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Originally posted by: SwatStar_Arshi

I can't say the same thing enough, Arnav is a complete dimwit for an astute, talented, and super rich businessman! He is aclassic example of what emotions can do to you! I am not going there again and again; we all have discussed this at length. But few other points here..

The reason Arnav didn’t suspect foul play because he knows what 6 strong mix and match drinks can do! Memory of his own actions have forced him to accept he slept with La. This is a clean consensual act under the influence from what I read and NO R*PE whether we like it or not – He initially rejected La’s advances, but his body took over the response and he let it. He dipped his head and kissed her back, His lips left hers as he buried his head in her neck, unable to control the primal need that seemed to be reigning over everything else at the moment. He clearly remembers them tumbling inside the room, shedding their clothes on the bed as the feverish skins came into contact; tongues duelling, hands digging into flesh. Though not sure if anything further happened but whatever happened, there is no denying La took the lead, came on him again and again but Arnav also gave in, he equally participated in kissing her back, involved in further act, so now does it even matter if they did the final act or not? Yes, only matters for the pregnancy, but otherwise he has committed adultery, period. Alcohol, drugs, and an aggressive woman seducing him and not leaving him at all, he was not in no control and bound to succumb to the lethal combo. At least this is my take for now.

While carrying the burden of responsibilities since teenage, Arnav has developed massive phobia and mental issues towards responsibilities. The parents especially his father expecting him to do things for their family name or to have a certain image in society while making him sacrifice during his golden years of life is a lot and does put tremendous burden. (I still remember the expectations my husband's extended families had after we came to USA and both having IT jobs. Everyone reminded him how they helped him to be the successful at young age and expected monitory help and its common practice I feel everywhere.) Arnav’s struggle days are gone but expectations to always rise to be righteous and give in to family’s demands have left massive mental trauma. Then keep his love happy since she is integral part of his life is his personal goal, but baby responsibility creates a major conflict. While chasing success and money, he lost his footing to reality. He is being aloof and running away from problems not even wanting to talk is a bummer, since Khushi understands him so well, always there for him and could have explained or taken him for counselling. But then with mental sickness, people behave very differently and do not realize what they are doing or its consequences; Arnav here is in constant dilemma regarding Khushi’s happiness and baby. I have called him sadist for wanting to use La info to divorce Khushi making me feel he has gone to the darker side in life, narcissist and self-centered all the time in the past, but it looks like he has serious mental issues and tends to be over critical on himself, over perfectionist and negative enough to run away from situations. In trying to do the best for Khushi, he has wronged her the most!

Khushi, I feel is most unlucky person on this planet. She has no clue where Arnav is, she doesn’t know La’s obsession for her husband, what he is doing in Panchgani, if her hubby just landed at the wrong place at the wrong time but she is playing the biggest price in the crossfire. She is the biggest victim with minimal or almost no faults of hers… Why I say almost no faults, one thing I would like to point out here is Khushi is equally aware of showbiz and its lifestyle should have made some strict rules. Why on this earth she would let Arnav be alone and not go with him to such parties, she should have kept their differences and fights aside, but knowing the tramp category women, low life actresses are out there waiting for an opportunity to trap a right guy and Arnav here is young, one of the most handsome and filthy rich guys, she should have accompanied him frequently and involve Aman too when she cannot!I know the onus is on Arnav to stay loyal, ethical but wives have their roles too. World is not perfect out there but jealousy, evil is always peeking to bring you down!

But my focus and curiosity lie with La and Ma and these two vile ladies on the other hand are at the top of their game, were waiting for anopportunity and planned so well. They did homework about his nature, background,and weaknesses extremely well to use it when needed. Still, I doubt La got pregnant by him, see they were together on 9th Oct 2015, La is at Shantivan on 8th Nov 2015 claiming she is pregnant, seriously?? Even doctors will ask you to wait for couple of weeks before confirming. More than pregnancy, La and Ma were trying to push him through tremendous guilt of cheating with Khushi, being not worthy of her anymore and hence divorce is the only way forward. Ma was blackmailing Arnav in Feb 2016, if La was preggo then, she would be 4+ months pregnant and soon / already showing… In this case Ma doesn’t need to blackmail Arnav about his divorce leak but La being pregnant itself would be sufficient to demand marriage with La. Arnav was hardly home in Nov-Dec time frame; maybe helping La to get rid of the baby or La aborted owing to her career, Ma’s insistence, and Arnav’s dislike towards babies, we will know soon. Arnav breaking ties on 2nd Jan 2016 indicates La’spregnancy chapter was taken care by then or La just felt pregnant but was not. But I have one more theory here, just because La was obsessed with Arnav doesn’t mean she was celibate for 6 long years, knowing the bit*h’s history with men and her needs, she must have got pregnant with someone else and conveniently used it to trap Arnav. If only Arnav can get out of his wallowing in guilt mode and checks pics Khushi has and realizes how royally he has been duped by these two women, even now he can use all his resources to figure what exactly happened and get some clean chit for himself. He needs to punish La and Ma hardest.. Also the way Arnav talked to La over phone and later with Ma when she blackmailed tells two different tales! How come he didn't find further insights after knowing La's background of sleeping with married men and being crooked???

But if La was really pregnant, Khushi should not forgive him ever. Just the thought of him getting another woman pregnant in his reckless behavior, the rightful right he denied to his beloved wife for years seems an impossible mountain to conquer at this time! Even if Khushi realizes his mental trauma, she will still be there for him through La ruckus, his counselling / recovery and be his relentless support, but she needs to think about her emotional damage too and we will see how this enfolds.

Arpita again extraordinary chapter with extraordinary writing skills but I have one major complain this time though, I am truly disappointed with you on this chapter, what has happened to your attention to details here girl?

The Oscar worthy performance was by the boxer Arnav wore, the MVP of this chapter and you haven't even specified brand, size, material, color, elastic or Govinda style naada 😛 😛, anything else I missed?? This chapter should be named “Oscar worthy performance by the Boxer!”

Tashi - You rock, I was ROFL this morning on some of your comments and my hubby sure doubts I have gone nuts, or he is convinced Resurgence is all about s*x 😛 😛, He knows my passion for reading but he is confused when did I change my genre???? Ha ha.

Puja - Stay away from our comments for your own sanity,else we don't know what you will be dreaming next!

Ashvini - Some fab guesses, keep it up!

But I have been re reading the part of Arnav in the party and his reactions specially after having last glass of alcohol were more like someone who is on drugs not plain simply drunk.

Like my friend after having bhang was singing and laughing and crying at the same time. Her mother and I though could not stop laughing 😆 and she did not remember much after it. But this is the girl who can handle her alcohol.

So, Arnav though has flashbacks, I can share the article which I read on hallucinogen drug, it says people get it. And he behaved like a crazed person.

So, I strongly believe he was drugged.

Also, I have always believed alcohol can mess with you but not like drugs(they are scarier, a drunk girl might not be able to fight back but date R*ape drug can just rob her of her memories and they are not even conscious to know what has happened with them) . I don’t know much, this is all based on my reading but I can may be understand Arnav’s infidelity more if he was drugged than if he was just drunk.

I don’t know if it makes sense or not.

Guess everything will be revealed after Lavanya’s POV.

Swati, boxers or briefs?

You said much better than I did why I don’t think it was rape but a frenzied alcohol fueled consensual act in the end. He tried to resist but in the end gave way. Now if she were sober and gave him some sort of enhancing drug then yes, I do believe it would be rape. But the fact that they both I presume, acted with their defenses down because they were drunk then no. Plus as you pointed out his responses and memories of disrobing were not coerced.

Spot on with what I feel.

We don’t know at this point, whether his drinks were spiked so I am going to reserve judgement on that until there is more clarification. I’m just not going to jump on that band wagon without some sort of proof. Alcohol also can effect people different ways. I get sleepy and sluggish. My best friend gets hyper. Her husband gets mean. My husband gets affectionate and too touchy feely for public. How do we know at this point.

Originally posted by: tashi26

Swati, this story is going to bring all of ours crazy side out. Poor Puja😂

But I have been re reading the part of Arnav in the party and his reactions specially after having last glass of alcohol were more like someone who is on drugs not plain simply drunk.

Like my friend after having bhang was singing and laughing and crying at the same time. Her mother and I though could not stop laughing 😆 and she did not remember much after it. But this is the girl who can handle her alcohol.

So, Arnav though has flashbacks, I can share the article which I read on hallucinogen drug, it says people get it. And he behaved like a crazed person.

So, I strongly believe he was drugged.

Also, I have always believed alcohol can mess with you but not like drugs(they are scarier, a drunk girl might not be able to fight back but date R*ape drug can just rob her of her memories and they are not even conscious to know what has happened with them) . I don’t know much, this is all based on my reading but I can may be understand Arnav’s infidelity more if he was drugged than if he was just drunk.

I don’t know if it makes sense or not.

Guess everything will be revealed after Lavanya’s POV.

I have a qq - WIll drug make him to give in or take initiative too in act of s*x like Arpita has written here.

Arnav kissed La, he buried his head in her neck, removing each other's clothes, hands digging in flesh..

Arnav not protesting but just lying there and La do everything is one thing but he also participating is different right? So irrespective of drug or mixed alcohol, he did lose his control and let his body response / primal need take over, isn't it? And worst part he remembers very clearly participating..

I agree without alcohol or drug, he will never do this but what it means by he remembering what he did?? Does it not make consensual?

Unless the drugs make him feel he did it by watching someone else actually doing it, is it even possible??? I am just curious..

Originally posted by: SwatStar_Arshi

I have a qq - WIll drug make him to give in or take initiative too in act of s*x like Arpita has written here.

Arnav kissed La, he buried his head in her neck, removing each other's clothes, hands digging in flesh..

Arnav not protesting but just lying there and La do everything is one thing but he also participating is different right? So irrespective of drug or mixed alcohol, he did lose his control and let his body response / primal need take over, isn't it? And worst part he remembers very clearly participating..

I agree without alcohol or drug, he will never do this but what it means by he remembering what he did?? Does it not make consensual? I am just curious..

2) https://adf.org.au/drug-facts/psychedelics/.

Just please read them once may be they can explain why after the drugs it is not consensual. Also he tried refusing, he was pushing her to call the driver.

Originally posted by: tashi26

1) https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/6734-hallucinogens-lsd-peyote-psilocybin-and-pcp#:~:text=Hallucinogens%2C%20or%20psychedelics%2C%20are%20a,%2C%20PCP%2C%20psilocybin%20and%20others.

2) https://adf.org.au/drug-facts/psychedelics/.

Just please read them once may be they can explain why after the drugs it is not consensual. Also he tried refusing, he was pushing her to call the driver.

Gosh, the two bitches got him laid??? OMG, I truly hope Arnav figures this out and Khushi shows him pics first...

On a lighter note.

It’s so hot here. In fact it is very difficult to even sleep at night. So since it’s too hot to be out doors except for very early morning and even with air conditioning it’s warm inside, I have been binge watching Braun’s new Netflix show Kohrra, interspersed in reading this stream of responses since very early this morning.

If you watched his award winning performance in Asur you will be blown away by this show. His acting just keeps getting better and better. He tends to mumble at times but his articulation in Punjabi is better than his Hindi or English enunciation. As if I guess, I would know.

The plot is fascinating and fast paced. Barun is quite a bad boy. He looks delicious without a shirt on and him in a turbin is a sight to see. Check it out if you can. It’s dark but not heartbreaking like this story.

Originally posted by: SwatStar_Arshi

I have a qq - WIll drug make him to give in or take initiative too in act of s*x like Arpita has written here.

Arnav kissed La, he buried his head in her neck, removing each other's clothes, hands digging in flesh..

Arnav not protesting but just lying there and La do everything is one thing but he also participating is different right? So irrespective of drug or mixed alcohol, he did lose his control and let his body response / primal need take over, isn't it? And worst part he remembers very clearly participating..

I agree without alcohol or drug, he will never do this but what it means by he remembering what he did?? Does it not make consensual?

Unless the drugs make him feel he did it by watching someone else actually doing it, is it even possible??? I am just curious..

It’s proven that the decision making is severely impacted in case someone is under influence. In such a scenario, coercing them into the point of submission, what does that make it? If we leave drugs aside and consider alcohol alone, even then. If anyone is under such duress, would it ever make it consensual even if they end up acting on very biological urges?

For example, drunk people are often confident that they can drive safely. The thing is that their brain is not capable of even assessing their ability to drive. Whether they can actually drive safely or not comes later. It can even be argued in a court whether the act was consensual if one party wasn’t even capable of sound decision making.

Ethically she should’ve moved away given his state because that’s what any decent human being would do. Especially when he let his desire to be away known by telling her and pulling himself away.

Let’s say he didn’t give in later and walked away instead of kissing her back (after repeated attempts btw). Wouldn’t that make Lavanya kissing him repeatedly, forcing herself on her? It’s an easy exercise if we reverse the genders. Had it been a guy kissing a girl repeatedly and she walks away at the end. Is she not violated then?

I would still call it Arnav’s mistake and I might not use a word as strong as r*pe . But he was clearly taken advantage of.

Originally posted by: BollyBabe75

On a lighter note.

It’s so hot here. In fact it is very difficult to even sleep at night. So since it’s too hot to be out doors except for very early morning and even with air conditioning it’s warm inside, I have been binge watching Braun’s new Netflix show Kohrra, interspersed in reading this stream of responses since very early this morning.

If you watched his award winning performance in Asur you will be blown away by this show. His acting just keeps getting better and better. He tends to mumble at times but his articulation in Punjabi is better than his Hindi or English enunciation. As if I guess, I would know.

The plot is fascinating and fast paced. Barun is quite a bad boy. He looks delicious without a shirt on and him in a turbin is a sight to see. Check it out if you can. It’s dark but not heartbreaking like this story.

Originally posted by: VeiledWords

this can actually be a very serious topic and I knew this was going to come up sooner or later.

It’s proven that the decision making is severely impacted in case someone is under influence. In such a scenario, coercing them into the point of submission, what does that make it? If we leave drugs aside and consider alcohol alone, even then. If anyone is under such duress, would it ever make it consensual even if they end up acting on very biological urges?

For example, drunk people are often confident that they can drive safely. The thing is that their brain is not capable of even assessing their ability to drive. Whether they can actually drive safely or not comes later. It can even be argued in a court whether the act was consensual if one party wasn’t even capable of sound decision making.

Ethically she should’ve moved away given his state because that’s what any decent human being would do. Especially when he let his desire to be away known by telling her and pulling himself away.

Let’s say he didn’t give in later and walked away instead of kissing her back (after repeated attempts btw). Wouldn’t that make Lavanya kissing him repeatedly, forcing herself on her? It’s an easy exercise if we reverse the genders. Had it been a guy kissing a girl repeatedly and she walks away at the end. Is she not violated then?

I would still call it Arnav’s mistake and I might not use a word as strong as r*pe . But he was clearly taken advantage of.

Drugs can make you a totally different person, they really f*ck with your mind.

I wish I could share the case studies done in college here but can’t.

But if No means no for a girl why not the same for a guy.

Even lawmakers in some countries do not understand this. People are fighting for this all over the world.

Arpita, by that logic if Lavenya is also drunk her judgement is also impaired and yes, she is taking advantage of him but also acting on her baser instincts as he is. We just know how obsessed she is with him so that colors our judgement as to her motives. A person driving under the influence of alcohol is still guilty. Now if she or Manali drugged his drinks that is a whole different scenario.

But, we don’t know if his drinks have been spiked yet and people are jumping on the bandwagon in my estimation too quickly. Read my previous response as to what alcohol does to me and people close to me.