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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: chicksoup


Actually, why not.

He never expected Ayra to back out. She had not left any window for reconciliation. He was heartbroken and confused. And here comes Papa Asif telling him to focus on the business and family and marry a family friend to secure his as well as his sister's future. What else was there for him to look forward to. Plenty of ppl go for an arranged marriage when there's a break up. They don't want to take that effort and pain through an affair again and marriage is the easy way out to start a family.

Agreed, I can understand how it was unfair to MJ when he flipped after learning the truth but I never took it as a betrayal towards Ayra. He was rejected by her family and she never bothered to reach out to him. You have his sister telling him that everyone else is thinking about their families including Ayra. He decided to think about his family first too. Things changed once he learned the truth. He didn’t feel the need to put his family first.

Also let’s face it, they never portrayed Zaid and Ayra as two people having some great passionate love affair. He placed respect and understanding above love and once he felt that was broken, he prioritized his own family. Even everything he did for her after was motivated by guilt, not love.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: chicksoup


Actually, why not.

He never expected Ayra to back out. She had not left any window for reconciliation. He was heartbroken and confused. And here comes Papa Asif telling him to focus on the business and family and marry a family friend to secure his as well as his sister's future. What else was there for him to look forward to. Plenty of ppl go for an arranged marriage when there's a break up. They don't want to take that effort and pain through an affair again and marriage is the easy way out to start a family.

If someone you really love back out, you’d try to reason with them. Our have literally seen guys go to the house of the girl trying to reason with her parents daily. Anyone who jumps to an arranged marriage or another person just after break up don’t love the person, people still do rebound dating not marriage right after their break up. Only people who like being in relationships and not necessarily love their partner do. Either way it’s not a good look on him. Had it been me, the relationship would have been over the day he said yes for someone else.
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Posted: 1 years ago

Which shows they don’t really know each other that well.

Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

If someone you really love back out, you’d try to reason with them. Our have literally seen guys go to the house of the girl trying to reason with her parents daily. Anyone who jumps to an arranged marriage or another person just after break up don’t love the person, people still do rebound dating not marriage right after their break up. Only people who like being in relationships and not necessarily love their partner do. Either way it’s not a good look on him. Had it been me, the relationship would have been over the day he said yes for someone else.


and mind you, this aspect of the story has NEVER been addressed by the writer or Ayra. Completely illogical story telling just to force a Zaid and MJ marriage. He literally could have married anyone else instead of the girl he despised who he described as “arrogant, rude, selfish” - how was he going to make it work after the Nikkah ? If he didn’t even like her? Lol. It was never going to work out. Eventually he would have distanced himself from MJ no matter what.

Zaid and MJ are only compatible if MJ truly changes herself for the better - otherwise nope. So I guess this whole mess had to happen even though it makes zero sense lol

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Posted: 1 years ago

She’s not the only person who needs to change though. Zaid is worse because he’s the same but he thinks he is better then everyone else I

Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: unicornhugs

Agreed, I can understand how it was unfair to MJ when he flipped after learning the truth but I never took it as a betrayal towards Ayra. He was rejected by her family and she never bothered to reach out to him. You have his sister telling him that everyone else is thinking about their families including Ayra. He decided to think about his family first too. Things changed once he learned the truth. He didn’t feel the need to put his family first.

Also let’s face it, they never portrayed Zaid and Ayra as two people having some great passionate love affair. He placed respect and understanding above love and once he felt that was broken, he prioritized his own family. Even everything he did for her after was motivated by guilt, not love.


I actually really applauded that scene where he placed love and respect over love. It doesn’t mean you don’t love someone, it means love is meaningless without the other two things. And that’s what good stable and healthy relationships sustain themselves on. There’s no point to love if respect and understanding is not laying the foundation for it.

I do agree that like he said, more than love his marriage to Ayra was guilt driven. Which makes sense. His dad destroyed her family after all and he wanted to set things right. That isn’t to say they didn’t grow back together after marriage. Ayra has changed through her trauma and struggling a lot but despite that, there is an underlying love there and understanding of what she’s been through. Right now, zaid is pretty much hers forever if she doesn’t let her insecurities get in the way (which we know, she sadly will). I feel the point of them showing their confessions of love and cute moments is also because of how much it’s gonna hurt zaid later on - Man is gonna be broken (whether eventually he and Ayra part ways or she dies because of asif or whatever).

I also don’t think him and Ayra being in love despite it being complicated right now, takes away anything from him developing future feelings for MJ. You don’t just love one person in your life. You can absolutely love more than once - which is what is going to happen for him I think. Or maybe he will be open to the possibility of love with MJ at the end.

Lately I feel the fandom is suggesting that zaid and ayra aren’t in love which seems strange …especially since the show has established that they are. The show is honestly not that deep. So I don’t see any point trying to belittle the very complicated zaid Ayra relationship just to say oh he’s not in love now , he doesn’t “know” what he’s feeling , it’s not “real” or whatever , but with MJ it would be real ! Love isn’t black or white like that. He’s in love with Ayra now, but he can absolutely develop feelings for MJ later on too. Which I think is where the story is headed. And it makes sense for him to love a changed MJ - he’s seen her whole journey. It’s quite romantic in that sense.

Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

She’s not the only person who needs to change though. Zaid is worse because he’s the same but he thinks he is better then everyone else I


don’t worry - whatever ultimately happens between him and Ayra will be his lesson well learned lol. Writer is not going to let him off so easy after he treated MJ like crap and threatened her with divorce so many times. His Mein was to get the girl he wanted. His love for Ayra and him prioritising her over everything - but then ultimately losing her to his father or her own games - is what will break his Mein. The guilt on the side when it comes to MJ is also helping these days lol

Their endgame would be kind of fitting in that sense actually. They are both really flawed and imperfect people who don’t deserve some clean, rainbow and sunshine ending. They’re gonna get there after a lot of growth and suffering, not before. MJ and her vanity will have to live with the fact that she was never Zaid’s first choice , and Zaid would have to live with the fact that he cursed his first marriage and treated MJ wrong by being too stubborn just to get the girl he wanted when that relationship was doomed anyway after what his dad did to said girl.


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Posted: 1 years ago

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I actually really applauded that scene where he placed love and respect over love. It doesn’t mean you don’t love someone, it means love is meaningless without the other two things. And that’s what good stable and healthy relationships sustain themselves on. There’s no point to love if respect and understanding is not laying the foundation for it.

I do agree that like he said, more than love his marriage to Ayra was guilt driven. Which makes sense. His dad destroyed her family after all and he wanted to set things right. That isn’t to say they didn’t grow back together after marriage. Ayra has changed through her trauma and struggling a lot but despite that, there is an underlying love there and understanding of what she’s been through. Right now, zaid is pretty much hers forever if she doesn’t let her insecurities get in the way (which we know, she sadly will). I feel the point of them showing their confessions of love and cute moments is also because of how much it’s gonna hurt zaid later on - Man is gonna be broken (whether eventually he and Ayra part ways or she dies because of asif or whatever).

I also don’t think him and Ayra being in love despite it being complicated right now, takes away anything from him developing future feelings for MJ. You don’t just love one person in your life. You can absolutely love more than once - which is what is going to happen for him I think. Or maybe he will be open to the possibility of love with MJ at the end.

Lately I feel the fandom is suggesting that zaid and ayra aren’t in love which seems strange …especially since the show has established that they are. The show is honestly not that deep. So I don’t see any point trying to belittle the very complicated zaid Ayra relationship just to say oh he’s not in love now , he doesn’t “know” what he’s feeling , it’s not “real” or whatever , but with MJ it would be real ! Love isn’t black or white like that. He’s in love with Ayra now, but he can absolutely develop feelings for MJ later on too. Which I think is where the story is headed. And it makes sense for him to love a changed MJ - he’s seen her whole journey. It’s quite romantic in that sense.

The lack of love between Zaid and Ayra isn’t something that I just started to feel. I felt it from the very beginning. If anything, I feel like they are showing more love now. I feel the opposite of what you sensed from the show. I felt like show kind of brought doubt about whether or not they are actually in love or not. Yes I do understand that the definition of love can be different for everyone and prioritizing respect and understanding doesn’t mean someone is not in love. My question is, why didn’t Zaid just say yes I love Ayra because we have respect and understanding? His sister asked him if he loved her and he didn’t say yes but said it isn’t important to him. It doesn’t sound like he thinks that’s the definition of love. That’s why I felt like when that was broken, it was easy for him to move on. It was definitely an impulsive move. Then again, he told his friend that he doesn’t even know if he loves Ayra anymore. Why would they throw these things in the show for no reason? Despite all this, he’s always told her that he loves her. I do feel more between them now that they’re married than before. Zaid’s feelings are very unclear.

I agree with you though that even if he is in love with Ayra, it is possible for him to fall for MJ.

Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: unicornhugs

The lack of love between Zaid and Ayra isn’t something that I just started to feel. I felt it from the very beginning. If anything, I feel like they are showing more love now. I feel the opposite of what you sensed from the show. I felt like show kind of brought doubt about whether or not they are actually in love or not. Yes I do understand that the definition of love can be different for everyone and prioritizing respect and understanding doesn’t mean someone is not in love. My question is, why didn’t Zaid just say yes I love Ayra because we have respect and understanding? His sister asked him if he loved her and he didn’t say yes but said it isn’t important to him. It doesn’t sound like he thinks that’s the definition of love. That’s why I felt like when that was broken, it was easy for him to move on. It was definitely an impulsive move. Then again, he told his friend that he doesn’t even know if he loves Ayra anymore. Why would they throw these things in the show for no reason? Despite all this, he’s always told her that he loves her. I do feel more between them now that they’re married than before. Zaid’s feelings are very unclear.

I agree with you though that even if he is in love with Ayra, it is possible for him to fall for MJ.


But see, if they hadn’t thrown in these lines we wouldn’t understand Zaid’s character. He couldn’t just be Ayra’s love, the writer also had to make him her saviour for the audience to accept the second marriage plot. It was easier for us to sympathise with him when his actions are driven not by selfish love but also to actively try to right the wrong done to someone he cared about. He said his dad “killed humanity” basically and he will never forgive him for that, and for the sense of protection Ayra lost, he will give it back to her. It gives another layer to the second marriage plot I think then it being driven purely by a selfish reason like “I love her so I want her.” The writer had to sell the second marriage to us and by the reaction of the audience she was clearly able to do that. Usually in Pakistani dramas love marriages which are second marriages are looked down upon and everyone gets cringed by it but the one in Mein actually got people interested in the plot. It was unpredictable but also warranted - by that time everyone was rooting for Zaid and Ayra to show asif the finger and get married lol. And it was because of the prolonged torture episodes the writer spent on Ayra and her family AND the fact that this did not just happen for love but because Ayra had lost her brother because of Asif’s mess and Zaid wanted to fix that and be there for her. I don’t think the audience would have accepted zaid and Ayra’s marriage if it had happened just because those two wanted to be with each other. There had to be a deeper reason so the audience could accept such a plot. And guilt is a good selling point especially if it’s on top of their shared history.

The respect and understanding line from zaid tells you he places that over love and those two things are exactly what MJ lacks in her behavior. She has to respect and understand people over herself before someone like zaid can even begin to think about her romantically. And no surprise ! The moment she’s pretending to be all respectful and understanding, he’s intrigued lol. These are very important things for him and I feel the writer just wanted to convey that just “feelings” are not gonna cut it for Zaid.

These are my two cents about why those lines were said the way they were said :)

I don’t think he’s pretending when he’s saying those I love yous to Ayra. He absolutely means them. I was always tired of male leads saying I love yous all the time while female leads just smile and blush and hardly ever say it in return in Pakistani dramas lol. So last episode when he said I love you and she said I love you more, I was like YES! FINALLY! Someone said it back 😂😂😂 Because this is so normal ? Idk why Pakistani dramas think the girls have to be all shy about it 🤦🏻‍♀️ nothing wrong with saying it back. Anyway, it was cute and refreshing and with the OST it made for a good “happily married” moment the show clearly lacks lol.

Edited by tgota92 - 1 years ago
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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

If someone you really love back out, you’d try to reason with them. Our have literally seen guys go to the house of the girl trying to reason with her parents daily. Anyone who jumps to an arranged marriage or another person just after break up don’t love the person, people still do rebound dating not marriage right after their break up. Only people who like being in relationships and not necessarily love their partner do. Either way it’s not a good look on him. Had it been me, the relationship would have been over the day he said yes for someone else.


Well said. Zaid and Ayra belong to this category. No one felt they were in passionate love. It was a convenient love. Ayra did feel cheated when his marriage news broke out. Asif's manipulation was so shocking and upsetting, she felt they were both manipulated, that's why she is back with him. If Asif manipulated, her brother also kept the fact away from her- that was her family' s fault too.

There's one more reason Ayra should never have thought of Zaid again. She just cut ties with him in a second...refused any communication - after that, I'm with Kash fully...she didn't respect him enough to give him a reason. He deserved better. She could have met him and talked it out peacefully saying she cannot leave her brother, like he had just come, leaving his family...that conversation didn't happen because after that there would be no room for Zaid's guilt because he married after Ayra clarified her stance ...even Asif's deception has not that much effect because Ayra would have made it crystal clear she chose her family over Zaid...he has no business going back to her after that. Right now the story moved at such a pace with abrupt decisions, so Zaid and Ayra felt their story was sacrificed...if Zaid sat with a clear head he'd understand that Ayra actually was selfish enough to choose her family over him and she didn't even need a solid reason to do so ...brother said, so she agreed....if she had not eavesdropped into the conversation, she would never have looked towards Zaid.

Theirs was not a true love...never...Ayra didn't even make a half hearted attempt to find out what happened or even tell Zaid she'd wait a few weeks and see what's going on in Bhai's mind. She just acted like Zaid didn't matter at all.

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