TERE BIN - Yumna Zaidi - Wahaj Ali DT# 141 - Page 11

Originally posted by: Kiwicy

Yes. Happy ending hogi. But not for all. Everything will be left like that. So IF season 2 is there they can have some material to work on.

I'm also hopeful for the khet scene and some more menu scenes to be in the last ep along with haya's character end.

Even if they do plan on S2 then it will take time. And NM doesn't have the script ready...she also said S2 mein likhu kya?

S2 looks highly unlikely unless they come back with the same cast but different plot, i.e., something like Kutumb and KMH.

Rohail's character Dubai closure wasn't a voiceover - OG script

MZ -> loose end

Originally posted by: Kiwicy

We can't just say the actors asked and they just changed those scenes. That kaddu uncle iv he was so hell bent on that I don't change things if an actor us asking for it.

So if murtasim as a character is being changed on insistence of actor then there definitely would be backup plan. Without that how can they just remove problematic things and not understand how it will affect the whole scene.

And I don't think wahaj or anyone has that much power to just remove things without producers or directors approval. They will even ask writer coz at that end of the day she will be the one to write different scenarios. This is a collective effort. Every scene, every dialogue changes has to go through a lot.

So my question if they knew all this then how can they change murtasim's character in starting episodes. They must be known something na. Or they didn't know how the pre climax and climax are written and will be written. So they went euth flow in the initial phase but nm wanted to write what she wanted. Kuch toh problem hui hain..

Thys us exactly like season 8 of GOT. Some said directors got another offer so they cared less about the last season. The writing material from R.R.martin ended so directors didn't know what to do with the series. They just wanted to wrap up the show and move on to their new show.

Now TB too is in same situation. If we see last 10 episodes there isn't much story there. Only 5 scenes and fb's for every episode. And actors can only change their own scripts or if duo are playing they will change it together. As Bushra mam said how will I know if there was a problem with a scene where I'm not involved. So it all lies upon the heads. Director, writer, creatives, producer.

Originally posted by: nightingale1234

But when it comes to Murtasim, writer has mentioned she had written an outright feudal lord.The actor shouldn't have meddled with the character to the extent that people started considering him as god.. I mean they could retain the basic character trait of the rough and tough feudal lord even without those slap scenes..But instead, murtasim was righteous,kind,soft and there wasn't any grey shade to his character till episode 25-30 episodes .. That's the reason this MR, marrying haya etc had huge uproar as it's completely opposite to his initial characterization..

There is a difference between being a rough and tough feudal lord and being a rapi"st. The MR storyline was going to cause an uproar regardless of what was shown before bec its a hugely popular show, a love story specifically. MR has no place in a love story, maybe you could weave it in a family drama but not a love story.

And I'm not sure if without the changes they made, would the show have become so popular in the first place. Bec the draw of the show became the couple chemistry and murtasim. Imagine murtasim slapping meerab every second episode as originally conceived. Who would be rooting for this couple? Would it have got the insane fanlove?

And there were plenty of shades of Grey to murtasim before. Its just that meerab's character was so frustrating that he looked logical by default. 😆par problems toh usmein bhi thi.

I think someone wrote yesterday that the better story would have been to show the separation after the maryiam track. That made sense. Meerab could have disappeared after that. This mr/cs and stupid wajood ki talaash was not needed.

The problem is not what was altered before but what they didn't alter afterwards.

Originally posted by: Neha_J

Idk why everyone is talking about WA changing MKs character?

Because Hassan said there were multiple slaps scenes? But then NM also said there was only one slap scene.

NM is sick in the head but she also said MK is a good boy, she wanted girls to fantasize about him. YZ said MK has no grey -> not becauae WA changed the ckt but because it was written in such a way.

after all the drama, I don’t think anyone would fantasise murtasam.

Idk wtf nooran was thinking but how can she ruin a character like that?

husband duty:

1. look after your wife & her need.

Murtasam kinda failed big time for favouring Haya. A female heart is filled with doubt and murtasam did just that. His one action puts water over all his good action.

I know there is no justification on murtasam chracter, but seriously what a potential they had

Originally posted by: Moonks

NM in her IV said she only wrote one slap and that too because she thought it was important to calm Mee and there was no MR, Maliha directly asked Kaddu that did they change the story and he said we did not and in last one year I posted only one tweet that don’t jump to the conclusion and wait for the end, in last episode everything would be clear but they did not and started judging it without watching it and now no matter what these so called reviewer say that they has inside info that it was MR because producer has refused that it was the case when he is saying they will clear everything in the last episode then no other words matter, and about changing script when the writer is saying that there was only one slap by Mu then how come those reviewers has inside info that WA altered it??

Right. I don't know how we can even think wahaj has the power to remove all problematic things as said by Amna and Hasan without any approval needed by co actors, writer, director and producers. Yeah he may add some more dialogues or some nuances on how to make it a better scene. That's it.

I remember the girl playing nilo in MPHT saying the same. The scene was father funeral and she was crying and telling off maheer. When scene ended wahaj said if you have strength and are willing to do, we can add some things and do the scene again..even director said yeah let's add this too, more dialogues and nuances from his side. So end was directors. No actors have any say there.

Hasan ko toh bas yaheen prove karna hai MR tha. However it may be. Calling audiences fools or not using brains. Kuch bhi hojaye he must be right about MR thing. Even the producer is saying that's not the case he won't listen. 🤷🤷

I have only heard from Amna and Hasan that wahaj changed many things. Do we have some other person who is saying this.

Originally posted by: nightingale1234

I kinda agree with this . The disconnect with the storyline is mainly due to the drastic deviation from initial characterisation..

Merrab was always supposed to be arrogant, stubborn and blunt. That's how it has been maintained throughout.. Though I feel they could add depth to her characterization by giving her good dialogues and monologues..But, even then , i don't see so much deviation in Meerub's character arc..

But when it comes to Murtasim, writer has mentioned she had written an outright feudal lord.The actor shouldn't have meddled with the character to the extent that people started considering him as god.. I mean they could retain the basic character trait of the rough and tough feudal lord even without those slap scenes..But instead, murtasim was righteous,kind,soft and there wasn't any grey shade to his character till episode 25-30 episodes .. That's the reason this MR, marrying haya etc had huge uproar as it's completely opposite to his initial characterization..

If MR was indeed part of their script they shouldn't have made such drastic changes to murtasim character and same goes to meerab. They should have given proper explanation for her being so stubborn and arrogant..

If you ask me writer had different perception of the characters,actors understood the characters in different manner and director took it in an entirely different direction😆 ..This is the reason TB faltered so badly..

Originally posted by: Moonks

NM in her IV said she only wrote one slap and that too because she thought it was important to calm Mee and there was no MR, Maliha directly asked Kaddu that did they change the story and he said we did not and in last one year I posted only one tweet that don’t jump to the conclusion and wait for the end, in last episode everything would be clear but they did not and started judging it without watching it and now no matter what these so called reviewer say that they has inside info that it was MR because producer has refused that it was the case when he is saying they will clear everything in the last episode then no other words matter, and about changing script when the writer is saying that there was only one slap by Mu then how come those reviewers has inside info that WA altered it??

I chose to believe writer and producer here. Bcz changing script after it was filmed is not easy. Yes, may be they wouldn't have cleared immediately after consummation that it was consensual and would have kept the suspense if there's was no uproar. Rahi baat reviewers ki, I don't believe them. Hassan ki toh bas baatein hoti hai. Koi insider info nahi Hoti. Bcz they were so sure it was MR, they are trying to justify that. They call audience delusional but I feel they are delusional.

Dekho I feel their plan was to keep a suspense, so aftermath shoot b waise hi hota hai where both are distraught. Bcz Indian/Hollywood show toh hai nai where they film consummation scene and people on set would know that it's consensual. Last episode me final twist hoga that it's not. Obviously very few will know about it on set.

I know, I might also be wrong but...😛

Originally posted by: Kiwicy

Right. I don't know how we can even think wahaj has the power to remove all problematic things as said by Amna and Hasan without any approval needed by co actors, writer, director and producers. Yeah he may add some more dialogues or some nuances on how to make it a better scene. That's it.

I remember the girl playing nilo in MPHT saying the same. The scene was father funeral and she was crying and telling off maheer. When scene ended wahaj said if you have strength and are willing to do, we can add some things and do the scene again..even director said yeah let's add this too, more dialogues and nuances from his side. So end was directors. No actors have any say there.

Hasan ko toh bas yaheen prove karna hai MR tha. However it may be. Calling audiences fools or not using brains. Kuch bhi hojaye he must be right about MR thing. Even the producer is saying that's not the case he won't listen. 🤷🤷

I have only heard from Amna and Hasan that wahaj changed many things. Do we have some other person who is saying this.

hASSan and Amna, and the 3 reviewers. Idk who said it first...I think the 3 reviewers are the ones who did. But that's the thing, WA doesn't have the power to alter a character...yes, detailing and nuances he must have but def not altered the character.

Originally posted by: Kiwicy

Right. I don't know how we can even think wahaj has the power to remove all problematic things as said by Amna and Hasan without any approval needed by co actors, writer, director and producers. Yeah he may add some more dialogues or some nuances on how to make it a better scene. That's it.

I remember the girl playing nilo in MPHT saying the same. The scene was father funeral and she was crying and telling off maheer. When scene ended wahaj said if you have strength and are willing to do, we can add some things and do the scene again..even director said yeah let's add this too, more dialogues and nuances from his side. So end was directors. No actors have any say there.

Hasan ko toh bas yaheen prove karna hai MR tha. However it may be. Calling audiences fools or not using brains. Kuch bhi hojaye he must be right about MR thing. Even the producer is saying that's not the case he won't listen. 🤷🤷

I have only heard from Amna and Hasan that wahaj changed many things. Do we have some other person who is saying this.

@bold you spoke what I wanted to behen. Damn true

Also, I don't think anyone else has said apart from hasan and amna that Wahaj made such drastic changes. Yes, people do say that he adds nuances and all but how can he change the whole character arc

Originally posted by: arfanazneen

I chose to believe writer and producer here. Bcz changing script after it was filmed is not easy. Yes, may be they wouldn't have cleared immediately after consummation that it was consensual and would have kept the suspense if there's was no uproar. Rahi baat reviewers ki, I don't believe them. Hassan ki toh bas baatein hoti hai. Koi insider info nahi Hoti. Bcz they were so sure it was MR, they are trying to justify that. They call audience delusional but I feel they are delusional.

Dekho I feel their plan was to keep a suspense, so aftermath shoot b waise hi hota hai where both are distraught. Bcz Indian/Hollywood show toh hai nai where they film consummation scene and people on set would know that it's consensual. Last episode me final twist hoga that it's not. Obviously very few will know about it on set.

I know, I might also be wrong but...😛