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Posted: 2 years ago
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So it is cleared as he went to court.

Accepting a divorce and let him go is not “giving up”. It is called “acceptance”.

Her biggest crimes are to refuse parent visits, emotional manipulation, not revealing the whole truth and making her child’s life miserable. She shouldn’t have done that even if her husband left her for any reason.

since you are so interested in court decision :

KOCHI: A spouse refusing to grant divorce on mutual consent in a failed marriage can be considered as cruelty, the Kerala high court has held. One cannot force another to continue in a failed marriage, the court said.

In the judgment, the court said, “If one of the spouses is refusing to accord divorce on mutual consent after having convinced of the fact that the marriage failed, it is nothing but cruelty to spite the other spouse. No one can force another to continue in a legal tie and relationship if the relationship deteriorated beyond repair.”

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Posted: 2 years ago
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That is true , Teji shouldn't have denied " Viraj's right to visit the child , nor do she was right to destroy Seema's name!

Teju's character look neurotic to me, like she can get obsessed and possessed over the people she loves

She was doing " bechari" drama all these yrs that is scary 🤔

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: SakZ

So it is cleared as he went to court.

Accepting a divorce and let him go is not “giving up”. It is called “acceptance”.

Her biggest crimes are to refuse parent visits, emotional manipulation, not revealing the whole truth and making her child’s life miserable. She shouldn’t have done that even if her husband left her for any reason.

since you are so interested in court decision :

KOCHI: A spouse refusing to grant divorce on mutual consent in a failed marriage can be considered as cruelty, the Kerala high court has held. One cannot force another to continue in a failed marriage, the court said.

In the judgment, the court said, “If one of the spouses is refusing to accord divorce on mutual consent after having convinced of the fact that the marriage failed, it is nothing but cruelty to spite the other spouse. No one can force another to continue in a legal tie and relationship if the relationship deteriorated beyond repair.”

@red, Acceptance definition can have different meaning for different people. Since they are not divorced how acceptance comes into picture. In Biwi no. 1 movie also, husband start living with sushmita, but wife wanted his husband back. At the end, he comes to his wife. Teji may have thought the same.

@bold, Court Judge wordings are not laws, but can be used as a reference by the lower court in similar cases.

Courts statement is very specific to this case. Read the full case. Husband and wife are not emotionally attached as they are living separately due to their jobs. They are having trouble from the starting. Family court already granted divorce to husband after failed reconciliation process as both are not ready to mend their ways. Wife challenged divorced in a higher court and then the Judge said that their marriage are failed already.

Here when Viraj filed divorce petition. They may have trouble in their marriage but still Viraj didn't think of divorce. Only when he met with Seema and wanted to stay with her, he filed divorce. Why didn't he filed divorce early if he has so problem with marriage. Of course until and unless he find some other girl, he doesn't want divorce.

Divorce proceeding start only after 1 year of separation if it is more than 5 year of marriage. Here Viraj filed divorce and started living with Seema that is Adultery by definition. Since Adultery is not a crime, can't blame Viraj also. Viraj didn't give time for reconciliation. Not even Seema think of it. Why would Teji do it. Viraj and Seema didn't think of Teji, why Teji will think of them.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Acceptance - accepting that your husband no longer want you and want to live with another woman, accepting that bringing back such an husband is loosing your self respect. Accepting that you don’t need a husband who doesn’t love you. Accept that there nothing you can do. In that sense, giving up is also the better choice. Because not giving up will result in ruining 4 lives.

I wasn’t concerned with law anyway. I just quoted that court ruling to say “forcing someone to stay married is cruelty”. The situation of that case and this story is different, but the essence remain same, one partner wants divorce and the other is refusing when clearly the marriage is not working. That is enough. “When” the husband went for a divorce doesn’t really matter.


For me Teji’s mistakes weigh more.


anyway, there is no point in arguing further, since we both have different perspectives on morality.

so agree to disagree ?

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: SakZ

I wasn’t concerned with law anyway. I just quoted that court ruling to say “forcing someone to stay married is cruelty”. The situation of that case and this story is different, but the essence remain same, one partner wants divorce and the other is refusing when clearly the marriage is not working. That is enough.

I won’t blame a person for falling out of love with their partner, for asking for a divorce, for falling in love with another person, for wanting to live with them, for having a life when them when their partner refused divorce. I won’t even count it as adultery or EMA.
i will definitely blame a person to refuse divorce when their partner is clearly is not in love with them but ready for co parenting, for forcing to so anything, for emotionally manipulating their child by feeding one side of the story, for refusing her child a parent, for making her child to believe women are gold diggers etc.


For me Teji’s mistakes weigh more.


anyway, there is no point in arguing further, since we both have different perspectives on morality.

so agree to disagree ?

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Right or wrong is always with perspective. I don't consider anything universal right or wrong. So used law as a reference.

You may call Teji immature that is fine. But what she did is within her right. Same for Viraj, he is also not wrong but he is not saint.

For me, Morality is for self. Applying yours own morality to others is called Judging someone. If I don't eat non-veg, that doesn't mean I consider those who are eating non-veg are doing sin/wrong.

People are having different psychology and comes from different background. People are different that's why the world is beautiful. Putting them into some kind of moral rule book is an insult to the beauty of nature. Only understanding each other we can make the world more beautiful.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Neutral2

@bold I hope you are kidding.

Viraj is enjoying his life with other woman and Teji is left with jealousy and insecurity.

A man can get much younger wife after divorce but woman will have difficulty (almost impossible) to get new husband at the age of above 37 with a kid. In no way Teji is wrong in refusing divorce.

Also isn't individuality is lost when you come into relationship. You can't take decision alone in marriage. Viraj choose to separate while Teji decided if he left he will not able to meet their son. Nothing wrong. Viraaj has still the option to go to court instead he choose to have another baby. Why Teji has bear this nonsense.

Not to glorify viraj what he did was wrong. But what Teji did was wrong during the past revelation track it's said that teji and viraj relationship was rocky. And they constantly had discussions for divorce. Seema would not have entered in Viraj and Teji life if there was no cracks. It seems Viraj father was constantly struggling with maintaining a relationship with Teji which was not revealed properly and Teji shouldn't destroy a woman just because she was loved by her husband. We have many times seen that she needs constant assurance from Vihaan and is clingy. I can understand Teji but in

1. the end when someone has filed for divorce against you and is ready to give you everything you just need to be done with them .

2.And it's said he wanted to keep relationship with son which she did not allow which is also wrong.

3. She shouldn't ruin Seema Dutta by stating she is a prostitute when clearly she knows problem lies within her family.

Chalo we can say 1&3 she wanted Viraj to suffer + she did not want to leave Viraj even if they are trapped in a loveless mrg and in the end Seema did EMA so she is wrong

But I can never accept 2 keeping a child away from anyone parent that's not acceptable.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: janaki17789

Not to glorify viraj what he did was wrong. But what Teji did was wrong during the past revelation track it's said that teji and viraj relationship was rocky. And they constantly had discussions for divorce. Seema would not have entered in Viraj and Teji life if there was no cracks. It seems Viraj father was constantly struggling with maintaining a relationship with Teji which was not revealed properly and Teji shouldn't destroy a woman just because she was loved by her husband. We have many times seen that she needs constant assurance from Vihaan and is clingy. I can understand Teji but in

1. the end when someone has filed for divorce against you and is ready to give you everything you just need to be done with them .

2.And it's said he wanted to keep relationship with son which she did not allow which is also wrong.

3. She shouldn't ruin Seema Dutta by stating she is a prostitute when clearly she knows problem lies within her family.

Chalo we can say 1&3 she wanted Viraj to suffer + she did not want to leave Viraj even if they are trapped in a loveless mrg and in the end Seema did EMA so she is wrong

But I can never accept 2 keeping a child away from anyone parent that's not acceptable.

I don't think there is mention anywhere that they were in discussion of divorce. They are not in healthy relationship and once Seema entered Viraj life, Viraj filed for divorce.

1. I agree if someone want divorce or filed divorce, just leave them, doesn't matter whether it 10 yr or 20 yr of marriage. But I won't blame a person if someone doesn't want a divorce after having 10 year of marriage. It is easy to say but very tough to live especially if your partner immediately move on with other person. The feeling of jeoulsy and insecurity is natural. If love outside marriage is natural why not hate, jeoulsy and insecurity.

2. Who is he alone to decide everything. Anyway there is no divorce so he can meet his son anytime. May be after school he can pick up and spend sometime. I think there is an agreement between Teji and Viraj that if he want to leave Teji, he have to leave Viaan also forever and Viraj agree to that. Viraj is already living his life, why he should disturb Teji's family.

3. Prostitute turn to Mistress in the recent statement. Seema was not professional Prostitute. She was working in Earthcon. I will go with mistress. BTW, mistress is not wrong word. Mistress is feminine of Master which mean ruler/controller (of heart). Generally other woman is called mistress. It is like saying Vanya is illegitimate child of Viraj. Though it hurts but it's true.

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