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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: LKashish

I won’t lie I also expected more vitriol from Imlie towards Vishwa after the blackmail track. If not for the physical harassment she faced, then at least for all that he’s put her family and August Babu through. Especially since she slapped him when he wished Tej’s alleged fate on Agastya. Imlie definitely cares more for her loved ones than herself. She didn’t take his threats towards herself seriously until he hurt her babu.

I don’t think it’s right to speculate on the actor’s offscreen interactions as I don’t believe it has anything to do with the portrayal of the characters on screen. The actor’s bring the character that were once on paper to life. If the script was written to show more animosity, then the actors wouldn’t be able to make changes because of their own offscreen equation. They work hard to execute the vision of the directors and writers. My reproach is more towards the PH and the creatives behind the scene who are in charge of deciding the mood during Vishwa and Imlie’s scene. It’s like there’s a huge elephant in the room and only we the AT audience see it.

Vishwa’s actions have already crossed villainous levels so I don’t know why the writers write his conversation with Imlie in such a calm manner. IRL joote khata or jail mein hota obvi but this is ITV.

Dadi is being dignified with Navya so maybe Imlie is doing the same for Chutki’s sake with Vishwa ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


My only gripe is what appears to me onscreen as a viewer. I don't care about the offscreen equation at all. I have seen multiple shows where offscreen dynamics do impact the script and characters (but I won't point any fingers here, this doesn't seem to be the case with Imlie).


I feel whoever is responsible for the script or execution needs to be more sensitive. I don't mind scenes of Imlie with Vishwa but these need to be in sync with what the characters feel and what has transpired in the past. It is icky to see them normalize how Imlie was borderline harassed and the fact that this family is trying to take revenge on someone who is clearly not the culprit (even if we were to assume that Kunal was the culprit, taking revenge on Agastya is an L move).


I feel disappointed to see people think Vishwa is a good man and worth stanning as a character. Sadly, people aren't able to differentiate the actor from the character he portrays. This thin line of grey is because the writers are going grey in their scenes (and this is not responsible writing specially when we know how many social issues this team has addressed previously). The only scene I liked in recent times is the slap (not that Vishwa has learnt his lesson after that anyway), I wish it was more against the harassment than him wishing harm for Agastya.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Vishwa and Navya are still considered to be a part of the extended family. I don't expect daadi to be very bad. But atleast Imlie should be bad towards Vishwa as she was exploited the most. She is not interested in talking that's fine. But atleast there should be some hate. The actor doesn't write the dialogues na. Imlie said if Vishwa can help her, it's okay. Otherwise he can go. We cannot blame actors for this bad writing with Vishwa.

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Posted: 1 years ago

It looks like it is deliberate that Vishwa is kept open ended. The precap for tomorrow says that Agastya and Vishwa will have a showdown in which Vishwa will blame that someone in his house was hand in gloves with the killer and Vishwa admitting that he loves Imlie. So maybe the dreaded 3rd angle would be bought in - You would be better off without me kind of thing.


So Agastya might leave Imlie thinking she would be better off with Vishwa. He was feeling very remorseful in today's episode for all the hurt he caused her and Vishwa is going to pry on this insecurities I feel.

Edited by PSharada - 1 years ago
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Posted: 1 years ago

Few things I loved about the episode today.


1. Imlie didn’t want to give the locket because it would prove Meera ki innocence. But when it came to her babu ka safety, she gave it up without even thinking. Her priority has always been his safety.


2. Agastya has such a strong presence of mind. He remembered the cctv, used fire to cause that explosion. When he knew they both are in danger, he apologized for everything he said to her from the start. He knows she will go out to save his life but he die rather than see her in danger. I love how emotional this scene (background music was superb) was because they know they don't have much time together. Loved how Imlie spoke about their love.


Was there a wrong dialogue (typo) humre jaane se tum hasna muskurana seekh jaoge?


3. Love how courageous Imlie is. She singlehandedly tackled the stalker. The fall from the stairs looked dangerous (even if they used a body double). What happened to her eyes? Didn’t she injure her head and not her eyes. Wow they are bringing back Dhanraj Kairi track. Aur kitne plots open karoge?


Vishwa kya police wala hai, is never successful in catching hold of the stalker. Why did he want to meet Imlie? He is like Meera, can’t read the room. Now she’s the fiancee of Agastya and he has no rights on her. Yeh hota kaun hai to point fingers at Agastya saying he put her life in danger.


Wasn't Vishwa responsible to save Imlie and catch the stalker but tab he was more interested in revenge, blackmail, harassment. I want Agastya to punch this man’s face than making him indebted to Vishwa due to him giving blood to Imlie. Too much contrived plot to have these two share the same blood group.


The stalker is killing people left right and center. He wants to kill Imlie even after getting the locket. This made no sense to me coz he could have been caught. Why try to kill Imlie when she hasn't seen you neither has any incriminating evidence against you anymore.


I hope Vishwa is getting importance right now only due to Adrija ki break. I can’t tolerate this character onscreen anymore. Please use the other cast instead.


Amar Sonali scenes remind me so much of Jee Le zara a show that used to come on Sony. Their dynamic is exactly the same. I am enjoying the flirt Amar. He’s a decent actor and the character is fun.


Quite enjoyable episode. Full of suspense and mystery and thrill.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: PSharada

It looks like it is deliberate that Vishwa is kept open ended. The precap for tomorrow says that Agastya and Vishwa will have a showdown in which Vishwa will blame that someone in his house was hand in gloves with the killer and Vishwa admitting that he loves Imlie. So maybe the dreaded 3rd angle would be bought in - You would be better off without me kind of thing.


So Agastya might leave Imlie thinking she would be better off with Vishwa. He was feeling very remorseful in today's episode for all the hurt he caused her and Vishwa is going to pry on this insecurities I feel.

From a writing perspective, it wouldn’t make any sense for Agastya to go all sacrificial. Even if he wants to move away from Imlie for her safety, he would never want her to be with Vishwa coz he is not right for her.

Vishwa isn’t wrong to say someone in his family supported the stalker. It was quite logical. Agastya knows Imlie loves him and hopefully he fights for them rather than going all she’s better off without me.

Edited by joliefemme - 1 years ago
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Posted: 1 years ago

Today's episode was a little confusing for me. Maybe someone can interpret it better.


- So Agastya and Imlie take out the locket from the room and Agastya wants to give the locket to the killer as it is not worth more than Imlie's life. Imlie denies it at first saying if the killer came in for the locket then it can be the clue to prove that Meera is innocent.

- Meanwhile the killer gets his associates to spread some gas into the room. He has already closed the windows of the room. What I don't understand is how come the windows of the room are on ground level (it was shown that Dolly was eavesdropping yesterday from the window so obviously it should be on ground level) and today it is shown that the room is on first level.

- Agastya switches on the in house cameras he installed and they observe the gang pumping in some gas. So Agastya lights a paper and passes it out of the gap in the door and it causes a blast. Agastya is hurt on this side of the door and the husband is hurt on the other side.

- Imlie gives the locket to the killer and says for them to go away. The wife of the accomplice also says that the husband is hurt so they want to go to hospital. But the killer slashes the throat of the husband and kills him and also hurts the wife badly.

- The killer writes Imlie on the paper and shows on the camera and asks Imlie to be out. Agastya is knocked out and Imlie realizes that to save Agastya she needs to go out.

- Agastya wakes up and tells not to go out no matter what. Apologizes for all the harsh words he ever told her - bar girl, gold digger and everything. I feel they are going for a separation here. Warna apologizing at this moment does not make sense.

- Imlie comes out and the killer has a gun. Agastya also comes out and there is a fight between Imlie and the killer which causes both of them to tumble down the stairs. The mask falls off the face but Imlie is unable to see the face.

- The wife of the accomplice comes out in angaan and the family sees her injured and everyone realizes that the stalker killer is in house. They all rush in and see the killer running away.

- Vishwa is a stupid cop. He could have run behind him and caught him but he chooses not to go to. Anyway I am glad he was not there when Imlie was bought to hospital.

- So imlie is in hospital and she has a bandage on her eyes. Why would you have bandage on the eyes unless Imlie is going to lose her eyesight. The whole family is praying for the recovery of Imlie.

- Chacha, Chachi and Dadi remember the time they got Dhanraj to the hospital and still lost him. So is the next one coming up this soon. Dadi says they will not go without taking Imlie.

- Vishwa comes and asks with full haq as to how is imlie and blames Agastya for Imlie's condition. pata nahin what is his problem. Does he not know that Agastya and Imlie love each other so why is he coming in middle of these 2 again and again.


So basically I am confused whether the killer took the locket or not. If the killer did take the locket then there is no clue for the family to dig in the past. And the whole Vishwa blaming Agastya for Imlie's condition is done in a questionable manner. Will this lead to Agastya breaking up with Imlie or Imlie herself will break up with Agastya if she goes blind(the pati on the eyes was something I could not understand) or she believes the fortune tellers words saying her suhaag does not have long life. Somehow I feel separation is coming up - either Agastya stepping back or Imlie stepping back. I am okay with separation but I hope they dont' show Imlie - Vishwa track to get the separation.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: joliefemme

From a writing perspective, it wouldn’t make any sense for Agastya to go all sacrificial. Even if he wants to move away from Imlie for her safety, he would never want her to be with Vishwa coz he is not right for her.

Vishwa isn’t wrong to say someone in his family supported the stalker. It was quite logical. Agastya knows Imlie loves him and hopefully he fights for them rather than going all she’s better off without me.


Yes it does not make sense for Agastya to go sacrificial. Maybe that is why it would be Imlie who will go sacrificial - saying she can not put her babu's life in danger. For her it is not only the killer but now the fortune teller also telling her that her suhaag is not going to have a long life. I feel that is why the natak and the fortune teller ka warning was written in. Imlie also remembered the fortune teller's words when she decided to go out. So maybe she will feel that it would be better if she is not wife of Agastya and moves out.


But with the locket gone how are the family - Sonali, Agsatya or even Vishwa going to find the killer ? I feel they should have shown the killer forgetting the locket in the house. Otherwise there is no way they can move forward in the track. It would be a dead end.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: PSharada


Yes it does not make sense for Agastya to go sacrificial. Maybe that is why it would be Imlie who will go sacrificial - saying she can not put her babu's life in danger. For her it is not only the killer but now the fortune teller also telling her that her suhaag is not going to have a long life. I feel that is why the natak and the fortune teller ka warning was written in. Imlie also remembered the fortune teller's words when she decided to go out. So maybe she will feel that it would be better if she is not wife of Agastya and moves out.


But with the locket gone how are the family - Sonali, Agsatya or even Vishwa going to find the killer ? I feel they should have shown the killer forgetting the locket in the house. Otherwise there is no way they can move forward in the track. It would be a dead end.

I think once the locket is opened there’s not going to be any suspense left anymore. While the locket is gone, I’m sure there are other ways to catch the stalker. Itne flop plans banata hai one of the days he will be caught red handed.

Yes it makes sense that Imlie (who is more emotional compared to Agastya who is more practical) decides to leave to save his life. I very well see this happening specially in light of Savitri Satyavan story and Fortune teller ki bhavishyavani.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Few things I loved about the episode today.


1. Imlie didn’t want to give the locket because it would prove Meera ki innocence. But when it came to her babu ka safety, she gave it up without even thinking. Her priority has always been his safety.

Somehow they should have shown the locket remains in the house - either the killer forgetting it or dropping it off. Warna there is no clue for the family to dig in. They need that locket to tie in the killer and if the killer has taken in there is no way you can trace him back na.


2. Agastya has such a strong presence of mind. He remembered the cctv, used fire to cause that explosion. When he knew they both are in danger, he apologized for everything he said to her from the start. He knows she will go out to save his life but he die rather than see her in danger. I love how emotional this scene (background music was superb) was because they know they don't have much time together. Loved how Imlie spoke about their love.

Somehow with yesterday's episode (the fortune teller warning Imlie about her suhaag) and today's talk I do feel there is going to be separation between Agastya and Imlie. That is why you have the apologies from Agastya ka side. Imlie felt for a moment that she would lose Agastya and that made her come out.


Was there a wrong dialogue (typo) humre jaane se tum hasna muskurana seekh jaoge?

Yes that dialogue is clear sign that there will be separation and Imlie will move away from Agastya.


3. Love how courageous Imlie is. She singlehandedly tackled the stalker. The fall from the stairs looked dangerous (even if they used a body double). What happened to her eyes? Didn’t she injure her head and not her eyes. Wow they are bringing back Dhanraj Kairi track. Aur kitne plots open karoge?

I did not understand why they opened Dhanraj - Kairi ka track or maybe they just want to tell the audience that this track is still there. If Agastya and Imlie do separate then maybe Agastya will come to know that Ashu is his nephew and he will get Ashu home and claim Ashu as Chaudhary's ka child. This will probably make Imlie come back to Agastya if she moved out due to her fear or whatever.


Vishwa kya police wala hai, is never successful in catching hold of the stalker. Why did he want to meet Imlie? He is like Meera, can’t read the room. Now she’s the fiancee of Agastya and he has no rights on her. Yeh hota kaun hai to point fingers at Agastya saying he put her life in danger.

Yeah the dialogues of Vishwa are really not written well. He knows they both are in love but aa jata hain beech main to put in his 2cents. If his lover left him then he deliberately prying on Imlie is also equally bad. He just is not able to come to terms that maybe Chaudhary's are not wrong and he was targeting the wrong family all this time. And he wants Imlie to be with him.


Wasn't Vishwa responsible to save Imlie and catch the stalker but tab he was more interested in revenge, blackmail, harassment. I want Agastya to punch this man’s face than making him indebted to Vishwa due to him giving blood to Imlie. Too much contrived plot to have these two share the same blood group.

It would be good if Imlie says - now that you have donated me blood you are my khoon se bhai from today onwards. That would be the best I tell you.


The stalker is killing people left right and center. He wants to kill Imlie even after getting the locket. This made no sense to me coz he could have been caught. Why try to kill Imlie when she hasn't seen you neither has any incriminating evidence against you anymore.

Yes how are the police not finding the killer. He is killing people left right and center. And why so adamant on killing Imlie when she has not seen anything.


I hope Vishwa is getting importance right now only due to Adrija ki break. I can’t tolerate this character onscreen anymore. Please use the other cast instead.

Same - That actor really puts me off. I was lowkey hoping that he would not rush and lift Imlie in his arms when he runs in the house. Phew - Can the PH please end this revenge family track.


Amar Sonali scenes remind me so much of Jee Le zara a show that used to come on Sony. Their dynamic is exactly the same. I am enjoying the flirt Amar. He’s a decent actor and the character is fun.

Yes I hope they show more scenes of Amar and Sonali as now everyone knows that the locket is of some importance or otherwise the killer would not have come for it.

Quite enjoyable episode. Full of suspense and mystery and thrill.


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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: joliefemme

I think once the locket is opened there’s not going to be any suspense left anymore. While the locket is gone, I’m sure there are other ways to catch the stalker. Itne flop plans banata hai one of the days he will be caught red handed.

Yes it makes sense that Imlie (who is more emotional compared to Agastya who is more practical) decides to leave to save his life. I very well see this happening specially in light of Savitri Satyavan story and Fortune teller ki bhavishyavani.


Yes there might be another way to catch the killer but remember this locket was the one which tied to the Singh factory sweets bomb blast and also to the Kunal killing. So yes it is imperative that they find this locket. No one has seen the face of the killer so you can not unveil the past without something tying to the killer. And who knows - now that the locket is with the killer maybe he will not come out and attack Imlie. Especially if Imlie goes blind then there is no way she will be a threat.


@bold:- Yes the Savitri Satyavan story and the fortune teller telling this is going to influence Imlie's decision to leave Agastya. She would be like - It would be better if I am away from Agastya especially if his life is at stake. So she might leave Agastya.

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