TERE BIN - Yumna Zaidi-Wahaj Ali DT #144 - Page 94

Yeah, they really should have Meerab reciprocate to him for something, anything!

I really didn't see the need for Murtasim to say those dialogues that.. after you left I realized, tum mera sab kuch ho, tum se sab hai, Tere Bin main kuch nahin, kuch bhi nahini!

Like what's new!? She and us have heard this 100 times already since they got married and she has never believed him even when he cried buckets and poured his heart out telling her mujhe sambhal lena.

So... did she believe him this time?

Chalo, we assume this time she did, but then, how Meerab felt without him / Tere Bin?

He has stopped doing zidd? hunh... what zidd, when did he do zidd?

Wasn't it Meerab who was always ziddi/stubborn and he had to tiptoe around her?!

He said he would become however she wants him to be, do whatever she wants him to do, he would change himself as per her commands... hasn't he been changing ever since they got married, hasn't he gone out of his way to please her, however reluctantly, hasn't he done things out of his comfort zone and beliefs just so that she remains happy even while there was zero appreciation from her side!

He still has to change? How? What for?

And she doesn't need to?

Marriage was forced on both of them, but he chose to give his all to make this relationship work while she being unhappy with the marriage neither left him nor gave him even basic respect as a fellow human, mistreated him every step of the way. They both were at fault for not having any trust on each other but it was her decision to leave and hide from him and the pregnancy and his kid from him...

He is the only one who has been saying sorry to her since the beginning, she, not once, has properly apologized to him even for things she was clearly at fault!

Today too, she was put on a pedestal while he apologized, that too on his knees with folded hands begging for forgiveness - what exactly was he apologizing for though????

Ok.. but then why did she not have to say sorry? She had nothing to apologize to him for?

Why this one sidedness?

This one partner bending over backwards to keep the relationship going while the other one dictates the rules may make certain section of the society happy, especially since its the female being the boss lady and husband is a meek subordinate but that's now how a relationship works or lasts. Balance is the key to every relationship, romantic or otherwise.

Here, Meerab and Murtasim were hardly equal partners, unfortunately he still remained her puppet.

@underlined

Seriously, this whole Haya-Murtasim fiasco is so bizarre, I cannot make any head or tail of it. So all the dialogues related to and around it didn't make sense to me either.

Haya was not even that important in MM lovestory, cause without her also they had so many issues of their own to resolve so why suddenly so much focus was given to her is beyond me.

The whole question-answer of the day Meerab left was so poorly done and Murtasim looked like a fool when he told Haya that he believed her that day (and volunteered to marry her) but she needed to tell the truth today.

Also, no idea why they had a close up of her expressionless face for nearly 2 minutes today to conclude her lovestory. That precious time could have been given to Waqas-Meerab closure, but oh well!

Both Wahaj and Yumna were par excellence today!!

Yumna's expressions when Haya was accusing her and Murtasim was silent were the best!

Wahaj's eyes, softness of his voice, his interaction with Meesam, his body language everything... superlative! I cried in a few scenes, without even realizing!

Sorry the post became so long, didn't realize it!

Originally posted by: WanderingWonder

❤️ you said exactly what I really thought I would see - equality. I guess that’s why this couple was different for me… they both seemed to be equal and going in that direction eventually.
Yet, he was shown groveling… to me it was very unbecoming. My husband knows how to suck up to me after a fight… but he doesn’t grovel. I guess that biases my attitude towards that. Also the style was too much Jimmy from DNUTN for me. I liked it in that show, just not fitting for me here.

I guess… where is the real character development for Meerab if she can’t specifically express her feelings towards him? I know she was always like that but would have been nice to see this change in her as well. After all, she also did something that’s quite frankly unforgivable in keeping his baby/ knowledge of the baby away from him. I think that warrants some drastic change as well, no? Why only him?
I found the Meerab staring at him scenes weird too. I couldn’t buy her “shock” or disbelief at his love.

Also what’s the point of the dialogue: everything has stayed the same in this room. LIKE DUDE what difference does that make … it’s not romantic when she sees you were also ready to marry your cousin???!!!! “I kept your room the same so you can comfortably stay here while I sleep with my other wife?”

But yes… I admit that I do feel some peace knowing they are together at least.

Originally posted by: Sofna

So, these threads won't be stopping as Sn2 is coming 😆

All those goodbye messages will.be archived till S11 finishes 🤣🤣🤣

I haven't been part of the MR/No MR discussion. I binge watched the series in two weeks without reading updates or viewer comments on Twitter or here. Only while waiting for the last episode did I get on the forum and then realized that the whole sex thing had an MR implication -

While watching it - since they didn't show what happened behind closed doors and since that was followed by Meerub leaving the house - I assumed that Murtasim had got immensely enraged by the fact that Haya's hug led Meerub to misinterpret his relationship with Haya. When Murtasim got the note from the kid, he lightened up, let go of the Rohail line of thought and dashed off to the room to make up with Meerub. Things didn't go that way because of Haya which led to an argument between them and his closing the door in anger. I had hoped they would show what happened behind that door in a sort of flashback ..but since they didn't, I assumed that Murtasim laid bare his emotions in front of Meerub - told her that Haya means nothing to him but that he can't tell her off because she belongs to his family sorta thing ..one thing led to another and their physical proximity and sexual tension got the better of them. After the deed, once their sexual urges were satiated, Meerub realized how she desired the man she supposedly loathed and didn't want to marry. She was confused as to what had happened and perhaps left as she had unknown to her fallen for and given in to her physical urges. Lol, maybe the circumstances were such that they didn't imagine they'd have sex but the tension was too much to resist! ..

i didn't resonate with her leaving the house for so long though and resisting being found by Murtasim ..I assumed then that Haya had kind of threatened her that she would harm Murtasim if Meerub returned kind of a thing ...but I guess it was Meerub's own choice to run away - which was a lame decision.

So yeah, only once i read posts that it was MR that was then reengineered to look consensual that I started rethinking -

So end result IMO, is that it could have been either ways. Today's episode and Murtasim apologizing was perhaps for his anger regarding Rohail, his letting Haya stay on in the house and what not ..not necessarily for rape ..or perhaps for just succumbing and breaking the "contract" ..like he had told her that one day she herself will tear the contract ..but before that he let the gave in to their carnal desires ..and so forgiveness for him not backing out? ..

I don't know ..for me it's open ended...and if they ever have S2 i'd like a FB of what happened that night! and why Meerub ran away and how on earth did Murtasim agree to marry Haya.

Originally posted by: hypnotoad

Until yesterday I thought MR was a hook to create MR/no MR suspense which they will reveal in the final episode through a FB or conversation.

But watching the episode today, esp. Merub and MK actions/reactions - I found myself getting confused. On one hand, it seemed possible that MR actually happened but there are also counter-arguments.

I would like to hear if others have any thoughts or became confused like I did.

Merub's action/reaction

Merub showed no guilt, remorse, shame for having disappeared for 2 years and hiding the baby from her birth father. She made no apologies nor was she asked to make any apologies. Her attitude towards MK - the stony expression when he asks her to sit next to him. Her laying down conditions for staying with MK.

For MR: It all seemed like someone who had a reason to be angry and who feel justified in their stand-offish attitude.

Against MR: Merub was always the type who did not admit her mistakes - nor was she shown to be particularly repentant about not informing friends and family for 2 years about her well-being at least. Also, if it was MR, why name your daughter Meesam? What of those spoken dialogs (not voice overs) in previous episodes about inflicting this saza on herself or her praise for MK or her longing? Merub was also shown as someone who never really forgave Wakas and Anila for that one time they did not open their door, despite their repeated attempts at reconciliation or their support for her later. Then how can she forgive MK?

Murtasim's action/reaction

MK cried and knelt on his knees for `maafi'. It wasn't once. He said it multiple times that he is sorry and to forgive him. He was begging Merub to sit next to him to talk. He said he has changed - he does not get angry nor does he have the `zid' and `akad' anymore, and that he is willing to do anything Merub wants him to if only she does not leave him.

For MR: These are the kind of things one would say or do if they have guilt, shame, if they feel they have committed a serious offense. For Merub ran off after consensual sex, for what mistake he wants forgiveness. What sin is he atoning for?

Against MR:

Either MK is so broken - like children in dysfunctional homes who feel that if they are on their best behavior, their parents will not divorce - that he would do anything for Merub not to leave him. Or they are insinuating he has reached the seventh stage of ishk where he has completely annihilated his self, his ego and only being with Merub matters. This seventh stage of ishk is also called maut (Death). In the final stage of love, the self identity is completely lost. Here the existence of lover depends on the existence of beloved. There is no turnaround. The final end of a love story either from both the lover or the boy as he believe he can’t exist without her.

Originally posted by: Sera-high123

Colu, kaha ho??🤗🤗

Hai Taubba khatm ho gayi?!? I have been traveling a lot on work so very little time to chit chat on IF. But I agree I hope friendships made here are more meaningful than the stupid show.
see you soon Sera … in an airport I saw that Sony show ka trailer on the TV. And I was like god we should have a Toxic Trolling ka DT on the show ka forum! 🤪🤪🤪🤪

my thoughts exactly - and i'm a very liberal, equal rights for women kind of a gal.

Originally posted by: SheThought

Yeah, they really should have Meerab reciprocate to him for something, anything!

I really didn't see the need for Murtasim to say those dialogues that.. after you left I realized, tum mera sab kuch ho, tum se sab hai, Tere Bin main kuch nahin, kuch bhi nahini!

Like what's new!? She and us have heard this 100 times already since they got married and she has never believed him even when he cried buckets and poured his heart out telling her mujhe sambhal lena.

So... did she believe him this time?

Chalo, we assume this time she did, but then, how Meerab felt without him / Tere Bin?

He has stopped doing zidd? hunh... what zidd, when did he do zidd?

Wasn't it Meerab who was always ziddi/stubborn and he had to tiptoe around her?!

He said he would become however she wants him to be, do whatever she wants him to do, he would change himself as per her commands... hasn't he been changing ever since they got married, hasn't he gone out of his way to please her, however reluctantly, hasn't he done things out of his comfort zone and beliefs just so that she remains happy even while there was zero appreciation from her side!

He still has to change? How? What for?

And she doesn't need to?

Marriage was forced on both of them, but he chose to give his all to make this relationship work while she being unhappy with the marriage neither left him nor gave him even basic respect as a fellow human, mistreated him every step of the way. They both were at fault for not having any trust on each other but it was her decision to leave and hide from him and the pregnancy and his kid from him...

He is the only one who has been saying sorry to her since the beginning, she, not once, has properly apologized to him even for things she was clearly at fault!

Today too, she was put on a pedestal while he apologized, that too on his knees with folded hands begging for forgiveness - what exactly was he apologizing for though????

Ok.. but then why did she not have to say sorry? She had nothing to apologize to him for?

Why this one sidedness?

This one partner bending over backwards to keep the relationship going while the other one dictates the rules may make one section of the society happy, especially since its the female being the boss lady and husband is a meek subordinate but that's now how a relationship works or lasts. Balance is the key to every relationship, romantic or otherwise.

Here, Meerab and Murtasim were hardly equal partners, unfortunately he still remained her puppet.

@underlined

Seriously, this whole Haya-Murtasim fiasco is so bizarre, I cannot make any head or tail of it. So all the dialogues related to and around it didn't make sense to me either.

Haya was not even that important in MM lovestory, cause without her also they had so many issues of their own to resolve so why suddenly so much focus was given to her is beyond me.

The whole question-answer of the day Meerab left was so poorly done and Murtasim looked like a fool when he told Haya that he believed her that day (and volunteered to marry her) but she needed to tell the truth today.

Also, no idea why they had a close up of her expressionless face for nearly 2 minutes today to conclude her lovestory. That precious time could have been given to Waqas-Meerab closure, but oh well!

Both Wahaj and Yumna were par excellence today!!

Yumna's expressions when Haya was accusing her and Murtasim was silent were the best!

Wahaj's eyes, softness of his voice, his interaction with Meesam, his body language everything... superlative! I cried in a few scenes, without even realizing!

Sorry the post became so long, didn't realize it!

OMG, so the rumors of Sn2 is true 🤣

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with same actors
I saw fans fighting like toddlers. Still they bringing 🤬

Just hated meerab standing there like it’s normal to go gayab for years...!!!

You could have shown 2 months gap n mesan was not needed ...2 years n such normalcy is too much

They’re story will be concluded in season two.

Originally posted by: Kiwicy

For the first time I saw wahaj. Otherwise I was always ke murtasim is different entity. But today episode it was all wahaj for me. In every scene. Meesam ko hug wala. Kissing meesu. Memu scenes everything was only wahaj for me. Not murtasim.

I agree. Like I was somehow able to see wahaj-the dad. He is good actor otherwise too, but the meesu scenes were as if he was entertaining his own daughter.

Originally posted by: Snowflakes_04

Forum kmk where are you 😭