TERE BIN - Yumna Zaidi-Wahaj Ali DT #146 "Pyaar Karlun?" - Page 57

Originally posted by: WanderingWonder

Guys, was wondering. How will they fulfill the angst part of season 2? The angst itself helped to create so much of the 🔥 in season 1. But now they’re together and don’t hate each other. Thoughts on how they might approach this? Another separation would be overkill.

Idk why I think the story will not be continuation of S1. Because what's left to show???

Originally posted by: WanderingWonder

Long post but needed to write it:

Ok…I am so late with this, but I finally watched the Nooran SH interview and it made me happy. From my perspective, it absolutely confirmed there was no rape and backed up what I had written in an earlier post here. I wanted to add my views here. Again, apologize for the length.

Nooran said “maybe” Geo Wale showed it on their promo, but it was not rape, it was consensual. She confirmed it again when Amna asked specifically. She basically said “it wasn’t rape, we showed you what you wanted (we clarified that it wasn’t rape by changing the scene with voiceovers), so what’s the problem now?” HERE IS THE THING: I don’t think Nooran really understood the promo’s effect on everyone, and maybe it’s b/c she’s the writer and she knew for sure it wasn’t rape, so she didn’t get it. When she saw the promo, she probably wasn’t watching it the same way a random audience member is. (As a reminder, many of us also watched the promo and didn’t think it was MR.) I’m pretty sure the changes she was referring to that Geo made were the voiceovers providing clarification (what the audience wanted) that it wasn’t MR.

Also, Nooran seems very black and white about things…not as deep as some audience members for sure, and maybe even the actors and actresses and director themselves. (Prime example: fans believe Murtasim had a thing for Meerab from the beginning. Nooran, the writer of the story/characters herself said, nope, he didn’t like her and he only started falling for her after he started feeling bad for her on the parent’s revelation matter. I personally think Wahaj added nuances that made us feel Murtasim liked her before, not b/c it was written in the script.) So similarly, here, Nooran was basically very black and white about this MR situation. Her stance is, as I wrote above: it wasn’t rape, we clarified this for the audience b/c you wanted that, with voiceover explanations, and so now what’s the issue? And to be completely honest, I kinda agree with her. Even now that she has confirmed it wasn’t rape, people still believe it was and are insisting it was. Even thought she said it wasn’t. I didn’t find her body language to indicate otherwise either. What can she do about it? Nothing. Frankly, it’s not her fault the way the director directed that scene and the way the editors created the misleading promo. AND also, I’m assuming Yumna has never had sex before (as she’s very religious) so I also think that she maybe didn’t know how to give the most aptly acted reactions in that scene as well. I always thought her acting was off there, whether it was MR or not, and I think she just didn’t know how to add that nuance to the predominant guilt reactions she was trying to portray. Also the Wahaj breaking the mirror scenes were just plain dumb and “over” in terms of writing and directing.

Also, Nooran was an idiot for posting a story with someone’s article about it being MR. I assumed that the article was written by taking her comments out of context, and was confused about why she would post it then. (As a lawyer I look for sources and specifics, phrasing, terminology…after reading those articles they smelled of misconstrued takes and misrepresentations that are often plenty in news articles/outlets and sources like that.) But I suspected she was doing that as part of the suspense/drama promotion aspect, and the “it was needed for the climax” wasn’t referring to MR, but to the sex and breaking of the contract itself. If you noticed, Nooran does weird things like that. Just a day or two ago, she posted a fan-made drama poster with Yumna, Wahaj and Haya on it, entitled TB season 2. People assumed it was real b/c she was posting it, and others corrected them saying it wasn’t, she had just posted someone’s fake poster. So what it confirmed for me is that Nooran has this weird sense of dry sarcastic humor where she will post stories, not necessarily to confirm/deny something, but to maybe mock it or arouse suspense etc. (I’m not saying I agree with her about this..but that’s her marzi and she doesn’t seem to care.)

And Nooran’s explanation for why Meerab felt bad and left (she broke her promise to herself, which hurt her pride, and then she had to leave b/c she had previously stated that she would leave if the contract was broken; essentially she was leaving b/c of her ana/ziddh etc.) also confirms for me what I wrote earlier, and why her leaving might make sense from her POV, in a non-MR scenario. (Although…I don’t like her leaving b/c of this, and didn’t find it to be believable and good writing either.)

I am not defending Nooran’s writing in the later episodes, nor her conduct at the time of the whole potential MR promo. But for me, the issue of MR/No MR is done and dusted. Even Amna admitted that she heard from people at the shooting that scenes were reshot, but who were those folks and what specifically was reshot? It’s not like they were going to actually shoot MR or consensual sex in PTV in the first place, so again, what was reshot? Amna and Hassan didn’t talk to the director, producers, or the actors which speaks volumes about authenticity sometimes. People like Amna, Hassan, and several fans just like to proclaim things as definite, without knowing for sure, and I noticed that it tends to sway a lot of fan’s opinions on things.

Thank you for putting this in words. If you look at Meerub’s reaction right away she looks at MK longingly when he is walking away as though to call him back. There is no sign of struggle. Then a day after she is still longing for him and MK doesn’t look guilty so none of this adds up for me.

They did show over the top reactions when MK is breaking the mirror etc and Meerub when she is walking away but NM clearly said Meerub leaves due to her Ana.

Originally posted by: arfanazneen

Idk why I think the story will not be continuation of S1. Because what's left to show???

I want a continuation only because I love their characters but only if the story is good and takes advantage of their chemistry. Nooran seems to have already forgotten a few things so I’m not sure if she would find it necessary to tie up loose ends.

Originally posted by: WanderingWonder

Guys, was wondering. How will they fulfill the angst part of season 2? The angst itself helped to create so much of the 🔥 in season 1. But now they’re together and don’t hate each other. Thoughts on how they might approach this? Another separation would be overkill.

Originally posted by: WanderingWonder

Long post but needed to write it:

Ok…I am so late with this, but I finally watched the Nooran SH interview and it made me happy. From my perspective, it absolutely confirmed there was no rape and backed up what I had written in an earlier post here. I wanted to add my views here. Again, apologize for the length.

Nooran said “maybe” Geo Wale showed it on their promo, but it was not rape, it was consensual. She confirmed it again when Amna asked specifically. She basically said “it wasn’t rape, we showed you what you wanted (we clarified that it wasn’t rape by changing the scene with voiceovers), so what’s the problem now?” HERE IS THE THING: I don’t think Nooran really understood the promo’s effect on everyone, and maybe it’s b/c she’s the writer and she knew for sure it wasn’t rape, so she didn’t get it. When she saw the promo, she probably wasn’t watching it the same way a random audience member is. (As a reminder, many of us also watched the promo and didn’t think it was MR.) I’m pretty sure the changes she was referring to that Geo made were the voiceovers providing clarification (what the audience wanted) that it wasn’t MR.

Also, Nooran seems very black and white about things…not as deep as some audience members for sure, and maybe even the actors and actresses and director themselves. (Prime example: fans believe Murtasim had a thing for Meerab from the beginning. Nooran, the writer of the story/characters herself said, nope, he didn’t like her and he only started falling for her after he started feeling bad for her on the parent’s revelation matter. I personally think Wahaj added nuances that made us feel Murtasim liked her before, not b/c it was written in the script.) So similarly, here, Nooran was basically very black and white about this MR situation. Her stance is, as I wrote above: it wasn’t rape, we clarified this for the audience b/c you wanted that, with voiceover explanations, and so now what’s the issue? And to be completely honest, I kinda agree with her. Even now that she has confirmed it wasn’t rape, people still believe it was and are insisting it was. Even thought she said it wasn’t. I didn’t find her body language to indicate otherwise either. What can she do about it? Nothing. Frankly, it’s not her fault the way the director directed that scene and the way the editors created the misleading promo. AND also, I’m assuming Yumna has never had sex before (as she’s very religious) so I also think that she maybe didn’t know how to give the most aptly acted reactions in that scene as well. I always thought her acting was off there, whether it was MR or not, and I think she just didn’t know how to add that nuance to the predominant guilt reactions she was trying to portray. Also the Wahaj breaking the mirror scenes were just plain dumb and “over” in terms of writing and directing.

Also, Nooran was an idiot for posting a story with someone’s article about it being MR. I assumed that the article was written by taking her comments out of context, and was confused about why she would post it then. (As a lawyer I look for sources and specifics, phrasing, terminology…after reading those articles they smelled of misconstrued takes and misrepresentations that are often plenty in news articles/outlets and sources like that.) But I suspected she was doing that as part of the suspense/drama promotion aspect, and the “it was needed for the climax” wasn’t referring to MR, but to the sex and breaking of the contract itself. If you noticed, Nooran does weird things like that. Just a day or two ago, she posted a fan-made drama poster with Yumna, Wahaj and Haya on it, entitled TB season 2. People assumed it was real b/c she was posting it, and others corrected them saying it wasn’t, she had just posted someone’s fake poster. So what it confirmed for me is that Nooran has this weird sense of dry sarcastic humor where she will post stories, not necessarily to confirm/deny something, but to maybe mock it or arouse suspense etc. (I’m not saying I agree with her about this..but that’s her marzi and she doesn’t seem to care.)

And Nooran’s explanation for why Meerab felt bad and left (she broke her promise to herself, which hurt her pride, and then she had to leave b/c she had previously stated that she would leave if the contract was broken; essentially she was leaving b/c of her ana/ziddh etc.) also confirms for me what I wrote earlier, and why her leaving might make sense from her POV, in a non-MR scenario. (Although…I don’t like her leaving b/c of this, and didn’t find it to be believable and good writing either.)

I am not defending Nooran’s writing in the later episodes, nor her conduct at the time of the whole potential MR promo. But for me, the issue of MR/No MR is done and dusted. Even Amna admitted that she heard from people at the shooting that scenes were reshot, but who were those folks and what specifically was reshot? It’s not like they were going to actually shoot MR or consensual sex in PTV in the first place, so again, what was reshot? Amna and Hassan didn’t talk to the director, producers, or the actors which speaks volumes about authenticity sometimes. People like Amna, Hassan, and several fans just like to proclaim things as definite, without knowing for sure, and I noticed that it tends to sway a lot of fan’s opinions on things.

Agree with you on this. MR thing is done and dusted especially when they said it was consensual. I don't find the point in still assuming it was MR and calling MK rapist and Mee rape apologist.

Also about Aamna and Hasan I have said this before also that they didn't confirm this from the primary sources and the way Aamna keeps on saying for everything that scene was reshot as if it's so easy to reshoot. Even in the last episode review she said bedroom scene was reshot bcz Mee was wearing nose ring there. TB has continuity issues. Doesn't mean it was reshot. Also they were so hell bent of proving it was MR. Now suddenly Aamna says it's ok bcz it's Meerab's wish to forgive 😂 Whereas she kept on saying before that it's unacceptable.

Also about Nooran, I've said this before as well, she just seems to enjoy or keep the suspense. She doesn't give direct answers. Likes to just leave it open to interpretation. But regarding MR she did say that unhone promo waisa daala tha. Even before she had told MAza ayega. MR hota toh pakka nai bolti

Originally posted by: WanderingWonder

Right?!

Exactly. Also from NM's iv it doesn't even look like she has any ideas regarding S2 yet. If PH asked her for S2, then I am sure they will give her certain ideas to write about? I mean what type of plot they want this time

Yeah I agree. But Nooran has been booked according to her excitement for season 2!

Originally posted by: Gigi78752

they should hire a new writer and do a new story all together…maybe a drama like ZGH 🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️That would be better

Originally posted by: WanderingWonder

Yeah I agree. But Nooran has been booked according to her excitement for season 2!

Originally posted by: unicornhugs

There are some loose ends left and they could still add some angst to it. Overall, I think they have a stronger foundation now but that doesn’t mean that some friction can’t exist. Are Wahaj and Yumna signed on to this? It seems like it going by how they are promoting s2. If so, did they both sign on without a script? After a couple of mishaps in the last season, I’m surprised they would have this much faith. But I guess the makers have learned that adding new things in just for sensationalism won’t work.

I want a continuation only because I love their characters but only if the story is good and takes advantage of their chemistry. Nooran seems to have already forgotten a few things so I’m not sure if she would find it necessary to tie up loose ends.

See the viewers think there are loose ends to tie. But, remember she did not write S1 with the intention of S2. She doesn't find those tracks imp. If you remember, even about Waqas death, she said usko obviously pata chal gaya hai that he died. In one episode I couldn't have shown that.

I don't mind watching continuation bcz their love story wasn't potrayed properly because whole show seemed like only MK's one sided love and his story. So both being in love, confession from Mee and all those things can be there. But again they will really have to think what to add to make that a proper drama. Bcz as such major kuch nai bacha. Easier thing will be to write good fresh story. I can't imagine what she would do or write if it's continuation. Marriage me kya aur triangle and quadrangles. Haha!

Also, you are right. I am surprised how Wahaj and Yumna are onboard without even reading the script bcz as per NM she did not even start writing. Idk.

I hope they pivot and just do something different altogether, as others have also expressed. They would be sooooo goood. As much as I loved TB initially, I’m kind of over the other aspects of TB aside from Yumna and Wahaj. I am STILL traumatized by Sabeena’s bad acting and Zooby’s tight chooridar style jeans. I can’t take it anymore.

Originally posted by: arfanazneen

Exactly. Also from NM's iv it doesn't even look like she has any ideas regarding S2 yet. If PH asked her for S2, then I am sure they will give her certain ideas to write about? I mean what type of plot they want this time