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Posted: 2 years ago
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Bold: absolutely. She is an individual with autonomy. Marriage is where both parties openly accept each other as responsibility in partnership in front of everyone. So that it's not ambiguous which can often lead to this like casting couch or favor in jobs or any unfair advantage. Everyone knows who is with who. It sets the needed boundaries for all.

But that is only the first part. Even with marriage comes consent as the other person is a being. You don't own them. They have a right to sustainance, shelter and agency that's their human right. Who is a husband to threaten over that, give it or take it away?

After the promo the inhumane people especially females have come out in hordes to rear their ugly heads under the pretense of religion using words of perverted preachers and illogical thinking. They talk about God but don't use the brain they have by design.

They're like murtasim is rich handsome and loving this is okay. It's her husband. Then what about people forced to marry others against their will. Or child brides? That's marriage too. Or forcefully marrying a mentally incapacitated person. These things are rampant in south Asia.

Will they then say the above heinous things are okay because it's a marriage.

I'm always heartbroken to see females be part of jahalat.

Sorry for the rant. 😞


Originally posted by: Gundamwing

What has gone wrong and What is the real Problem?

RANT COMING


- Meerab and Murtaims solo fans have ammunition to destroy this couple with impunity. They were never meant to be, they were always a toxic couple and everyone who rooted for them were delusional fools. TB fans didn't understand these characters for 46 episodes we were in some alternate dimension/space watching some other show because we are that bloody stupid. And don't quote me Murtasim janwar dialogues, his bark is worse than his bite.


- Anyone and Everyone who didn't like TB to begin with can crucify this show. They are now free to say this show was always about sex not love, it is Mills and Boon, it is fifty shades, it is trashy romance about a horny guy who just wanted to have sex with a woman. Consent what you talking about, never heard of it before in this show.


- This leads to the next problem man versus woman. That a woman is ultimately responsible for a man's sin, she makes him sin so she is the real sinner. Meerab has been withholding consent and she has every fouckkingg right to do so till the end of times. I don't fouckkkinggg care if she spit on his face or kicked him in the balls he can't rape her that is not how this works. But by pushing her actions to the extreme it has brought out the conservative religious zealots out of their hiding places that say that a husband must keep a wife in her place, if he doesn't then her nasty behaviour is the husband's fault, where is your manhood boy. This means a husband can use any means necessary to check her bad behaviour and he will be justified in doing so because she provoked him first.


- Meerab has no right to refuse sex to her legally wedded husband it is shohar's haq, if he wants it he can take it any time wants. This is according to Pak islamic laws that marital rape is not a crime (this is not me this is SM), so what is he does rape her what is everyone screaming about. Fans are overreacting he is her husband guys take a chill pill and enjoy the happy DDLJ ending.


- Anything can be redeemed in the name of love. All that matters is that Murtasim loves Meerab, so what if he committed one of the worst crimes that a man can do to a woman. Oh baby I am sorry now let me give you a jappi pappi hug, I am really really sorry. Besides you did so many things I forgave you why can't you not forgive me this one tiny mistake and what is really important is I love you oh sooooooo much.


- TB fans are outraged that the character of Murtasim is ruined more than about the issue of Marital rape. Please spare me the moral high ground, we don't want Murtasim ruined not because we love Murtasim but we actually take the crime of Marital rape SERIOUSLY. Martial Rape should should be addressed in a well made drama, written by someone with real credibility not this evil ekta kapoor wannabe Nooran. It should be shown with maturity, the story should be about MR, what are the horrific consequences, what is the punishment, is redemptions possible if so why, if not then what does a woman do. MR is not a punch line for a promo cut, it is geo/7sky that has made this crime into a joke by using what is a painful subject for so many women as a promotional gimmick to get TRPs.


- The 2 dramas I watched Muqaddar and Bashar Momin both had MRs. Was it addressed with any sensitivity nope, was it even considered a crime nope, was the guy redeemed yup, was the trauma of the women even properly acknowledged nope. What is the stats of MR being shown in Pak Drama, I don't know, but I bet it is high so this backlash isn't just about TB. This is about decades of Pak drama producers using MR as a plot point in their story lines without acknowledging its serious consequences. And by doing so they taint Pakistan, and since TB has extensive global popularity Pak culture, religion, laws everything is being judged, scrutinized, and debated around the world.


- This drama was promoted as romance not a societal cause drama. If Murtasim was capable of committing this crime, then we should have been forewarned, they should have made it perfectly clear from the start and the audience is mentally prepared to handle what is coming. But did they do that no they didn't. They falsely promoted their characters so should we not be upset about this. You can't make the hero rape the heroine on the 47 episode and end the show in a few episodes. By doing so this is just all the previous problems put together, that means you didn't take MR seriously at all, why should he be redeemed because he loves her so all is forgiven, why did he do this oh because she behaved badly so she is to blame, oh right he was the husband it was never a crime to begin with.

Edited by Alizba63 - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: Mari_a

Why? Is there any reason?

Hira will come live to reduce our stress, her words😆

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: pressu

Hello🤗

What should I call you?

Anything you like. May be Cherry?

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Posted: 2 years ago
#44

Knowing nooran's sick mentality

What she wants to prove

Look how my ml didn't do anything despite the insane behaviour of his love, he has all the reasons to do it, but he didn't.

They r making people think worst of him, in the episode he won't do it. So everyone will be like I know my ml god can never do it.

She & makers created a situation where audience will "appreciate" ml for not raping his wife.

Is this how they gonna glorify ml

What a pity situation

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gundamwing

What has gone wrong and What is the real Problem?

RANT COMING


- Meerab and Murtaims solo fans have ammunition to destroy this couple with impunity. They were never meant to be, they were always a toxic couple and everyone who rooted for them were delusional fools. TB fans didn't understand these characters for 46 episodes we were in some alternate dimension/space watching some other show because we are that bloody stupid. And don't quote me Murtasim janwar dialogues, his bark is worse than his bite.


- Anyone and Everyone who didn't like TB to begin with can crucify this show. They are now free to say this show was always about sex not love, it is Mills and Boon, it is fifty shades, it is trashy romance about a horny guy who just wanted to have sex with a woman. Consent what you talking about, never heard of it before in this show.


- This leads to the next problem man versus woman. That a woman is ultimately responsible for a man's sin, she makes him sin so she is the real sinner. Meerab has been withholding consent and she has every fouckkingg right to do so till the end of times. I don't fouckkkinggg care if she spit on his face or kicked him in the balls he can't rape her that is not how this works. But by pushing her actions to the extreme it has brought out the conservative religious zealots out of their hiding places that say that a husband must keep a wife in her place, if he doesn't then her nasty behaviour is the husband's fault, where is your manhood boy. This means a husband can use any means necessary to check her bad behaviour and he will be justified in doing so because she provoked him first.


- Meerab has no right to refuse sex to her legally wedded husband it is shohar's haq, if he wants it he can take it any time wants. This is according to Pak islamic laws that marital rape is not a crime (this is not me this is SM), so what is he does rape her what is everyone screaming about. Fans are overreacting he is her husband guys take a chill pill and enjoy the happy DDLJ ending.


- Anything can be redeemed in the name of love. All that matters is that Murtasim loves Meerab, so what if he committed one of the worst crimes that a man can do to a woman. Oh baby I am sorry now let me give you a jappi pappi hug, I am really really sorry. Besides you did so many things I forgave you why can't you not forgive me this one tiny mistake and what is really important is I love you oh sooooooo much.


- TB fans are outraged that the character of Murtasim is ruined more than about the issue of Marital rape. Please spare me the moral high ground, we don't want Murtasim ruined not because we love Murtasim but we actually take the crime of Marital rape SERIOUSLY. Martial Rape should should be addressed in a well made drama, written by someone with real credibility not this evil ekta kapoor wannabe Nooran. It should be shown with maturity, the story should be about MR, what are the horrific consequences, what is the punishment, is redemptions possible if so why, if not then what does a woman do. MR is not a punch line for a promo cut, it is geo/7sky that has made this crime into a joke by using what is a painful subject for so many women as a promotional gimmick to get TRPs.


- The 2 dramas I watched Muqaddar and Bashar Momin both had MRs. Was it addressed with any sensitivity nope, was it even considered a crime nope, was the guy redeemed yup, was the trauma of the women even properly acknowledged nope. What is the stats of MR being shown in Pak Drama, I don't know, but I bet it is high so this backlash isn't just about TB. This is about decades of Pak drama producers using MR as a plot point in their story lines without acknowledging its serious consequences. And by doing so they taint Pakistan, and since TB has extensive global popularity Pak culture, religion, laws everything is being judged, scrutinized, and debated around the world.


- This drama was promoted as romance not a societal cause drama. If Murtasim was capable of committing this crime, then we should have been forewarned, they should have made it perfectly clear from the start and the audience is mentally prepared to handle what is coming. But did they do that no they didn't. They falsely promoted their characters so should we not be upset about this. You can't make the hero rape the heroine on the 47 episode and end the show in a few episodes. By doing so this is just all the previous problems put together, that means you didn't take MR seriously at all, why should he be redeemed because he loves her so all is forgiven, why did he do this oh because she behaved badly so she is to blame, oh right he was the husband it was never a crime to begin with.

good to see you back!

Just ranting back.. like a broken record

Were we fools or were we fooled? Except for the slap, constantly ignoring Haya and the problematic jump scene, Murtasim has been shown as a great ML. The whole premise is CONSENT. The mighty contract!!! How were we to expect this was going to happen? :( Nobody had the slightest idea it’d go this way. (I still don’t believe it’ll happen but it’s a lost cause).

EVEN when it doesn’t go this way, they have ruined the image of TB by cashing in on a such a sensitive topic in an highly insensitive way UNNECESSARILY without a trigger warning - the hallmark of Geo channel as you mentioned the other shows - and now TB and people associated with it (some rightly so like the writer) is coming across cheap, uncouth jahils.

Yumna and Wahaj will bear brunt of it. I fear that even if everything ends up being okay, this situation has put a stain on their career especially Wahaj’s as Murtasim brought him to limelight.

Now TB won’t be remembered as a great romance as we all saw it to be .. but a trashy clickbaity show written by a uncouth rape-justifier.

Yes, we should be more worried about the fact that they are using MR as a clickbait but it does my break my heart to see TB , loved by millions, come to its downfall by its own pathetic, stupid team.

Since December, I was obsessed with it. It was joyous to see it trend everywhere, now it’s hurtful and shameful to see.

Still hopeful, still have faith, but there’s no joy.

Edited by CranberryQueen - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: Alizba63

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Bold: absolutely. She is an individual with autonomy. Marriage is where both parties openly accept each other as responsibility in partnership in front of everyone. So that it's not ambiguous which can often lead to this like casting couch or favor in jobs or any unfair advantage. Everyone knows who is with who. It sets the needed boundaries for all.

But that is only the first part. Even with marriage comes consent as the other person is a being. You don't own them. They have a right to sustainance, shelter and agency that's their human right. Who is a husband to threaten over that, give it or take it away?

After the promo the inhumane people especially females have come out in hordes to rear their ugly heads under the pretense of religion using words of perverted preachers and illogical thinking. They talk about God but don't use the brain they have by design.

They're like murtasim is rich handsome and loving this is okay. It's her husband. Then what about people forced to marry others against their will. Or child brides? That's marriage too. Or forcefully marrying a mentally incapacitated person. These things are rampant in south Asia.

Will they then say the above heinous things are okay because it's a marriage.

I'm always heartbroken to see females be part of jahalat.

Sorry for the rant. 😞


I strongly believe that their reaction won’t be any different that’s how they were trained to accept all the atrocities, in the name of glorification that only a women has the power to bear all and still shine we abused them, this glorification of women’s is the tool of their oppression
Edited by Moonks - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
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. That’s what someone wrote here .
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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Moonks

And for once suppose that happened and we know the end game ki woh wapas jaayegi toh kya Meerub bhi last 46 episodes se hume paagal bana rahi thi? Jis bandi ko pyaar dekh kar pyaar nahi use R ke baad pyaar ho gaya?? Koi sense hai iss baat ki? Jis insaan ne forced marriage nahi accept ki woh forced s** accept karegi? NM ke nashe ka naam kya hai jo duniya bhula de hum bhi karenge iss gham mein🤪

Exactly. Meerab despite her flaws had this one quality that she won't accept anything which was forced upon her. She is owner of her wish. She also doesn't want others to face anything against their wish.

Such girl will accept her assaulter. It's like destroying core characteristics of both MK & M that we r seeing for last 46 episodes.

If MR happens there is nothing to root for.

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Originally posted by: Moonks

Hira will come live to reduce our stress, her words😆

She is so kind.
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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

Knowing nooran's sick mentality

What she wants to prove

Look how my ml didn't do anything despite the insane behaviour of his love, he has all the reasons to do it, but he didn't.

They r making people think worst of him, in the episode he won't do it. So everyone will be like I know my ml god can never do it.

She & makers created a situation where audience will "appreciate" ml for not raping his wife.

Is this how they gonna glorify him

What a pity situation

now that you have put this into words I seriously wants to smack her, she is a disgusting person🤢

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