Mumtaz Parties In Pakistan - Page 4

Originally posted by: Funtuss

Lol what randomness is this? Where am i giving anyone any certificates?

It seems you have no rebuttle to my counterviews calling out lies and fake claims father being a freedom fighter hence resortimg to abba jabba now

I am countering you logically and factually. I agreed with you on constitutional rights n all that jazz. You said i didnt talk about ranbir's religion and when i did you took objection to that. Where am i stopping anyone to follow or start any religion.

All i am asking them as a fan is to be honest and not fool me. And btw, not only celebrities, constitution gives everyone equal rights and i am exercising my rights by expressing my views about how these fakers are fooling their audience and ditching them later on when the career is over.

I dont know why you are so much worried about their rights and not aam janta's like me?? I am closer to you than anyone them will ever be. Atleast i know you. They dont. Its not nice to fight with me for peiple who dont even know your existence. Unless u r paid by them

It is reported by many Indian media portals that Shah Rukh's father was a participant in Indian freedom struggle and was jailed by the British. Now the UGC hasn't granted me research grant to get trained in historical research and combing through colonial archives. Let me write a research proposal and get back to you in six months.

www.thequint.com/amp/story/news/webqoof/false-claims-about-shah-rukh-khan-father-meer-taj-khan-age-quit-india-movement-fact-check

Even if he were not freedom fighter, he was a British Indian who chose Independent India as his homeland, was an Indian citizen, married an Indian citizen, raised his children in India. By every metric, both Shah Rukh and Ranbir are Indians entitled to both the fundamental freedoms of religion and expression. Their or anybody else's Indianness is neither charity nor up for debates. You can say anything you want and practice whatever you want, I am nobody to question your fundamental rights or Indianness. Shah Rukh can say whatever he wants and Ranbir can worship anyone/anything he chooses as an Indian citizen. You feeling fooled by either is for you to manage your own emotions as an adult. Why should they not exercise their fundamental rights because you feel fooled by the concept of individual liberties? Lmao.

Originally posted by: Funtuss

Lol where is the proof he fought for the freedom? It all started with his fake claims in his own biography written by none other than anupama chopra.

He was no freedom fighter. But the fans lapped up lies told by a film critique

Do you realise a lot of Indians were involved in freedom fighting and there is no proof because the numbers are that huge? There was no instagram and smart phone to capture and pay PR to market every thing as political parties do nowadays.....

Many of my real life known people have grandparents who went to jail..... they need proof now ???

Sorry for intruding in your conversation with another member but

Anupama chopra biography came in 2007....but he gave many interview before telling same thing....From his early interview in 90s he is telling his dad was involved in freedom fighting....why is it so unbelievable?

Why will his cousin relatives who never migrated to delhi during partition also say same thing then.... that their dads were involved in freedom movement....

https://www.dawn.com/news/149454/shahrukh-s-cousins-eager-to-meet-him

Originally posted by: Blueeeee

It is reported by many Indian media portals that Shah Rukh's father was a participant in Indian freedom struggle and was jailed by the British. Now the UGC hasn't granted me research grant to get trained in historical research and combing through colonial archives. Let me write a research proposal and get back to you in six months.

www.thequint.com/amp/story/news/webqoof/false-claims-about-shah-rukh-khan-father-meer-taj-khan-age-quit-india-movement-fact-check

Even if he were not freedom fighter, he was a British Indian who chose Independent India as his homeland, was an Indian citizen, married an Indian citizen, raised his children in India. By every metric, both Shah Rukh and Ranbir are Indians entitled to both the fundamental freedoms of religion and expression. Their or anybody else's Indianness is neither charity nor up for debates. You can say anything you want and practice whatever you want, I am nobody to question your fundamental rights or Indianness. Shah Rukh can say whatever he wants and Ranbir can worship anyone/anything he chooses as an Indian citizen. You feeling fooled by either is for you to manage your own emotions as an adult. Why should they not exercise their fundamental rights because you feel fooled by the concept of individual liberties? Lmao.

Lol quint a chinese mouth piece as a fact checker

Even then even you are not sure now about your own claims And if you could do a little more research you will find out the actual truth.

The father was a 15 yr old then,lol

There is another article where you will find that claimed that the father was just an onlooker when the freedom fighters gathered and police came there and grabbed a few people and unforthnately he was caught and sent to jail.

It happens even now rioters nikal jate hai aam janta tamasha dekhne aati hai toh fass jati hai police ke chakkaro mein. Phir pichwade pe do char dande kha ke chhoot bhi jate hai.

Bas ittu si baat ko bada chadakar anu ne biography mein likh diya to add more color to his life. Fans ko ullu banana koi inse sikhe

Originally posted by: Billi_Bangalan

Do you realise a lot of Indians were involved in freedom fighting and there is no proof because the numbers are that huge? There was no instagram and smart phone to capture and pay PR to market every thing as political parties do nowadays.....

Many of my real life known people have grandparents who went to jail..... they need proof now ???

Sorry for intruding in your conversation with another member but

Anupama chopra biography came in 2007....but he gave many interview before telling same thing....From his early interview in 90s he is telling his dad was involved in freedom fighting....why is it so unbelievable?

Why will his cousin relatives who never migrated to delhi during partition also say same thing then.... that their dads were involved in freedom movement....

https://www.dawn.com/news/149454/shahrukh-s-cousins-eager-to-meet-him

Yes there were countless undocumented freedom fighter who fought and died for the country but shahrukh khan's father isnt one of them. This angle was added in his biogralphy by anupama chopra before that no one talked about it. And we all know how credible that woman is.

A film journalist is the last one to be believed

Originally posted by: Funtuss

Lol quint a chinese mouth piece as a fact checker

Even then even you are not sure now about your own claims And if you could do a little more research you will find out the actual truth.

The father was a 15 yr old then,lol

There is another article where you will find that claimed that the father was just an onlooker when the freedom fighters gathered and police came there and grabbed a few people and unforthnately he was caught and sent to jail.

It happens even now rioters nikal jate hai aam janta tamasha dekhne aati hai toh fass jati hai police ke chakkaro mein. Phir pichwade pe do char dande kha ke chhoot bhi jate hai.

Bas ittu si baat ko bada chadakar anu ne biography mein likh diya to add more color to his life. Fans ko ullu banana koi inse sikhe

https://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/shah-rukh-from-a-family-of-brave-freedom-fighters-father-s-friend/story-YHR7vdFN3RP7QZf9SL9XYJ.html

Bhai decide kar lo. Could teenagers not be freedom fighters but they were mature enough to ask for a theocratic state? There are 100 more mainstream examples of teenagers literally being shot and jailed by the British. And if not, a 18-20 years old risking their lives, leaving their families and ancestral properties to become a refugee in an Independent India is for nefarious purposes and not out of patriotism? Lmao. Fact remains, Shah Rukh, his parents, his sister, his wife and children— all are Indian citizens entitled to the fundamental freedoms promised to them on the very first page of the Indian Constitution. Kisi ki personal jagir nahi hai na ki usse khush karne ke liye apne fundamental rights tyaag de.

At least, i have provided journalistic sources I have read. You have provided not one evidence of whatever you are saying apart from Shah Rukh saying something you didn't like and doing films approved by censor board which you didn't like. And Ranbir following some God you don't follow as if he needs to get your approval to believe in any higher power.

Zeenat went through so much sorrow and pain. Mumtaz should had not said anything. Whatever one person does, that is between the person and God. Zeenat interviews are always delight to watch and she is a very intelligent and good person. Is mumtaz jealous because Zeenat is poplar and getting work? Lol

Lo actually found even two academic sources for Shah Rukh's father's involvement in the freedom struggle as if that has anything to do with his fundamental rights lololol

https://www.nomos-elibrary.de/10.5771/0257-9774-2017-1-311.pdf

https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=aVHsDwAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PA173

I thought the Internet cancelled Rahat? Look at this besharam.

Originally posted by: Blueeeee

Lo actually found even two academic sources for Shah Rukh's father's involvement in the freedom struggle as if that has anything to do with his fundamental rights lololol

https://www.nomos-elibrary.de/10.5771/0257-9774-2017-1-311.pdf

https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=aVHsDwAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PA173

Lol, as per PR he was the youngest freedom fighter par phir bhi nowhere he is mentioned other than this one time by a film journalist in his supersrar son's autobiography, no pics with other freedom fighters not in childhood, neither in adulthood and even after india got indepence when the family was close to nehru...no acknowlegment from anyone for THE YOUNGEST FREEDOM FIGHTER, forget about any chora mota award from any small time org for his so called contribution in being a bystander in the presence of real freedon fighters. Kuch bhi toh ho shahrukh khan ke pass jo dikhane layak ho from his father's childhood achievements

Yes we know his parents were nehru loyalists aur woh apne wafadaro ko ache se palte bhi hai aur abhi tak kar rahe hai afterall hahrukh khan ne mediocre bollywood success se toh saare ke saare 600 million Dollar to nahi kamaye, hai na?!

Lies and acting is what these bollywoodiyas are good at. Infact they act better offscreen. Shahrukh lied he came from poor background and slept on railway plateform. So why is it unbelievable for some of you that he didnt also lie about his father?

Javed akhtar, sahabana azmi also used to claim their ancesters fought for freedom on twitter all the time....they have all been silenced with facts ....turns out they were at the forefront of creating pakistan. Azmi's father moved to pakistan and came back in a few weeks during partition. Naseeruddin's were also demanding pakistan but these people claim to have fought for india. Look how well they are doing in india and still crib about intolerance? Jis thali mein khana usi mein ched karna jaise fitrat hai aise logo ki.

Yeah yeah, afain fundamental rights n all that bullshit as if i am against it. What are you tryjng to prove here that i am against it? Huh

Lol, shahrukh's father lost his fundamental rights when pakistan was created by muslims. He had no business moving to indian side from paksitan when it was a partition clearly based on religion. It was decided pakistan will be for muslims and india will be for hindus so it was unethical and immoral for them to move on this side of the border but clearly they moved because they were promised by their master nehru to provide good life in return of their loyalty and they are still being taken care of

Also fun fact : anupama chopra whom you so much trust n believe said "shahrukh khan's father came to bombay" to become an actor" and worked as a sidey in a film written by arundhati roy during the same book launch in which she had pasingly mentioned about so called freedom fighter.

The 4.44 minute video is still available on youtube.. she mentiins about his father after 1:28 ...go "research" about it post the link here for everyone to see how country's YOUNGEST freedom fighter changed tracks to beinh a bollywood actor...