Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum
just a factual check- if we look at the topics, we have one each supporting and denouncing Israel, and one supporting Palestinians. By my reckoning, that would suggest a willingness to accommodate left-leaning views. Certainly no bias there, and great moderation there especially in weeding out the personal attacks.
and this for carisma: even though we've been on the opposite sides of the divide, I am glad we have been to chat without blowing a fuse.
A lot of it is thanks to you.
I was actually referring to another mutual friend who had shown me those PMs out to discredit and malign people with different POVs. I never thought much of it then because I wasn't looking for anything here other than some light-hearted fun and occasional discussions. I don't remember ever trying to make friends or initiating any conversation on PM with anyone... so it's strange getting told I am following anyone around. Zero interest there. For me, it's more fun coming at it alone, so there's no compulsion to agree/ disagree with anyone. Also, I'd think there are private forums if someone wants to exclude us, no?
I agree with the first paragraph, I think moderation has been fair. Even the new forum rules are clear.
Thank you, yes we do on political grounds etc find ourselves on the opposite on of the spectrum, we share views, put our points forward and possibly learn something new from one another. If these talks were not had, I would have no idea, of what's on the other side of the fence. If I feel I have something to bring to the table in defence then I come forward with it and like wise you do as well. End of the day we merit each other on how we are with each other and our general banters away from those subjects. We do not disregard each other or our points. What everyone must remember is that we have social and personal lives and we encounter these topics and more during our professional hours, would we behave aggressively, come across opinionated, disrespectful or unwilling to listen. No. Then the same rule can be applied here too. I do not believe that we hide behind our ID's online. I like to think that my social ID is also a good majority of representation of whom I am. Having an online ID to communicate with people across the globe does not give anyone a free pass to call people names. A countries democracy has placed 2 sides a right and a left wing, it shows there are people who exist with opposing views. The gov't understands this basic principle but people tend to want to sweep the other party under the carpet like they do not exist. You need two sides to debate in anything, then somewhere along the way new laws will be reformed, decisions will be based on something collectively. If the world sailed in one direction - we will not be going places. We need a bit of challenge, we need to explore, we need to conquer over something and we need a cause to fight for and whilst doing that we need to consider all things. Together like this we can unravel the history, conflicts and truths and to do that we need to talk, we need to bring our voice to the soundbar and be heard. But if people are being ridiculed and mouth taped then how will we ever come to know, how can we build a new trust and evolve as beings and away from our ancestral mistakes or traditional regression and towards the desired 'progressive' world some talk about. For growth it is important to have both commendation and criticism otherwise we will not mature nor cultivate and our achievements will be limited. For any healthy discussion or debate, there is a need for you and a need for me, and I hope we can lead the way by example how we stand on our boundaries and still shake hands. If some want to be led into believing or want to pass false narratives of my faltering or receding from my stances, then let them - because that is their fiction and not my reality.
If you are campaigning for the greater good for anything you feel compassionate about, then you are voice locked within the confinement of such 'privacy'. I like to be heard and I know you do as well, we are blessed and worthy of an exclusion from something that does not serve us with the right platform and I am grateful to those who recognise our worth and knew to exclude and not tie us anywhere, where our potential to broadcast our ideas, thoughts and voice reaches a stalemate.
In the last 8 months or so of knowing you, I have concluded that you do work alone and independently from any group or anyone. You are free spirited and go where the wind blows you, but with your own stance and determination intact. I have some very valuable friends here and I cannot express enough what they mean to me. In general I like harmony and peace between myself and other members and between all members with one another, but like you I also need to be at large and loose. I think before I take action and hence I am answerable to no one.
Yes please do not get into these undesirable forum politics. Be happy as you are.
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