"Mein" (ARY Digital) - Ayeza Khan, Wahaj Ali #4 [DT Note Pg 132] - Page 123

Originally posted by: unicornhugs

Yeah I’m curious to see how he explains that. I always was from the minute he locked her up. What was his plan for after Zaid returned? Is he just going to deny it and make the staff agree?

no he made fun of zaid that what can zaid even do ? He tells this to Rayaan 🤢

his weakness in front of his dad is such bad news for me always. Zaid may be loyal but he’s not a strong person at all 😔 I keep waiting for him to break free and be his own person but I guess that’ll never happen. Even now with the whole Ayra thing I’m pretty confident MJ will be the one solving this mess for Zaid lol. He’s not gonna do much except mope around

Originally posted by: unicornhugs

He should ultimately believe her and he should know Ayra wouldn’t make that up. Also he knows Asif is crooked but is he willing to accept that his father would let something like this slide? Asif was noticeably disturbed by Rayyan’s behaviour. It’s obvious he doesn’t approve but his need to save his reputation and throw Ayra under the bus is more important to him. Asif knows Ayra is going to tell Zaid everything and is coming up with a plan. I think Zaid will ultimately believe Ayra but with all the information being thrown at him, I’m not sure we’ll get an angry reaction.

Le sigh

Every time something becomes inconvenient for Zaid, he’ll always second guess everything 🤦🏻‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Audience doesn’t like this kind of reaction to something so serious. I know a lot of people have just given up on him but I was still holding out some hope. Oh well…

Originally posted by: chicksoup

I feel Zaid's Turkey wardrobe is nice. It's just that he doesn't ooze the fashion sense Mubashira or Rayaan or even Asif has. Kash keeps to a simple style though it certainly doesn't look cheap. Ayra has updated her wardrobe to allow few beads etc.

Zaid tries to somehow match bit more with middle class sensibilities at times...he might be reverse class conscious. 🤭 It's in line with his character, though. There should be some scope for MJ to improve on his wardrobe.

Even I think his Turkey wardrobe is nice. It's very casual & loose clothing is also a laid back style which does look good. Many people wear that. Goes with that Mediterranean vibe also in my opinion..

Also yes his styling is not that good in this show but I think that's how Zaid is. A boring person & least interested in all this 🤷

Originally posted by: arfanazneen

Even I think his Turkey wardrobe is nice. It's very casual & loose clothing is also a laid back style which does look good. Many people wear that. Goes with that Mediterranean vibe also in my opinion..

Also yes his styling is not that good in this show but I think that's how Zaid is. A boring person & least interested in all this 🤷

Guys,I think we have to finish the previous thread first and then come here.

Originally posted by: tgota92

I think you are under the impression that I love Ayra. I want to clarify that I don’t like her either but at the same time I don’t like Zaid or MJ - they’re all too problematic for me to like. It’s just a guilty pleasure for me.

I don’t think Ayra is innocent. She is flawed but I also don’t like how her flaws are somehow considered huge but Zaid and MJ’s bigger flaws are downplayed. Maybe it’s easier to accept MJ’s flaws because she is a certified problematic and flawed character from the get go and when Ayra acts holier than thou, it’s just irritating. I get it. But for me placing the blame on Ayra and her behavior shouldn’t take away of what Zaid should have done and how.

Ayra exists to test Zaid and MJ’s characters. Not the other way around. Which is why whatever happens to Ayra is the plot and the other main characters “react” to it.

Zaid has been a weak man from the get go. Whenever this man faces a challenge or rough patch in a relationship, he will act out and not behave like a mature person. Remember how he treated MJ when they were in a rough patch? That’s a weak man who can’t stand by his decisions. To this day we have never seen him acknowledge his role in the Nikkah and how unfair he was to MJ. He never brings it up.

Then his promises and reassurances to Ayra. I understand that she tested him a lot. That’s NOT up for debate. But his reactions certainly are. Remember when they were having a rough patch - zaid with Biwi 2 - and he went to punish Ayra by spending the night at MJ’s room? His reaction to Ayra’s action of working late. Being lonely doesn’t make this a proportionate reaction. I’m just talking about Zaid here mind you, not Ayra. Then his Biwi gets fired, loses the contract, and what does he do? He holds off telling her about the Turkey trip and then doesn’t even fight enough for her to convince his dad. He leaves her there when she was already miserable and goes off on this trip. Dont even get me started on the Rayaan bit. That I feel was ooc but again to show his weakness as the protector and savior he promised to be for Ayra. He has failed in every sense for the REASON he wanted to marry Ayra in the first place. Forget love. He should have kept her close no matter what - he should have put his foot down in front of both Ayra AND asif. But he’s like a ping pong ball - makes these grand promises and then fails to properly sustain them.

You’re right about the phone calls though. It was shitty of Ayra not to pick up. But the fact is if he was really thinking of her he would have taken her with him and not left her behind 🤷‍♀️ He wanted to but got shut up by his dad. So he tries but ends up falling flat and being dominated by others. He’s just weak man. Nothing else to be said about it. He has no say in anything.

Imagine him and MJs future. If they ever have a rough patch, he’s always going to handle it not so well. That’s what the show has proven when he’s had rough patches with both MJ and Ayra. He is all sweet and nice and full of promises when things are hunky dory and convenient but he fails at integrity and sustaining promises/decisions when truly tested. He’s just too easily influenced 🤷‍♀️

you may not see it like that but these are my thoughts. Zaid is a very problematic individual which is why his endgame with MJ makes sense. They’re both deeply deeply flawed. When she gives him shit, he gives her shit too. When she’s civil, he’s civil too. It’ll just be like that between them. But if they ever face a rough patch, it’s MJ who’ll be doing all the work lol. Zaid is not to be trusted in rough times

Originally posted by: unicornhugs

Ayra has definitely been through a lot. Of all the characters, she has the saddest story. Although. I feel there are traits in Ayra that were present long before any of this happened. Ayra does what she wants and when she wants. She doesn’t find it necessary to keep Zaid in the loop of most things in her life so why is she so upset that she didn’t learn about this Turkey trip until last minute? Here she treated MJ as just another wife that was allowed to go but she is a partner at the company. When Zaid was sick, he even said that she could go instead of him. Ayra didn’t tell Zaid she worked for the competitor until after starting. Even then, he found out and confronted her. He called her cell first but she ignored it. They showed a scene where she saw he was calling and ignored it. These scenes can’t be put in for no reason. I agree that Ayra was derailing and the trauma is real in her life but I can’t help but see that these traits existed within her from before. She always ignored his calls, put off telling her brother about him, made the bhabi look like a fool bringing in proposals. She isn’t a bad person, but she never prioritized Zaid the way he prioritized her but complains about him.

About MJ getting Ayra fired, I thought it was underhanded too. I didn’t like how she schemed to do that but honestly most people supported her surprisingly.

Originally posted by: tgota92

Also sexual assault is a big thing. Like Ayra said “she can be a bad person but she can never make this big allegation up” - If Zaid trusts anyone else besides her, he’s deader to me than he is already lol

It’s something he shouldn’t even think about or second guess. It’s a big effing deal for your wife to be telling you this - he ignored her the first time and if he’s still even a little unsure now ? It will be extremely icky - and we will just be back to Zaid’s red flags again 🤦🏻‍♀️

Replying here because it’s a bit much going back and forth between threads. This is in response to how you mentioned Zaid does so much for Ayra, Ayra’s behavior and how they don’t make sense as the endgame :)

In the situation they are in right now, of course Zaid and Ayra are not compatible. It’s obvious she’s still not over her trauma and will continue to rebel and react and rightfully so because everyone IS out to get her. Her only ally in this is Zaid - you think he does too much for her - I think because she’s on this path of isolation and self destruction , he’s not doing enough. Lol hear me out 😉

Whenever someone is derailing or going off course in a relationship the other person has to be stronger and bring them back to what’s more important. Ayra’s insecurities around Asif and MJ are not unfounded and her distancing herself is the best way to protect herself. I agree that joining the rivals was a bad call. No argument there. But her motivation to NOT work at Zaid’s office anymore made sense to me. Not a sensible decision but I get the logic. She didn’t think she would get respect there from asif or MJ. What did she say to Zaid? I joined your office because I thought I was joining my husbands office but it’s not. Her faith in Zaid because of all she’s been through is shaky and he’s not strong enough to come through for her. He does the right things but it’s almost like it’s half hearted. He wants her to be normal , “I want to stay happy with you”, but he doesn’t realise this will never be a normal situation for her.

She needs time to process and heal but she never gets that - her joining the office with zaid was part of that healing - but then MJ interfered there too. And Ayra overhears her and Asif talking about showing her her place. With what Ayra has been through it makes perfect sense for her to run from the situation. Remember when she was trying to run away to Sukhur? So this stems out of her need to protect herself - and also she thinks Zaid is not strong enough to do it for her. And he continues to prove her right even when she tells him about Rayaan. Whatever Zaid is doing, it might seem fine to you but for someone in Ayra’s position, more support is needed because she’s surrounded on all sides by people who want her out and actively try to hurt her. Zaid can’t be a passive supporter, he has to be an assertive and strong supporter. Remember Murtasim standing up to his family when they bullied Meerab? That’s the ideal way to stand up for your wife and Zaid is a far cry from that - and god knows Meerab was more difficult as a wife lol.

Ultimately, Zaid’s promises to Ayra feel empty and his reassurances mean nothing. He may do the right thing most of the time but it comes off as so half hearted and weak and easily influenced by others that you can’t help but feel frustrated with him. This is not a normal situation he is in and the sole purpose of it all was his desire to protect Ayra. Forget love. He’s not doing enough to protect her at all. Not even from her own self 🤦🏻‍♀️ If that’s why you married this girl, do better dude.

For me it’s about can I trust Zaid’s fickle love and is he someone to be trusted and respected anyway? You just wrote overall he’s a great guy - I disagree. He’s nicer than the rest but his love comes with an edge - you wrong him or become an inconvenience for him and he’ll change tracks in no time. Ayra rejects him - he marries MJ - he finds out what happens - it’s back to Ayra - tortures MJ - pesters Ayra nonstop to marry and not move away - finally when both women comply and the situation isn’t hunky dory he’s back to MJ 🤦🏻‍♀️😂 This is immaturity and lack of taking responsibility for your own actions. Not holding your own self accountable for a situation but instead shifting blame

It’s not a good look for a hero at all, even if you’re showing him to be weak and easily influenced. It doesn’t fly with the audience.

As for endgame we all know that’s Zaid and MJ. But will it be earned ? Will we respect them by that time? I strongly feel MJ will be given the scope to grow and I’ll end up liking her at the end. Even respect is possible there. But will I respect Zaid ? Sounds doubtful. I can only trust his love for MJ in the future if I can trust his commitment for Ayra now - if he’s not steadfast and is just standing by her for the heck of it - it comes across as fickle. And a man like that would always want escape when things get difficult. If not Ayra then MJ, if not MJ then someone else lol. I haven’t even seen the rest of MJ’s story but when she says she’s fallen in love, I believe it and I know she’ll be steadfast in that. But will I ever believe Zaid loves loves MJ ? I will always doubt it. For that, Zaid needs to man up - prove that with Ayra first instead of half assing it - then later he and Ayra can break up or whatever for whatever reason and when he gets together with MJ, he should be a person who has grown from his immaturities and weaknesses, who can finally be respected as a character and who can sell the fact that he can love and he can love WELL.

Whatever happens with Zaid and Ayra is immaterial at this point. Whether they are endgame or not. But how Zaid handles Ayra is extremely important to witness - because that’s what sells his character. His words and actions have to carry weight

I hopeeeeee this made some amount of sense lol. I think the basic jist is just that I don’t mind a Zaid and MJ endgame but please, make me respect the characters first. Otherwise it’s hard to invest

I just shifted here sorry 🙈

Seemed like an ongoing discussion lol

I’m so glad you agree about Zaid and how I feel about him 👍