Public opinion on Kerala Story. - Page 7

Public has already provided their opinion - the movie is trending, the movie is making money, there are free shows being organized by various social groups (who have NOTHING to do with any political party FYI).

Defending the wrong doings arising from dogmatic approach of a religion and then labelling everything as propaganda..LWers should really be ashamed of themselves..but then I recently heard a whole podcast of Padmashree KK Mohammed (this man is absolutely great!!) on a Left wing channel FYI - Lallantop, who mentioned how when a Muslim person is trolled, the one coming to defend them will be liberal Hindus along with Muslims, but if a Hindu person is hated upon, no Muslim will ever come to defend them and how if only Muslims would concede on some areas and accept the wrongdoings..Hindus would happily forgive them and move on. This whole defense mechanism and victim card move is just awful honestly. This will definitely be my last post on this topic.

Originally posted by: NatkhatPyare

Differentiating genuine conversion from targeted conversion is difficult when one person is hiding their Identity or faking their Identity to trap another one into conversion. But when the person is not hiding their religious identity and yet targeting for conversion there are certain tell tale signs like - denigrating Gods of other religion, instilling fear or persuading through desirable things or pleasures.

People say adults are not dumb for making certain choices. And then same people question them for choosing a certain party or PM. First make up your mind whether u want to say adult people cannot be made (through presuation or fear) to make certain choices or whether they CAN be brainwashed to make certain choices. When u say - "But lets say a small portion of women are really dumb and can get brainwashed." Then that means bjp brainwashing and polarising such a large population based on religion is not possible since so many adult people cannot be brainwashed right? First decide on one thing whether a large number of adults can be brainwashed or not. Then we will continue this argument.

The real reason why conversion of Hindu women is so easy now because parents don't care to educate their children about Hinduism like people of other religions do about their own religion. When the roots are weak it's easier to dislocate a plant (convert a person).

Clearly, the other person is saying that even brainwashed adults are adults and have the freedom to choose. Who is to say who is brainwashed and who isn't. And yes of course if people are voting for one party in such large numbers, it is their choice. Nobody is taking that away from them. It's about who is doing something that is illegal, something against the law. When you're giving hate speeches against a particular religion, that should be punishable by law but isn't because you're the government and you're playing with law. That is the problem. You can't stop people from voting for a particular party. But there is something called propaganda. And that can be brought to light. Just like this movie is. Just like that Kashmir movie was. So as to influence people to see things in a certain way. This can be exposed, that's what some people try to do. But nobody is forcefully stopping anyone from voting for any party. Like some goons who go after inter-caste or inter-religion couples and beat them up or kill them. That is definitely wrong.

Instead of getting so worked up over Hindu women getting converted in a faraway Kerala, while people have no idea about any other issues in Kerala, one can just let them be. Considering that Hindus are in a very very comfortable majority of 80 freaking percent in a country of 140 crore people, I think we can just relax. Hindu khatre mein nahi hain.

Originally posted by: MaxMayfield

Public has already provided their opinion - the movie is trending, the movie is making money, there are free shows being organized by various social groups (who have NOTHING to do with any political party FYI).

Defending the wrong doings arising from dogmatic approach of a religion and then labelling everything as propaganda..LWers should really be ashamed of themselves..but then I recently heard a whole podcast of Padmashree KK Mohammed (this man is absolutely great!!) on a Left wing channel FYI - Lallantop, who mentioned how when a Muslim person is trolled, the one coming to defend them will be liberal Hindus along with Muslims, but if a Hindu person is hated upon, no Muslim will ever come to defend them and how if only Muslims would concede on some areas and accept the wrongdoings..Hindus would happily forgive them and move on. This whole defense mechanism and victim card move is just awful honestly. This will definitely be my last post on this topic.

@bold : And no "liberal" Hindu as well in order to maintain their liberal cred.

Originally posted by: NatkhatPyare

Don't get agitated and worked up. I'm not attacking you. ☯️

I don't always keep the record of what everyone says. If u didn't say anything about BJP brainwashing Indians then i will not contradict you. That is why i asked for your opinion on this matter first. Now that u say u don't believe BJP didn't brainwash such a large population let's continue with ur argument that only a small number of adult girls can be brainwashed and the only solution is to give them more freedom.

No it's not. Rather Hindus should educate their children into their culture and religion from childhood. Muslims go to madrasas and mosque on Friday. Learn quran from childhood. Christians go to church on Sunday attend masses, read Bible. But Hindus think going to temple is outdated. Rama and Krishna are myths and Hinduism is not scientific. Hence conversion is much easier in Hindus. How will giving more freedom solve this? Educating them into their religion from childhood would! After they become adult they will be able to make an informed choice whether to convert or not.

Isn't religion supposed to be a personal thing? Just because certain religions have made an army out of their followers, should we also change our thinking and become like them? Why not just join their religion then? Why to make a peaceful religion into an aggressive one to compete with others? It doesn't make sense to me at all. These people who are so agitated over parents not teaching their kids the scriptures, really how many people in these organisations have read the scriptures or do on a regular basis? I will bet not many. That's the sad truth. If they did, they wouldn't be talking like this in the first place cuz they would know that it is all moh and maya. 😆

Originally posted by: Khalidimagh

I woulmdnt but these girls did...

Are you completely denying the conversion tactics?

Didn't you see what happened to shraddha only recently? There are one or two girls found in suitcase every now n then and yet you deny all this?

You may find it juvenile but their tactics are working in their favor. ..we all hailed PK and amir back then for doing exactly what asifa is doing in the movie...I. e brainwashing hindus against their own religion ...didn't we?😆

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7AfIySSawM

there is a reason no one wants them back.

Originally posted by: astha36

Clearly, the other person is saying that even brainwashed adults are adults and have the freedom to choose. Who is to say who is brainwashed and who isn't. And yes of course if people are voting for one party in such large numbers, it is their choice. Nobody is taking that away from them. It's about who is doing something that is illegal, something against the law. When you're giving hate speeches against a particular religion, that should be punishable by law but isn't because you're the government and you're playing with law. That is the problem. You can't stop people from voting for a particular party. But there is something called propaganda. And that can be brought to light. Just like this movie is. Just like that Kashmir movie was. So as to influence people to see things in a certain way. This can be exposed, that's what some people try to do. But nobody is forcefully stopping anyone from voting for any party. Like some goons who go after inter-caste or inter-religion couples and beat them up or kill them. That is definitely wrong.

Instead of getting so worked up over Hindu women getting converted in a faraway Kerala, while people have no idea about any other issues in Kerala, one can just let them be. Considering that Hindus are in a very very comfortable majority of 80 freaking percent in a country of 140 crore people, I think we can just relax. Hindu khatre mein nahi hain.

Yes TKF was propaganda and TKS propaganda. Only Islamophobia is the real deal.

Thankfully more and more people are rejecting such stupid liberal logic.

Originally posted by: astha36

Clearly, the other person is saying that even brainwashed adults are adults and have the freedom to choose. Who is to say who is brainwashed and who isn't. And yes of course if people are voting for one party in such large numbers, it is their choice. Nobody is taking that away from them. It's about who is doing something that is illegal, something against the law. When you're giving hate speeches against a particular religion, that should be punishable by law but isn't because you're the government and you're playing with law. That is the problem. You can't stop people from voting for a particular party. But there is something called propaganda. And that can be brought to light. Just like this movie is. Just like that Kashmir movie was. So as to influence people to see things in a certain way. This can be exposed, that's what some people try to do. But nobody is forcefully stopping anyone from voting for any party. Like some goons who go after inter-caste or inter-religion couples and beat them up or kill them. That is definitely wrong.

Instead of getting so worked up over Hindu women getting converted in a faraway Kerala, while people have no idea about any other issues in Kerala, one can just let them be. Considering that Hindus are in a very very comfortable majority of 80 freaking percent in a country of 140 crore people, I think we can just relax. Hindu khatre mein nahi hain.

Watching the Kerala Story made me feel thee girls didn't have a brain to be brainwashed.

Originally posted by: astha36

Isn't religion supposed to be a personal thing? Just because certain religions have made an army out of their followers, should we also change our thinking and become like them? Why not just join their religion then? Why to make a peaceful religion into an aggressive one to compete with others? It doesn't make sense to me at all. These people who are so agitated over parents not teaching their kids the scriptures, really how many people in these organisations have read the scriptures or do on a regular basis? I will bet not many. That's the sad truth. If they did, they wouldn't be talking like this in the first place cuz they would know that it is all moh and maya. 😆

You are confused between defence and offence..and... Precaution vs Treatment. Everyone has a right to take measures that ensure his or her safety without harming others unless necessary.