Resurgence | Arshi FF | Thread 2 | thread 3 link posted on page 150 - Page 102

Swati, while I tend to agree with you about the rave party I think you are being too harsh with him on the way he handled the aftermath.

For him to marshal all of his resources and do all of the things you say to do after he comes back from Panchgani over a one night stand I think is unrealistic. He had no idea his worst nightmare would happen and things would blow up in his face.

I don’t believe he set out to deliberately hurt Khushi. As I’ve said over and over I think he loves her in his own f***** up way.

I for one don’t have a lot of conflict how he ultimately handled things. I just have trouble how he was prepared to handle the child. I just think all facets of a child’s welfare trumps all. His mental condition which he doesn’t seem willing to deal with in my mind, makes him cold and heartless in this regard. He got lucky she wasn’t pregnant. Now, he has to deal with a lying *****.

I don’t think he has a soft spot for Lavenya although, in my mind, she is worse than Manali. She’s the one that pursued and slept with a married man. Unless we learn some weird thing, Manali is doing her job like Aman and that is protecting her employer.

No, I don’t think he is a horrible person. He’s just a horribly scarred, mixed up man with mental health issues. And because he has not gotten help which he acknowledges he may need, he has ruined his and his wife’s life by his very, very misguided actions.

And please don’t come after me ( not you, Swati, but the other Arnav lovers ) because, I know if you have mental health issues you are often not thinking straight enough to seek help. But he is rational in other parts of his life so it is possible that he could stop, reflect seriously on his condition and take action.

His putting it to Khushi is a start because they both need intense therapy now. Khushi could have used counseling before but because of Arnav’s actions she is so broken she needs much more intense help.

Originally posted by: BollyBabe75

Swati, while I tend to agree with you about the rave party I think you are being too harsh with him on the way he handled the aftermath.

For him to marshal all of his resources and do all of the things you say to do after he comes back from Panchgani over a one night stand I think is unrealistic. He had no idea his worst nightmare would happen and things would blow up in his face.

I don’t believe he set out to deliberately hurt Khushi. As I’ve said over and over I think he loves her in his own f***** up way.

I for one don’t have a lot of conflict how he ultimately handled things. I just have trouble how he was prepared to handle the child. I just think all facets of a child’s welfare trumps all. His mental condition which he doesn’t seem willing to deal with in my mind, makes him cold and heartless in this regard. He got lucky she wasn’t pregnant. Now, he has to deal with a lying *****.

I don’t think he has a soft spot for Lavenya although, in my mind, she is worse than Manali. She’s the one that pursued and slept with a married man. Unless we learn some weird thing, Manali is doing her job like Aman and that is protecting her employer.

No, I don’t think he is a horrible person. He’s just a horribly scarred, mixed up man with mental health issues. And because he has not gotten help which he acknowledges he may need, he has ruined his and his wife’s life by his very, very misguided actions.

And please don’t come after me ( not you, Swati, but the other Arnav lovers ) because, I know if you have mental health issues you are often not thinking straight enough to seek help. But he is rational in other parts of his life so it is possible that he could stop, reflect seriously on his condition and take action.

His putting it to Khushi is a start because they both need intense therapy now. Khushi could have used counseling before but because of Arnav’s actions she is so broken she needs much more intense help.

oh thank you for saying this!!! Seriously thanks a lot!! I am not sure there’s any Arnav lover here who would say that he’s a saint. He is not. He has made absolutely horrible decisions which have hurt Khushi.

For me his cross is explaining to Khushi why he thought all she wanted a baby. Has she not displayed her utter devotion to him. I understand the guilt. I don’t understand pulling away. Not talking. Stonewalling her.

The only thing where I harshly react is the name calling. Khushi gets all the benefit of doubt in the world but he needs to be better than god!

Amen! He does need to be better than God to have any hope of alleviating her suffering, let alone her forgiveness. Will it be enough to get her back if that is what he and she wants ? Who knows.

Originally posted by: SwatStar_Arshi

I will however answer this one with my point of view because now you are going on an entirely different tangent.

Now he is a villain in your eyes for all the things he didn’t do rather than two pages ago when he was a scum of the earth for doing things which were wrong.

He is already ONE MONTH LATE. As soon as he came back to Mumbai from Panchgani -> he needed to tell everything to Aman, Akash and legal experts right away -> Call back his wife right away and inform her, get her on board -> Discuss the consequences from every possible angle -> Discuss who all will be impacted -> What all immediate actions to mitigate the situation -> If s*x happened, pregnancy discussion must happen immediately and NOT after one month -> Protect wealth, media exposure, emotional stress and protect every party including La at this point of time because Arnav thought she was not a culprit

Why exactly does he need to do any of this? A day after he is absolutely shaken out of his mind (a day after he was violated but I won’t go there since he doesn’t get that sympathy in your book). He is already going through something horrible, chooses to not be the most perfect human on earth for a day, gets taken advantage of but the very next day (when he left for Nepal immediately btw) he should have thought of all this random things??

According to you, he should immediately call his secretary who is also close to his wife and legal experts. For what exactly? To tell them he cheated? He works in an industry where sex is not a big deal. People sleep with each other all the time? And Lavanya said sorry to him for coming on to him? Why should he make this a legal matter?

And you’re backing out of your own argument. Didn’t you say two pages ago that no police, no lawyers get involved over a rave? But now Arnav should have done that??!

And he should inform his wife over the phone? When she is not even around? I’m pretty sure if he had broken the news to her over the phone, then also he would’ve been a coward in your dictionary. He waited for what a respectable marriage deserved. To tell her like a man. Except all the other shit hit the fan in the meanwhile and pregnancy, a topic that’s so touchy between him and his wife got involved.

And he should now discuss everything immediately. He was at an extremely exclusive, elite party! Even Lavanya told Manali that there shouldn’t have been a camera pointed at her in a personal setting.

He asked Lavanya if she wasn’t on any birth control. Why is he wrong to assume that she was on one? (And he wasn’t wrong. She had IUD). In an industry where sex is not a big deal, women do have more permanent solutions. Excuse him for thinking Lavanya, an actress at the peak of her career would be careless with this. (I will again iterate that none of his assumptions were wrong. Lavanya did infact had a more permanent birth control in place)

Why would he think Lavanya was a culprit? He thinks she was out of her mind drunk too? She was casual about it the next morning and didn’t resort to crying like an abla nari. He should then just randomly assume there’s a mess to be cleaned up?

I like how you immediately point to Bollywood and what goes on there, but the very next moment that argument goes out the door. A businessman sleeping with an actress is probably a common occurrence. It’s a big deal to Arnav because he is in a monogamous relationship. He has no reason to think it’s a big deal to Lavanya.

-> Prepare joint statements between Arnav and La plus Arnav and Khushi for worst case scenario if the news / pics are leaked -> See the impact on company shares etc. and manage it with legal team -> Stay low immediately, out of media circus, news and work on action items to get over the situation as a team -> Donate / charity / image rebuilding and bringing positivity and status back to where it was.

Two pages ago, he was scum of the earth for even meeting Lavanya once for taking care of the whole mess. Now he should prepare a joint statement with her in case the pics get leaked.

And this is when he did catch the guy responsible by using the resources a millionaire should have used. No he did not deal with the whole matter like a street vendor running here and there as you so lovingly pointed out. He did the absolute damage control. It doesn’t work that way in the real world too.

EVERYONE TRIES TO SWEEP THINGS UNDER THE RUG FIRST and then plan the public statement/ apology.

Oh by the way, which he did. He just wanted Khushi to be away from the mess. He was going to take the responsibility of the child! In front of the media.

See if the family in natives is going to get impacted and avoid the surprises by communicating with them high level information and strict instructions to avoid media and any random phone calls / texts ->

HE DID THIS ALREADY!!!!!!

The news of his divorce was tightly under wraps. Just like Manali said!!!! That I assume this whole thing is for the benefit of Mrs Raizada. Manali threatened to leak what Arnav has already taken care of!!!! She said you guard your personal life fiercely. How else do you think such high profile divorce case didn’t make it to the news??? The exact reason he got pissed?? He took care of Khushi and her family’s reputation and it has been clearly defined in the FF. I really don’t know if that part has completely skipped your mind to even make this statement that he didn’t protect Khushi or her/his native family.

List who all can benefit from this news (Business people always have rivals list and they keep track rivals for avoiding information leakage during tenders, major bz deals always, use the list ->

He caught the guy! Who confessed he was trying to make a quick buck. And he still kept a tab on him. He did what any rational person would do. He was doing the exact thing you listed wasn’t he? Tracking the guy so he can find out if there’s more? Why is this even an argument here?

This has nothing to do with the character here, this is a life lesson on how to handle things fast furious. Don't wait on your luck or karma to be lucky like Arnav got here since La was not pregnant.

He didn’t get lucky. If anything, he got unlucky because there’s a woman who is annoyingly obsessed with him. He took care of EVERYTHING like the sharp businessman he is.

I don’t think you actually went through my response laced with FF snippets. At this point, we are arguing about absolute random things which are not even remotely true.

Originally posted by: SwatStar_Arshi

Now re-read whichever chapter you want from this story and tell me how many steps Arnav followed to take care of this scandal, he acted like a street vendor handling things alone and no wonder LA and Ma took him for a ride.. What an idiot he looks.

Absolutely. I’ll gladly do this. Here are the things which the supposedly idiot in your dictionary did.

1. Did not dump the decision on Khushi when he wasn’t sure. Because he was aware even that will hurt her if he broached a subject this sensitive randomly

2. Let Khushi go because he believes he has hurt her and become vile with her

3. Is devastated that he can’t change his mind about babies so Khushi should not compromise!

4. Knows Khushi will choose a marriage over happiness. Is more practical than her. Thinks that he will have to make her understand this.

5. Is beyond guilty of what happened with Lavanya. Is a human being so decent that despite Lavanya telling him it wasn’t a big deal, apologised to her because he had one fleeting moment of consciousness

6. Learns about pregnancy, immediately asks about DNA test

7. Immediately hired an ARMY of professionals to first protect Khushi’s assets. She may not care about wealth but he is a practical man. Knows from experience why and how money matters. Anyone who says otherwise doesn’t know how real world works either. His practicality makes him smarter than he is being given credit for

8. Established already that Khushi, besides share in his will, owns majority of everything he has built

9. Tries to be an upstanding guy to a woman whose life he has supposedly ruined. He is quite literally dying under guilt.

10. Thinks at any other time, he would have gone to Khushi to talk. Deals with the whole thing alone because he is waiting for the family

11. In his head, is already not worthy of Khushi. I don’t know why or how that kind of a man is termed narcissistic so easily in your dictionary

12. Took care of pictures within a span of 7 days. But according to you, he should’ve spend that time moping and preparing media statements

13. Manali acknowledged how fiercely he protected his personal life. The reason she could threaten with the news leak is that despite it being two months, Arnav has not let the news go to media.

14. He himself thinks about it. Just because Khushi was not comfortable with cameras, it was Arnav’s design than not a single photographer or reporter dared to ever approach her

15. Is swift even after the news leak. Has people in Lucknow already. Nobody from the media reached to harass Khushi.

16. Knows what kind of a place his hometown is and yet doesn’t berate Khushi. Is dying in guilt and still made sure from far away he could protect her as best as he could

17. Your argument always ends at Khushi rejected Shyam. What was she going to do about panchayat? Tell them the truth? When second marriage topic is a taboo? I think you’ve forgotten that Khushi was basing the acceptance of truth in the panchayat on Shyam’s appearance. She was worried that the way she has behaved yesterday, Shyam would not show up to tell people the truth. The accusations against Khushi were serious and I don’t think you understand how brutal panchayat punishment could have been.

18. If Arnav doesn’t get benefit if doubt, why does Khushi get it from you? She was hurting and went back to a place that she knows is horrible to women. Accepts that Arnav was right and she made a mistake. But Arnav can’t make any mistake in your book?

19. Prioritises bringing Khushi back over EVERYTHING else.

I think I have answered all your questions in the ff snippet one. He did everything as best as he could, swiftly and intelligently. He is the victim here too. He isn’t aware of the level of Lavanya’s obsession. At this point even if he breathes it’s wrong in your dictionary.

His biggest fault is communication and stonewalling his wife of 10 years. That’s all. That’s all that ended up hurting her. And in ways that he didn’t imagine was going to unravel. I hated those lines too, but after the last two chapters I get why he said “if I knew I would break you to such extent I would not have gone ahead with the divorce”. I think that says a lot about him as a person. I am tired of answering random accusations now. They’re literally coming off of thin air without having an iota of what happened in the story in them.

I am again so sorry for the strong language. I really am. But I hope you unerstabd yours is equally harsh without taking a single thing I said into consideration. No harsh feelings. Just explaining myself on a story we both feel strongly about 👍🏻🙃

And he said the divorce thing before he found out she knew about Lavenya and before he tells her about what happened with the infidelity. Will he also tell her about the pregnancy scare and aftermath? He is really going to see a broken human being then. I can’t even imagine her heartbreak and by extension his. It’s going to take a very long time for Khushi to feel human again. And Arnav: Burn! Baby! Burn! I do feel a little sorry for him, though! He’ll be going through worst Hell than he is now.

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3 test kits are positive and she thinks she "might" be pregnant? And why is she going on crying about an illegitimate child? What else can she expect when she sleeps around without getting married first? She is an actress and we can't put it past her to act out being upset. With her experience in this area she should be prepared for these situations.

She agreed to the DNA test. She can't exactly say no can she?

Originally posted by: BollyBabe75

And he said the divorce thing before he found out she knew about Lavenya and before he tells her about what happened with the infidelity. Will he also tell her about the pregnancy scare and aftermath? He is really going to see a broken human being then. I can’t even imagine her heartbreak and by extension his. It’s going to take a very long time for Khushi to feel human again. And Arnav: Burn! Baby! Burn! I do feel a little sorry for him, though! He’ll be going through worst Hell than he is now.

I am dreading that moment so much! Till now I was worried about him telling her about the infidelity. Now there’s a pregnancy involved? I know it was fake but it would absolutely and harrowingly break Khushi. She is broken as it is just knowing about Lavanya. I can’t imagine what the whole truth will do to her. Just when I imagine she is at her absolute lowest, the situations somehow dig the hole deeper for her.

Arnav will go through the worst hell possible. His pointing finger always finds himself. He anyway thinks he is not worthy of her. And he had no idea to an extent he had broken her (his own admission). Now what will he do? How will he look at her and tell her I misread you to a point where I have caused this? 💔💔💔

Khushi is in for another heartbreak and I am there with her. My heart has already broken a little for Arnav, it will shatter for Khushi 😭😭

Coderlady, a child is precious, valuable and has an equal right to happiness regardless of the situation of its birth.

What a story. Take a bow. I am sooooo emotionally invested in it and read the entire story at a stretch

U r a gift d writer. Hats off to ur writing.

Ps I am a silent reader and u made me leave a comment