Ye dukh khatam kahe nahi hota be - Page 6

In England last year, 30 hindu boys beat up 1 Muslim lad.

In 20 years hopefully someone will make a movie regarding that. Let's discuss that then too.

These film makers keep showing the past history which is one sided. Believe it or not Natkhat.. there are two sides to a coin and similarly to a story. Each country tries to make their side a victim.

People like you buy into it. Why the regression? Why are you walking backwards. Its time to evolve and unite. You are part of the new generation.. then why are people living in hate and past hate.

Islam and all religions teach us to be Good humans. Have humanity. Don't you want that? Your posts all week have been negative and instigating.

Be the man of today, forget the past.. reject these films. Think how we can make a better start from today to create harmony and a positive future.

Stop spreading the hate bro.

Gham, what gham?... this topic excites you to create content.

You rem, Covid time Hindus were helping Muslims, and vice versa to Bury and burn dead bodies. Why no one talks about that. Why no movie showing that.

I can promise you, I'm a Muslim, and you are a hindu. If you were in trouble and I was there..I will not look at your race. You are my brother in humanity... I'd come in to help you. Like wise I'm sure you will too.

Seriously it's down to the more educated and new generation of people to do better. Promote that.

I'm not against movies showing what's happening, the movie the profile was a perfect example. Awareness is good... but as long as it's with the right intent.

I hope I've answered your topic question.. yeh gham thab khatam hoga, when ppl unite... and everyone moves to a positive change. Othervise no one will get out of the rip of hatred.

Originally posted by: carisma2

In England last year, 30 hindu boys beat up 1 Muslim lad.

In 20 years hopefully someone will make a movie regarding that. Let's discuss that then too.

These film makers keep showing the past history which is one sided. Believe it or not Natkhat.. there are two sides to a coin and similarly to a story. Each country tries to make their side a victim.

People like you buy into it. Why the regression? Why are you walking backwards. Its time to evolve and unite. You are part of the new generation.. then why are people living in hate and past hate.

Islam and all religions teach us to be Good humans. Have humanity. Don't you want that? Your posts all week have been negative and instigating.

Be the man of today, forget the past.. reject these films. Think how we can make a better start from today to create harmony and a positive future.

Stop spreading the hate bro.

Gham, what gham?... this topic excites you to create content.

You rem, Covid time Hindus were helping Muslims, and vice versa to Bury and burn dead bodies. Why no one talks about that. Why no movie showing that.

I can promise you, I'm a Muslim, and you are a hindu. If you were in trouble and I was there..I will not look at your race. You are my brother in humanity... I'd come in to help you. Like wise I'm sure you will too.

Seriously it's down to the more educated and new generation of people to do better. Promote that.

I'm not against movies showing what's happening, the movie the profile was a perfect example. Awareness is good... but as long as it's with the right intent.

For every one incident u write about i can write 100 in return despite them being in minority here.

I'm not standing up against anyone; I'm standing up for myself and my community. You have problem with that too?

Anyways i don't want to have a debate in this thread. If you want a debate or discussion please open another thread and I'll be more than happy to respond to your your questions, queries or assumption there.

Originally posted by: atominis

I am happy to see films on real issues.

I wish to see films on partition, medieval history, without filters or customary goody two shoes characters...

I would like to see films on plight of minorities in neighbouring nations too and how they migrate to India or seek asylum abroad.

And I would love to see films on conversions, using names of other faiths, concealing identity, attacking liberals and moderates within own community, rioting to ban Satanic Verses, rioting to stop Taslima Nasreen from speaking t events here, Shah Bano etc.

And some little known nuggets like some community joining pogroms against Sikhs in 1984 and chanting slogans like 'Hindu Muslim bhai bhai yeh Sikh qaum kahan se aayi' and inciting Hindus to kill Sikhs, and later Salman Khurshid writing how they felt satisfaction in 1984 and felt Hindus and Sikhs were paying for their sins in 1947.

I'd like nice films on suppression of FoE and a community rioting when Gadar and Bombay released and attacking theatres and threatening Mani Ratnam and Anil Sharma.

I want to see films on destruction of Somnath, Golden Temple (Abdali attacked it).

I would like to see films on ill treatment of Pasmanda Muslims and their sufferings.

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Originally posted by: NatkhatPyare

For every one incident u write about i can write 100 in return despite them being in minority here.

I'm not standing up against anyone; I'm standing up for myself and my community. You have problem with that too?

Anyways i don't want to have a debate in this thread. If you want a debate or discussion please open another thread and I'll be more than happy to respond to your your questions, queries or assumption there.

No you're safe with me. I don't like back and fourth debates. I like to say my piece and then I'm out. But a debate can be held in this thread too if it's regarding the same issue and clearly I'm on track to try and answer your question. So as you always do... start something.. and then ppl reply and you back out saying I don't want to talk about it, or aaj kal ke educated people to samjana partha hai. I don't buy into these avoidance tricks. Ever. But like I said you are safe with me... I'm not going to argue or debate with you.

I've said my piece, if you take anything I said on board then great and if not.. it if what it is. I'm not here to make you conform to how I think or my principles. So I'll leave you in peace.

I'm certain you can write about 1000 more incidents than me. You have dedicated a lot of time on these matters.

Pls stand up for your community. No one is stopping you. But why only one community? Use your research to stand up for other communities too. That's my view.

Originally posted by: NatkhatPyare

For every one incident u write about i can write 100 in return despite them being in minority here.

I'm not standing up against anyone; I'm standing up for myself and my community. You have problem with that too?

Anyways i don't want to have a debate in this thread. If you want a debate or discussion please open another thread and I'll be more than happy to respond to your your questions, queries or assumption there.

No you're safe with me. I don't like back and fourth debates. I like to say my piece and then I'm out. But a debate can be held in this thread too if it's regarding the same issue and clearly I'm on track to try and answer your question. So as you always do... start something.. and then ppl reply and you back out saying I don't want to talk about it, or aaj kal ke educated people to samjana partha hai. I don't buy into this tricks. Ever. But like I said you are safe with me... I'm not going to argue or debate with you.

I've said my piece, if you take anything I said on board then great and if not.. it if what it is. I'm not here to make you confirm to how I think or my principles. So I'll leave you in peace.

I'm certain you can write about 1000 more incidents than me. You have dedicated a lot of time on these matters.

Pls stand up for your community. No one is stopping you. But why only one community? Use research to stand up for other communities too. That's my view.

Originally posted by: NatkhatPyare

For every one incident u write about i can write 100 in return despite them being in minority here.

I'm not standing up against anyone; I'm standing up for myself and my community. You have problem with that too?

Anyways i don't want to have a debate in this thread. If you want a debate or discussion please open another thread and I'll be more than happy to respond to your your questions, queries or assumption there.

I don't understand why some people here take offense and use isolated incidents to counter the argument. The purpose of these movies like Kashmir Files, Kerala story and Ajmer 92 is to highlight a pattern that exists among certain members of a particular community who harbor evil intentions.. this portrayal does not encompass the entire community, but rather sheds light on a specific subset. The intention behind such movies is to create awareness so that people don't become complacent or lower their guard. It serves as a reminder to remain cautious and vigilant.

Originally posted by: carisma2

No you're safe with me. I don't like back and fourth debates. I like to say my piece and then I'm out. But a debate can be held in this thread too if it's regarding the same issue and clearly I'm on track to try and answer your question. So as you always do... start something.. and then ppl reply and you back out saying I don't want to talk about it, or aaj kal ke educated people to samjana partha hai. I don't buy into these avoidance tricks. Ever. But like I said you are safe with me... I'm not going to argue or debate with you.

I've said my piece, if you take anything I said on board then great and if not.. it if what it is. I'm not here to make you conform to how I think or my principles. So I'll leave you in peace.

I'm certain you can write about 1000 more incidents than me. You have dedicated a lot of time on these matters.

Pls stand up for your community. No one is stopping you. But why only one community? Use research to stand up for other communities too. That's my view.

I reiterate - I don't want a debate here because then it will be thrown into debate mansion. The purpose of this thread is to make people aware. That purpose will be defeated if it's thrown in Debate mansion.

There are many people to stand up for other communities but very few for mine hence i need to restore the balance by selectively standing up for mine. Sabka theka nahi liya maine. 😊

That's my view.

Originally posted by: Zeal17

I don't understand why some people here take offense and use isolated incidents to counter the argument. The purpose of these movies like Kashmir Files, Kerala story and Ajmer 92 is to highlight a pattern that exists among certain members of a particular community who harbor evil intentions.. this portrayal does not encompass the entire community, but rather sheds light on a specific subset. The intention behind such movies is to create awareness so that people don't become complacent or lower their guard. It serves as a reminder to remain cautious and vigilant.

At Bold. I totally catch you drift Zeal.

Zeal KF caused issues ... After it was released.

I do believe we need to be aware. I don't disregard that. I agree with you 100 percent.

But it doesn't stop there.. it doesn't stop at being cautious and vigilant.

A lot of the audiences want to start feuds. That's when it becomes a problem. Are the audiences able to handle it?

Because of a minority grp who cause these issues, the wider community suffers as a result.

Rape, trafficking, killings need to be addressed no doubt.

And I'm not referring to just one post. Generally everywhere NP says many things which can be seen as instigating.. including questioning of a religious transcript in CC. I couldve replied and explained there... but I thought to leave him to it. That then no longer applies to a subset only.

There are movies showing the history of what happened to the coloured people back in the day. Unfortunately the black community is still compromised. Of course we need to know all this.

I just wanted to address this, so you know which angle I'm coming from. I think I covered it all. I don't want NPs thread to go to debate mansion.

Originally posted by: NatkhatPyare

I reiterate - I don't want a debate here because then it will be thrown into debate mansion. The purpose of this thread is to make people aware. That purpose will be defeated if it's thrown in Debate mansion.

There are many people to stand up for other communities but very few for mine hence i need to restore the balance by selectively standing up for mine. Sabka theka nahi liya maine. 😊

That's my view.

I think u are over fearing about this going to debate mansion. But I won't say anything further on the matter to give you peace of mind.

Last line...

That's where the problem lies.. not many standing up for your community... because maybe they share same principle as yours. That's what I was explaining to you in the first place. We should all be there for one another.

Oh Natkhat 🤦‍♀️ lol.

Originally posted by: carisma2

I think u are over fearing about this going to debate mansion. But I won't say anything further on the matter to give you peace of mind.

Last line...

That's where the problem lies.. not many standing up for your community... because maybe they share same principle as yours. That's what I was explaining to you in the first place. We should all be there for one another.

Oh Natkhat 🤦‍♀️ lol.

I WILL be there when the innocent and underrepresented need my help or support (of any community) rest assured of that.

Till then i don't want to join the crowd supporting the already well supported (more so than required i would say) just to be politically correct or do some monkey balancing.

P.s. - feel free to say anything on this matter or on that religious script in cc u were talking about... but in another thread please. I will be happy to join the discussion there with you. I won't run away, i assure you.

And yes i have always claimed that i do instigating or Aag lagoing.. That's my nature. Can't help it whether u love it or hate it or ignore it.