Power imbalance in the pairings - Page 4

Originally posted by: CreativeBuff

Even in Gen 2 Naira was accused of Shubham's death by swarna. Swarna slapped her & threw her out.. Naira was no where involved or responsible for Shubham's death because he died of drug overdose.But still Naira was empathetic to swarna & was guilty . She said " Aap maa hai, aapka dard samajh sakti hu, aapka dard bada hai "

And here we have Akshara, forget being guilty she is extremely insensitive. She says "meri kya galati hai", " chhoti si galti", "mera dard bada hai "

Manjiri's emotional outburst wasn't wrong on white day because no mother will behave sane after seeing the dead body of her son.

Akshara keeps talking about her pain. Did she ever understood other's pain? Did she ever realize that Aarohi became widow, Roohi became fatherless even before her birth, Manjiri lost her son, Abhimanyu lost her brother & two babies,? Just in a day, everyone's world turned upside down.

It took her just 5 months to find another man & start a happy family with him, while she made her sister widow & destroyed someone else's happy family.

She is extremely insensitive, vile & cruel

Naira was empathetic to an MIL who slapped i.e physically abused her therefore Akshara should have done the same is some another level of victim-blaming. What was the point of bringing up Naira's actions?

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Adult kids is an oxymoron. There are either kids or adults.

Whether that absolves Akshara of anything or not, she was a victim of domestic violence.on WD. Shrouding domestic violence in euphemism like emotional outburst, trauma, sadness, insensitivity allows for the false equivalency to be made between Akshara's alleged mistakes and the abuse she went through.

(Adding this for reference where verbal abuse, economic abuse is defined as domestic abuse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_of_Women_from_Domestic_Violence_Act,_2005)

Whether she made any mistakes or had any realisation for the same, it doesn't give her spouse or in-laws the right to abuse her as a punishment. Her mistakes or realisation thereof do not oblige her to rationalise, justify, or forgive acts of domestic violence perpetrated against her.

"I was wrong" doesn't lead to "therefore my ex was right to falsely accuse me of murder" lol

Firstly - why is it not relevant to talk about AK's part in Neil's death?

Secondly - Do you understand the real meaning of Domestic Violence? And do you think people don't understand the meaning of DV? If you rewind the events on that day - please highlight the part where AK was exactly physically abused. You know what else in physical abuse - AK holding Abhimanyu's collar - on different occasions. And as far as emotional abuse goes, both AK and Abhimanyu inflicted on each other. So AK is not the only victim of emotional abuse here

Thirdly - Who shrouded anything in "emotional outburst, trauma, sadness etc etc" . If you care to read the words properly and carefully - NO ONE and I repeat NO ONE - has justified Abhimany's actions on that day. So I don't understand where you are getting this from!

Fourthly - AGAIN NO ONE - NO ONE said that kicking AK out that day was the right thing to do. And no one asked her to 'forgive forget rationalise' . The only point made was - AK thinks she did no wrong - nothing at all on WD. As much as you like to deny it - the AK had a lot to do with the circumstances under which Neil died. Not saying her intentions were wrong but AK thinks her actions were totally justified. The point made was on "self introspect"

So after all I am right when I say why everything comes down to just one thing -- Oh AK was wronged that day!

You have to move on from that point - that has been talked about over and over and over.

Ek maar kha sakti hai to dusri bhi kyu nahi…..logic is impeccable 😂

Aksharas trauma and alleged DV done by birlas - which isn't mentioned anywhere in serial, neither ak herself thinks about it beyond Manju/abhi forgetting about her for years, nor makers care about the DV- is mentioned again and again in this forum as a counter argument for her going to nav marrying him and giving him father's place in abhir's life. It's mentioned to show how abusive the ex relationship of akshara was, it's mentioned when someone points out ak is an abuser herself, and it's said abhi shouting and throwing things is abuse too. But none answered how it started, why abhi or birla was yelling at her. At the mention of Neil's death ak's miscarriage thing comes out, a traumatic event in a woman's life. It's like a grown man died that's fine, the kids died too so it balance out each other. What if ak wasn't pregnant. What if she and neil went to a situation and neil died, and then birlas yelled at her for going into a dangerous situation? Will things be seen differently regarding WD? It happned with shubham too and naira wasn't at fault, yet she was sympathetic towards surekha and the general loss of life. Ak don't even remember neil. That's bad writing no doubt, but she's so fixated on abhi abandoning her and Manju yelling at her that she had forgotten what preceded it. Just like viewers i guess

Originally posted by: gopi2929

Firstly - why is it not relevant to talk about AK's part in Neil's death?

Secondly - Do you understand the real meaning of Domestic Violence? And do you think people don't understand the meaning of DV? If you rewind the events on that day - please highlight the part where AK was exactly physically abused. You know what else in physical abuse - AK holding Abhimanyu's collar - on different occasions. And as far as emotional abuse goes, both AK and Abhimanyu inflicted on each other. So AK is not the only victim of emotional abuse here

Thirdly - Who shrouded anything in "emotional outburst, trauma, sadness etc etc" . If you care to read the words properly and carefully - NO ONE and I repeat NO ONE - has justified Abhimany's actions on that day. So I don't understand where you are getting this from!

Fourthly - AGAIN NO ONE - NO ONE said that kicking AK out that day was the right thing to do. And no one asked her to 'forgive forget rationalise' . The only point made was - AK thinks she did no wrong - nothing at all on WD. As much as you like to deny it - the AK had a lot to do with the circumstances under which Neil died. Not saying her intentions were wrong but AK thinks her actions were totally justified. The point made was on "self introspect"

So after all I am right when I say why everything comes down to just one thing -- Oh AK was wronged that day!

You have to move on from that point - that has been talked about over and over and over.

Do you understand that Indian legislative, and judiciary including the Supreme Court define domestic violence? Which exactly states that verbal abuse is domestic violence. If you feel that the definitions given in the Protection of Women from Domestic Violence Act are inadequate, you can file a PIL.

But as of now asking a woman to leave her marital home, manhandling her and verbally abusing her— are acts of domestic violence.

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Do you understand that Indian legislative, and judiciary including the Supreme Court define domestic violence? Which is exactly states that verbal abuse is domestic violence. If you feel that the definitions given in the Protection of Women from Domestic Violence Act are inadequate, you can file a PIL.

But as of now asking a woman to leave her marital home, manhandling her and verbally abusing her— are acts of domestic violence.

Why don't you file a case on behalf of AK and see if the court admits it as domestic violence?

Originally posted by: LadooCandy

Akshara has zero conscience for that matter and already a gone case .

Sometimes people guilt trip themselves for a death when they aren't even responsible for it , not saying that it is correct though , rather it depicts how much people are sensitive regarding life and death.

And here we have akshara who fails to feel any guilt for leading neil to his death .

Forget Neil.. he’s not Ak’s Blood relative like Kairav is, right? So why will she feel anything.. 🤡 Had it been Kairav in place of Neil, she would have understood her costly mistake. Again.. I’m not wishing for anyone to die or someone who should have died. For AK, only her G family matters so if it was her own flesh and blood brother.. it would have hit her hard unlike her not giving personal space to people during Neil’s death..

But, Abhir’s twin who died.. I’ve NEVER seen this girl mourn for her dead child even once in her life.. 🤬 How can you not cry or not remember for that child even once in these 6 years? 😕

I’ve seen parents who have both.. alive children.. (all grown up, married, etc ) and have faced tragedy in their life ie a dead child also. From time to time, I’ve seen them grieve over their child who died also.. They’ve got the will to live due to alive kids but they do grieve for the dead, do shradh every year, etc

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Do you understand that Indian legislative, and judiciary including the Supreme Court define domestic violence? Which is exactly states that verbal abuse is domestic violence. If you feel that the definitions given in the Protection of Women from Domestic Violence Act are inadequate, you can file a PIL.

But as of now asking a woman to leave her marital home, manhandling her and verbally abusing her— are acts of domestic violence.

I seriously hope you get more clarity on this as well and what exactly domestic violence cases entail irl

Nd how legal definition are actually interpreted irl

There are never that straightforward otherwise we would never need the judiciary at all

Originally posted by: gopi2929

Why don't you file a case on behalf of AK and see if the court admits it as domestic violence?

Funny part is the show never mentioned DV in context of WD at all yet I see it being mentioned on the forum everyday , there was one court case that happened in the show that had fbs of white day yet they never had the court order an investigation into it for DV

They never showed DV nor did any ckt claim what happened was DV

Originally posted by: DevilHere

Funny part is the show never mentioned DV in context of WD at all yet I see it being mentioned on the forum everyday , there was one court case that happened in the show that had fbs of white day yet they never had the court order an investigation into it for DV

They never showed DV nor did any ckt claim what happened was DV

My only point was ... everything comes down to "AK was wronged when she was most vulnerable"

Yes she was. YES it was absolutely horrible what AK faced that day. But I dont agree with that being used to justify all her actions and arguments. The logic here is - Since AK was wronged on WD henceforth (and before that too...as AK herself believes) SHE IS NEVER WRONG. This is hard to understand