perspective, it is distressing, that instead of uplifting themes they choose to show more themes of entrenched patriarchy and even their shows that are about “empowerment”..it’s almost impossible to find a kernel of what they proclaim.
I remember watching out of academic interest the serial Diya aur Baati…a few years ago Considering the milieu it was set in, it was with great difficulty that they could make Sandhya an IAS… she had to promise to never shirk her responsibilities to home. While I could understand why it may have been difficult in that story, I have seen that premise play out irrespective of whichever the milieu. The centrality of family and the woman’s role in upholding it ( as you pointed out)

What I find disingenuous in this whole thing is the bland premise that tVs reflect the regressiveness in society because it exists… it would be more honest to say thar their business model depends on the status quo and any way to change it will come with a price to pay that they aren’t willing to wager. But my question is this wasn’t always the case…. Saans, Hasratein were path breaking shows as was Astitva with complex and progressive themes

Ofc they may not catered to a larger audience and in that lies I suppose.the biggest challenge. With the proliferation of channels and audience reach, the need to cater to this wider audience and with cut throat competition, the first casualty is conscience in art!!

So what we see is the kowtowing to commerce/ profits over everything. If they are fixing more nails into the coffin of progressiveness in society, it’s not their headache!

I just read Asmita's post too...

Its so well written and I completely agree with you both .

Earlier there were so good content shows.And I believe it is not only the daily shows but also the society that has changed . We have definitely become modern but in some cases we have become so backward.

I had seen an show where an IAS lady officer was guest along with her husband. She has achieved so much in life and very successful. I forgot her name. At the end came the question by anchor , do you cook.? She said no and this anchor was like , you dont know cooking , how is it possible !!!I was so shocked ....a lady who is successful as achieved heights is made to feel low as she doesnt know cooking..And I was thinking why the channel aired it .They could have edited it out.

In this modern zamana we are still facing this.

Like Asmita said the way they show women are now as super women.Who can do it all.

Yes ,blame it on Ek. She made women show piece and categorised too. Women who dresses simple and traditional is good and those who dresses modern is vamp !!!

Its just money making now without any commitment towards anyone or anything . When shows have huge acceptance than movies they can really play good role in showing progressive contents . Highlight the bad and show how bad it is than reinforcing it.

Originally posted by: sanfan

Asmita…

You have covered a lot of points so I will keep my points as concise as possible.

such regressive content is more of a phenomena after the advent of cable television and its mass proliferation… Kekta should bear significant blame for this terrible content.

I have watched far better content on tv in the 80s and early 90s

Better fleshed out characters were written for women even while writing about their travails in society. Shanti, Saans, Hasratein,

Kora Kagaz, Udaan, Swabhimaan, Astitva and a few others that I can’t immediately recollect now. I grew up watching this in my teens, early and mid 20s so I have witnessed the degeneration in this medium. From my perspective, it is distressing, that instead of uplifting themes they choose to show more themes of entrenched patriarchy and even their shows that are about “empowerment”..it’s almost impossible to find a kernel of what they proclaim.
I remember watching out of academic interest the serial Diya aur Baati…a few years ago Considering the milieu it was set in, it was with great difficulty that they could make Sandhya an IAS… she had to promise to never shirk her responsibilities to home. While I could understand why it may have been difficult in that story, I have seen that premise play out irrespective of whichever the milieu. The centrality of family and the woman’s role in upholding it ( as you pointed out)

What I find disingenuous in this whole thing is the bland premise that tVs reflect the regressiveness in society because it exists… it would be more honest to say thar their business model depends on the status quo and any way to change it will come with a price to pay that they aren’t willing to wager. But my question is this wasn’t always the case…. Saans, Hasratein were path breaking shows as was Astitva with complex and progressive themes

Ofc they may not catered to a larger audience and in that lies I suppose.the biggest challenge. With the proliferation of channels and audience reach, the need to cater to this wider audience and with cut throat competition, the first casualty is conscience in art!!

So what we see is the kowtowing to commerce/ profits over everything. If they are fixing more nails into the coffin of progressiveness in society, it’s not their headache!

You know I don't know if you have seen it or not. But my father made me watch it during lockdown...Aarohan...

Pallavi Joshi in her 20s produced and acted in this brilliant series Aarohan which narrates the inspiring story of women joining the Indian Navy and traces their journey and the ordeals they faced.

This show came at a time when women couldn’t join Indian Navy. Now, imagine, how this make-believe scenario of 1996 would have inspired young women across all Indian households that maybe they too can be something else other than the trophy wives they are groomed to be.

If a young 22-year-old Joshi could have gathered the courage to make content that glorifies women for what they are and could take a risk so bold, then what is happening to today's so called experienced producers...

Today it has mostly become patriarchy in action..Television has the power to influence and shape the thinking of the viewer. With great power comes great responsibilities. ..when people with power refuse to accept their responsibility... their power only becomes a threat to the society..this is what has happened....

Originally posted by: asmitamohanty

You know I don't know if you have seen it or not. But my father made me watch it during lockdown...Aarohan...

Pallavi Joshi in her 20s produced and acted in this brilliant series Aarohan which narrates the inspiring story of women joining the Indian Navy and traces their journey and the ordeals they faced.

This show came at a time when women couldn’t join Indian Navy. Now, imagine, how this make-believe scenario of 1996 would have inspired young women across all Indian households that maybe they too can be something else other than the trophy wives they are groomed to be.

If a young 22-year-old Joshi could have gathered the courage to make content that glorifies women for what they are and could take a risk so bold, then what is happening to today's so called experienced producers...

Today it has mostly become patriarchy in action..Television has the power to influence and shape the thinking of the viewer. With great power comes great responsibilities. ..when people with power refuse to accept their responsibility... their power only becomes a threat to the society..this is what has happened....

yes I have watched it.. I forgot to include it in my list.. getting old 😂

They shot it at a time when Navy wasn’t commisioning women ( that happened in 02 I think not sure ) but that’s the power of thought and imagination. Absolutely agree

I was fortunate to be gaining consciousness of the world at those very impactful times… 90s were heady for various reasons ❤️

There’s another one Ms Joshi has been involved in during that time - based on the Shanbag case - Alpaviram ( starring Mohan Gokhale, Pallavi Joshi and I think Sulabha Deshpande..

Originally posted by: vira76

Behano ye serial jis kisi ne bhi Dekha hai usako mera salute hai https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6WeSm6SQBw/?igsh=ajlmM3EzdHZ1bG5n

Watches this mahan serials for starting to ending without missing any episode

https://youtu.be/rSGydhrbohw?si=grEQ7cDHDn9IRfpg

What is happening in serials comedy

lol what is this?!! yaha par bhi we have arshi, jhanak and ani ...

Originally posted by: Pearl_219

https://youtu.be/rSGydhrbohw?si=grEQ7cDHDn9IRfpg

What is happening in serials comedy

Originally posted by: Pearl_219

https://youtu.be/rSGydhrbohw?si=grEQ7cDHDn9IRfpg

What is happening in serials comedy

Ek SR Aisi bhi 🙊https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7AH147NCC7/?igsh=MWZ5dHh2emc2aHhjbA==