TERE BIN - Yumna Zaidi-Wahaj Ali DT #146 "Pyaar Karlun?" - Page 36

Originally posted by: Memu1

I have only 1 regret , today when I watched the last episode again , after Anwar comes and hug meerab , and asks her where were u , immediately BH jumps to say Rohail, infact Saba is the first person who responds to Bh saying she did not go with Rohail.

why did not MK respond before Saba? , infact Saba clearly told him with all proofs , then why he allowed BH to say those. Infact he kept quiet and also was not knowing who the child was , and after MB asked who baby is, and from Meerab mouth he hears the words he is sure.

Moreover when Saba told truth about Rohail why MK did not say to MB , they they were falsely accusing a women to run away with a man .

MK who loves meerab to death , but sadly doesn’t know how to blindly believe her more than anything.

MK was roaring later she is my biwi , but u should roar when someone is falsely accusing someone.

Meerab is more stronger than MK . Let MK say sorry to meerab , n times I am okay .

I love both these , but MK this trait always stings my heart. Even after 2 years when u came to know she is not with Rohail, even if some person says how can u keep quiet when u know truth .

It is Meerab love for MK which she is making her forgive MK, she is accepting him with all his failures.

Originally posted by: unicornhugs

I think he was in shock and processing everything. Nothing Haya was doing or saying was registering to him until she pushed Meerab and Meesam. Then he broke out is non-reactive phase.

Agreed. I think he was just in shock. He had given up hope that she will not return. Suddenly he sees her, I think it shocks him and he is still processing and it seems unbelievable to him that she is here. I don't think he even thinks about child or notices initially. He was just staring at Mee. Even when Haya hold his arm and tries to convince him, he doesn't react just stares at Mee just like Mee stares at him. It registers when Haya pushes her.

Originally posted by: WanderingWonder

Thanks for this - expressed my feelings about how rape is violent. If one imagines it, she would have been yelling screaming and begging him to stop and saying no. Especially because they were already in a heated argument.
Rape by definition is violence. That in no way shape or form changes because of one’s marriage status. It means, at no point in the continuum of affairs did the victim consent, not even in the very last second. I don’t believe this is how it went down - she was raped and yet she was immediately feeling guilty about her role in the rape?! No - maybe another submissive girl, but not Meerab. Meerab would have spit on him and if not angry because of the shock, she would have looked disgusted and sickened type of an anger.
I really still believe she felt guilty that they got into more heated arguments and in that heated environment, she initiated it. After creating the contract and holding it above his head, she felt ashamed for being the one to metaphorically rip it up. It hurt her pride, her ego, and since that was what she was running on at that point…she didn’t know how to deal with that being torn. And she was shown to be stubborn throughout… so if she said that she would leave him if the contract was broken, she would definitely leave. I saw that from the beginning episodes. That would make her pining away for him make sense.

Why do I think she initiated? Well first off, he said that in his inner monologue during the mirror scene. Even if he didn’t say that, the show had been building up to this exact situation. They had been showing Meerab finding him very attractive in recent episodes, and her jealousy building through her explosive angry reactions after the night out scenes etc. And what really hinted at it for me - the scene where she started roughly rummaging theough his pockets to find the note that the kid gave him. That was very unlike Meerab; she had never been so physically forward with him, invading his space like that. But that had been building too - grabbing his collar, grabbing his shawl. I remember thinking wow, she’s so close to him…the halal version of being up in his face. I feel that was a lead up to showing her physical forwardness growing and eventually bubbling over in the heated passion.
I think that’s why Nooran thought that we’d find it amusing… because the girl who spent all 40 + episodes hating this guy or at least carrying proudly the contract on her head…suddenly just broke it herself because she couldn’t resist this guy. Unfortunately for Nooran, the editors and director royally f’ed up that scene sequence and thought it would be thrilling to dangle the MR angle for interest. I think they didn’t expect the backlash at all… so they added the dumb voiceovers to try and make it clear that she wasn’t raped.

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Originally posted by: WanderingWonder

Thanks for this - expressed my feelings about how rape is violent. If one imagines it, she would have been yelling screaming and begging him to stop and saying no. Especially because they were already in a heated argument.
Rape by definition is violence. That in no way shape or form changes because of one’s marriage status. It means, at no point in the continuum of affairs did the victim consent, not even in the very last second. I don’t believe this is how it went down - she was raped and yet she was immediately feeling guilty about her role in the rape?! No - maybe another submissive girl, but not Meerab. Meerab would have spit on him and if not angry because of the shock, she would have looked disgusted and sickened type of an anger.
I really still believe she felt guilty that they got into more heated arguments and in that heated environment, she initiated it. After creating the contract and holding it above his head, she felt ashamed for being the one to metaphorically rip it up. It hurt her pride, her ego, and since that was what she was running on at that point…she didn’t know how to deal with that being torn. And she was shown to be stubborn throughout… so if she said that she would leave him if the contract was broken, she would definitely leave. I saw that from the beginning episodes. That would make her pining away for him make sense.

Why do I think she initiated? Well first off, he said that in his inner monologue during the mirror scene. Even if he didn’t say that, the show had been building up to this exact situation. They had been showing Meerab finding him very attractive in recent episodes, and her jealousy building through her explosive angry reactions after the night out scenes etc. And what really hinted at it for me - the scene where she started roughly rummaging theough his pockets to find the note that the kid gave him. That was very unlike Meerab; she had never been so physically forward with him, invading his space like that. But that had been building too - grabbing his collar, grabbing his shawl. I remember thinking wow, she’s so close to him…the halal version of being up in his face. I feel that was a lead up to showing her physical forwardness growing and eventually bubbling over in the heated passion.
I think that’s why Nooran thought that we’d find it amusing… because the girl who spent all 40 + episodes hating this guy or at least carrying proudly the contract on her head…suddenly just broke it herself because she couldn’t resist this guy. Unfortunately for Nooran, the editors and director royally f’ed up that scene sequence and thought it would be thrilling to dangle the MR angle for interest. I think they didn’t expect the backlash at all… so they added the dumb voiceovers to try and make it clear that she wasn’t raped.

I think what you said makes sense. Even I believe that Mee is capable of initiating it (Nothing wrong with it)

If we see, before marriage they aren't really awkward when it comes to touching. Pushing and pulling chalta rehta tha. Anyway, yes, after marriage she avoids physical touch it I guess but she demanded his complete loyalty or attention since the start of their marriage ( Again it's not wrong, one should always be loyal) She demanded to know where he was on their wedding night. She was super jealous always. Infact I think she was more impulsive one. Like you mentioned, after those night outs, grabbing his colour, desperate to know where he was, pulling his shawl, following him. Then she was also attracted to him. The way she was checking him out. Then also the way she checks his pockets ( That was done tremendously) So, I think she can initiate the intimacy as well. Kind of exercising her haq ( I don't mean force)

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All I see yumna was about to put her hand on his chest 😂😂

I finish watching jo bichar gaye. What a show. Rumi dies at the end 😢 but they had a hug really good tight wala hug at the end which we wanted for meerasim dis not get it. 😆

Surprisingly I liked maya and wahaj's chemistry in that show. Maya's acting was good. 😆

I will always feel sad for not showing meerasim hug properly and meerub and confessing her love to murtasim. 😭

Originally posted by: TR_19

I finish watching jo bichar gaye. What a show. Rumi dies at the end 😢 but they had a hug really good tight wala hug at the end which we wanted for meerasim dis not get it. 😆

Surprisingly I liked maya and wahaj's chemistry in that show. Maya's acting was good. 😆

I w always feel sad for not showing meerasim hug properly and meerub and confessing her love to murtasim. 😭

@bold everyone is disappointed with this I guess. If not all, majority of them atleast

Originally posted by: SheThought

So glad the TB is over and feels great to not have to actively think about the show anymore.

Suddenly all the stress is gone!

I read some posts in the previous AT where some people have expressed that after the last episode they are certain there was MR. My apologies for bringing the topic of MR again, but I came across a comment under SH's last epi review video that I thought to share it here, it presents a compelling argument against the possibility of MR. Not sure if it by our IF user hypnotoad but it brings so much clarity into the whole thing.

I myself have never believed Murtasim was capable of it. He had a tough exterior, but was a kind, gentle soul who loved Meerab dearly and no way could have gone through with something like this. Meerab slapped, spitted on him, taunted him with the contract, pushed all his buttons and yes, Murtasim did get insanely angry but he could not have carried that anger for several minutes, though the whole ordeal while Meerab could be kicking, screaming and crying! He was not an insensitive monster that would have been okay inflicting pain on his love for several minutes.

In my mind, behind the closed door, he may have tried to demonstrate to her how easy it was for him to break the contract by forcefully kissing her or hugging her but then both got carried away, could not control it participating equally.

In this scenario also, Meerab could be feeling broken because the one thing that she was guarding fiercely against this marriage was gone and her ana/ego would not let her accept the fact that ultimately, by her giving into her desire she indirectly accepted this marriage and the man, that she was no longer capable of that hate that kept her going earlier, she lost control of her life again.
And this can also explain Murtasim's guilt right afterwards and tod-phod because in his anger, he started this chain reaction which they both could not control and ended up breaking the contract without Meerab actually explicitly doing it herself.

This also explains Murtasim's lack of guilt during their separation but also him asking for forgiveness at the end since he was the one that started it.

--- Here is the Copy-Paste of the Comment from SH last epi review video ---

@hypnotoadxxx

3 days ago (edited)

Rape is not an act of impulse. It is not a `snap' decision. For Murtasim to rape Merub, he would have had to hold her down while she physically struggled and fought back. He would have had to strip her clothes off her body while he held her down. She was a virgin and her body would not have been prepared for penetration. Penetration would have taken Murtasim multiple tries as would have any further thrusts. All this while, Merub would have cried and pleaded but Murtasim would have ignored her. She would have felt physical hurt while this was going on but Murtasim would have chosen to continue inflicting pain on her.

All in all, the process of rape would have taken Murtasim 15-20 minutes at minimum. From Haya, we know the door was closed for 2 hours. A process which takes 15-20 minutes at least is not an act of impulse - like firing a gun or slapping someone. For those 15-20, Murtasim would have made a series of micro-decisions to continue with the rape and how to effectively optimize his actions in response to Merub's reactions. He could have stopped any time, he could have listened to Merub's cries and pleas - but he chose to proceed with raping her. If rape is something you do in anger or when you snap to har ghar har mohalle har rishte mein har roz rape ho.

Someone who slaps another person is not automatically capable of rape - the perpetrator psychology is completely different. Even OG Murtasim was not capable of rape. This is not the type of anger that old Murtasim displayed. He was entitled but was no Peeral/Meeral - in E1, he fought with Maliks for the izzat of a poor farmer's daughter. Old Murtasim also showed a lot of empathy when he held out his hand to Merub when Wakas left or in the dargah, the man who said mujhe dard hota hai when Merub cries. Old Murtasim -before Merub's love changed him - did not have the character traits that lends to him being a rapist.

Yes after reading your comment I think that’s what happened!

Wish they explained this in a better away ! And didn't take this towards rape route at all! 🤦🏻‍♀️

Originally posted by: arfanazneen

@bold everyone is disappointed with this I guess. If not all, majority of them atleast

I hope the mistake that the market has made they can rectify that on S2. They had to have a hug and confession of meerub. At least she could have said mein kabhi nahi jaongi pyaar ho karti hoon.