TERE BIN-Yumna Zaidi-Wahaj Ali DT # 94 "Bedard Bewafai" - Page 86

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Posted: 2 years ago

Hey, beautiful analysis, I felt the same, kudos to the actors for their nuanced acting👏

When meerab said kuch din ki sukoon it was hollow, because she was disappointed when murtasim didn't tell her his return date. IMO he deliberately didnt tell because he wanted to test the waters.

Agree the writing has gone down afterwards, probably due to the drag owing to the makers' desire to cash in on the popularity of TB.


Originally posted by: hypnotoad

Here was my comment, which I had posted in response to Gundam's post before.

In the script, Merub's motivation was one-note: Merub hates doing hisaab kitaab and she jumps on the excuse to escape more work MB wants to give her by going with MK to the gaon. Any other actor would have just acted it out as if there is only one character motivation - same as in the text.

But Yumna's expressions suggest that maybe Merub has another unspoken motivation for going to the gaon. When MK says his good bye, her expressions indicate that she is affected and it is dawning on her that she does not want him to be away from her for so many days. So she jumps up to say that I will go to the gaon too.

And that is what had us hooked to MeMu in those early episodes. The spoken vs unspoken. What MeMu say vs what they feel. Merub verbally tells him in an earlier scene in that episode she is glad he is going away but her expressions in this scene show us her (unspoken) feelings and they say otherwise.

It is how viewers like us charted their relationship progress. That fine, Merub is dheet so she won't admit her growing bond with MK but her expressions suggest that aag udhar bhi lag rahi hai.

I believe none of this arc, layering, nuance and depth was in the script EVER. That is why later episodes made us feel baffled and annoyed why Merub is being so inconsistent since our interpretation of Merub was based as much on what we saw MeMu DO not just SAY in earlier episodes. But, great acting can only take you so far if the script is so lacking and hollow. At least, they had a great run until E23 which is more than I can say for many PTV dramas.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Rsrockz

Obsessive love disorder(OLD) is where a person assumes their obsession to be love, in Haya case she thinks her obsession with murtasim is ❤️ and she thinks she's doing something for the greater good. In her mind she deserves everything given to Meerab. Their separation can clear her illusionary ☁️ s and will make her realise that murtasim never had any feelings for her. Haya realisation that she's wasting her life, time and energy in a wasteful pursuit will let her bin all her schemes and move on.

Haya Obsession could be from the fact that she's an orphan and never had anything in her life with full rights. MB treated her like daughter but Haya isn't the real daughter, she also had some jealousy for mariyum for this reason, remember she said ek theer dho nishaani. Her life was always at the mercy and kindness of others. Hence, by hook or crook, she wanted to become the owner of wealth and riches of khan family by marrying murtasim.

In her mind Haya has all the valid reasons to fight for her love, because meerasim never had a proper marital relationship, meerab's unwillingness to respect their marriage and indifference to murtasim is quite evident to her.

I feel that Haya has reached a point where it is almost impossible for her to leave Murtasim. Like people say she is delusional. Most probably Meerasim has a separation of 2 years. Are 2 years enough for Haya to come out of her delusion? I feel that in these 2 years she will try her best to make Murtasim love her(which is not possible). But after Meerab is brought back with Meesam by Murtasim then she might give up on Murtasim.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Mind is a strange device, IMHO mental illness is when the brain fails to apply variables and goes on automation mode with the script designed by the mind. In astrology planet notorious for automated response is ketu the mercenary, always on blind mission to achieve a given goal without any thinking or consideration. Hence planet ketu is strongly attached to understand mental health issues in astrology.

Haya's illness automates her response to people around her. So acc to her meerab is a thorn in her goal, her child will be something similar she's not attaching any human value to that.

Simply put Haya's obsession blinded her conscience and even her own emotions of kindness, love affection are numbed deliberately. Because they can cause her downfall and prevent her from reaching her goal.

Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

@bold She said she will kill meerab's kid when she thought meerab is pregnant with murtasim's child.

So what valid reason she has here to fight for her so called love?

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Heeba

Im curious. According to the meerab and murtasim we knw and we ADORE. What should their reaction to this scenario be?


Will meerab MU murtasim?

Will meerab let murtasim explain?

Will meerab scream and slap haya?

Will meerab call MB?

Will meerab simply give silent treatment?

Will meerab leave?
….


Will murtasim throw haya out?

Will murtasim run after meerab?

Will he try to explain?

I mean to me murtasim SHOULD question haya, then and there and kick her out of the room!!! Haya should feel is wrath!!

As for meerab, she is the most unpredictable.. i have a feeling she wont misunderstand him but she will make it clear that she is HIGHLY disappointed.


I hope they both TALK it out!!! They need to have a real conversation!!!

I dont knw what nooran has planned!!! I just dont want her to ruin them for us..

I think meerub will not misunderstand but she will give him a chance to explain. From the expression in the promo she doesnt look hurt like the gao scene, here she is angry. So I'm expecting that anger will be directed towards Haya.

Murtasim will try to explain himself.. but throwing haya out will not place till last episode..

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: WanderingWonder

Ok… what was your interpretation of Meerab changing her mind here and suddenly wanting to go to the Gaon. I wasn’t sure what to make of it. On the one hand MB had just finished telling her that there’s lots of hissab kitab for her to do if she stays back b/c she didn’t want to go with Murtasim. But then there was that intense eye lock and I dunno… it looked to me like she was affected? What do you think? Was it just to get away from MB’s work pile? Btw this scene and their looks were 🔥
https://twitter.com/blakexspastry/status/1657240081961484288?s=46&t=V2mT-DctogLM7xf_uELgzw


Reposted again for all those who wanted our interoperations of these scenes.


POSTED BY GUNDAMWING


This scene looks simple on paper but it is not, we get more emotion in just a few glances than in a full episode. It looks like Murtasim is talking to his mother but he has eyes for his Meerab only and is saying goodbye to her solely, even his mother knows this as she glances at her DIL first then at her son. The world disappears around them when MeMu are having a moment.

Meerab's head tilts towards him and her gaze is fixed on him, when Murtasim says 'goodbye' her soft blink realization hits her he is leaving her and she will have to be without him. She jumps up promptly to state 'take me with you', Murtasim is stunned, she clarifies her stance by saying 'I want to go too', yes much better that is the answer he was looking for. He has done this before tell me what I want to hear and I will take you with me. Meerab's soft smile after when he says 'come to the car' betrays her happiness, Murtasim's all knowing nod yesssss victory he got her to fold.

It is moments like this we see their simmering desire for each other, it is more intense that a simple I love you. Murtasim is much more aware of what they both feel for each other, not only does he understand his own feelings he also knows what she wants. Murtasim will make his grudge queen confess even if he has to drag her stubborn ass across the finish line kicking and screaming.

Now what she is really grudging about will be explained later on another rainy day.

MIL looks smug when Meerab say she wants to go too, MB is more aware of what is cooking between them than she lets on. MB called Meerab khaas and reminded her son Meerab is marrying him for him only.


POSTED BY HYPNOTOAD


Yes. THIS. I will not give Nooran even 0.1% credit - the credit goes entirely to how Yumna and Wahaj enacted their roles.

About the scene in the tweet:

In the script, Merub's motivation was one-note: Merub hates doing hisaab kitaab and she jumps on the excuse to escape more work MB wants to give her by going with MK to the gaon. Any other actor would have just acted it out as if there is only one character motivation - same as in the text.

But Yumna's expressions suggest that maybe Merub has another unspoken motivation for going to the gaon. When MK says his good bye, it dawns on her that she does not like the idea of being apart from him for so many days and jumps up to say that I will go to the gaon too.

And that is what had us hooked in those episodes. The spoken vs unspoken. What MeMu say vs what they feel. Merub verbally tells him in an earlier scene in that episode she is glad he is going away but her expressions in this scene show us her (unspoken) feelings and they say otherwise.

It is how viewers like us charted their relationship progress. That fine, Merub is dheet so she won't admit her growing bond with MK but her expressions suggest that aag udhar bhi lag rahi hai.

I believe none of this arc, layering, nuance and depth was in the script EVER. That is why later episodes made us feel baffled and annoyed why Merub is being so inconsistent since our interpretation of Merub was based as much on what we saw MeMu DO not just SAY in earlier episodes. But, great acting can only take you so far if the script is so lacking and hollow. At least, they had a great run until E23 which is more than I can say for many PTV dramas.

Edited by Gundamwing - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

Waise aik itv ka track dimagh main aya hai which can lead to separation 😆.

Ye rohail haar dafa divorce divorce karta rahta hai + he also said that he will be back with a bang.


What if he makes divorce paper aur send kar de khan mansion.After love confession, the next morning, meerab ko woh papers mil jaye and she thinks that murtasim was playing with her and leave the house.

Murtasim first search for her desperately then he sees those divorce papers phir he gets angry and stopped searching for meerab and become angry man.

Yahan meerab gets pregnant and has meesam.Saba calls murtasim and tells him abt his child because she was sick.That's why he came to saba's house with tashan 😆

Last episode mein meerab came to know abt those papers so she comes back to khan mansion with meesam.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Heeba

Mark my words.. this is how THURSDAY will end and RUIN our weekend 😭😭😂😂😡😡


https://twitter.com/aimankhn07/status/1658205628047695883?s=46&t=vWydrv1kM9_fbNX9eLsWcw


They cant end with this scene... I will go crazy thinking about all the possibilities 😭😭😭

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Rsrockz

Obsessive love disorder(OLD) is where a person assumes their obsession to be love, in Haya case she thinks her obsession with murtasim is ❤️ and she thinks she's doing something for the greater good. In her mind she deserves everything given to Meerab. Their separation can clear her illusionary ☁️ s and will make her realise that murtasim never had any feelings for her. Haya realisation that she's wasting her life, time and energy in a wasteful pursuit will let her bin all her schemes and move on.

Haya Obsession could be from the fact that she's an orphan and never had anything in her life with full rights. MB treated her like daughter but Haya isn't the real daughter, she also had some jealousy for mariyum for this reason, remember she said ek theer dho nishaani. Her life was always at the mercy and kindness of others. Hence, by hook or crook, she wanted to become the owner of wealth and riches of khan family by marrying murtasim.

In her mind Haya has all the valid reasons to fight for her love, because meerasim never had a proper marital relationship, meerab's unwillingness to respect their marriage and indifference to murtasim is quite evident to her.


Do you think Haya is a sociopath?

I was just reading an article on it and it says:

The list of common traits you might see in someone who has antisocial personality disorder include:

  • Not understanding the difference between right and wrong.
  • Not respecting the feelings and emotions of others.
  • Constant lying or deception.
  • Being callous.
  • Difficulty recognizing emotion.
  • Manipulation.
  • Arrogance.
  • Violating the rights of others through dishonest actions.
  • Impulsiveness.
  • Risk-taking.
  • Difficulty appreciating the negative aspects of their behavior.

“There’s just a total lack of empathy or recognizing that what they’ve done has hurt someone or it’s only benefited themselves”...“And sometimes they might recognize what they’re doing is wrong, they just don’t care or they justify it to themselves.”

Haya seems to have these traits. I do not know much about personality disorders but you seem to know quite a bit. So do you think Haya is a sociopath (i.e. someone who has antisocial personality disorder)

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: midniteangel

They cant end with this scene... I will go crazy thinking about all the possibilities 😭😭😭

The makers will give the promo for next Wednesday so we will get an idea of what happens after this scene.

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