Public opinion on Kerala Story. - Page 3

Originally posted by: Bollydolly

I am sure in some cases girls convert willingly.
It is beyond my understanding as to why but I think it is the concept Hindus grow up with that all religions are the same and does not matter who or what you pray to that is the main reason and not patriarchy.

However, disregarding the many cases of deception that happen is like being an ostrich. Whether you see it or not these cases are happening.

Well patriarchy is very much real whether you see it or not. Not everything has to do with religion.

I'm not denying that cases of deception do exist, but then should we see every conversion where girl changes it after marriage as brainwashing, or should we give them the benefit of doubt? Honestly I won't judge if Hindu girls do doubt every Muslim guy. Doesn't change that its still prejudice but prevention is better than cure. In this case there may not even be a cure.

Originally posted by: Bollydolly

Bold; When hormones are running amok reality is out of the window. 😳

What is the solution then? Do you also think teaching Hindu girls about their religion would stop them from converting? Can't the hormones overpower that as well.

Also these girls don't get married or change their religion when they're teenagers. They do it when they're adults and in control of their hormones.

Originally posted by: PangaNaLe

Well patriarchy is very much real whether you see it or not. Not everything has to do with religion.

I'm not denying that cases of deception do exist, but then should we see every conversion where girl changes it after marriage as brainwashing, or should we give them the benefit of doubt? Honestly I won't judge if Hindu girls do doubt every Muslim guy. Doesn't change that its still prejudice but prevention is better than cure. In this case there may not even be a cure.

Of course patriarchy is real but should not be pushed into everything.

In conversion patriarchy is not the issue otherwise non Hindu girls would routinely change to Hinduism is they marry a Hindu. That is not the case. Mostly it is the Hindu spouse who is made to change the religion.

It is the Hindu upbringing IMO. The inability to understand basic fundamentals of their own religion. Especially a religion which is so diverse, does not subscribe to a single book and is relaxed about other religions. You are allowed to pray however you want. Hindus go to temples when they feel like. Nothing is regimented like it is in Islam and Christianity.
Unfortunately Hinduism is not an organised religion and that is a problem in the face of other organised religions especially the Abrahamic ones with truth claims.

Originally posted by: PangaNaLe

What is the solution then? Do you also think teaching Hindu girls about their religion would stop them from converting? Can't the hormones overpower that as well.

Also these girls don't get married or change their religion when they're teenagers. They do it when they're adults and in control of their hormones.

Yes, most definitely. When one knows the basic fundamentals of their religion that gives them confidence about it and they can answer any questions and counter question the other party.

Many of the girls fall in love when they 16-17, a very impressionable age. They might get married when they 20-21 but by then they have already been groomed and conversion is easy.

Originally posted by: Bollydolly

Of course patriarchy is real but should not be pushed into everything.

In conversion patriarchy is not the issue otherwise non Hindu girls would routinely change to Hinduism is they marry a Hindu. That is not the case. Mostly it is the Hindu spouse who is made to change the religion.

It is the Hindu upbringing IMO. The inability to understand basic fundamentals of their own religion. Especially a religion which is so diverse, does not subscribe to a single book and is relaxed about other religions. You are allowed to pray however you want. Hindus go to temples when they feel like. Nothing is regimented like it is in Islam and Christianity.
Unfortunately Hinduism is not an organised religion and that is a problem in the face of other organised religions especially the Abrahamic ones with truth claims.

@red, is there any study or data to prove it?

In India not everyone is religious (in any religion) but everyone is patriarchal. Also why Hindu men don't get trapped in same way if its not patriarchy?

Originally posted by: Bollydolly

Yes, most definitely. When one knows the basic fundamentals of their religion that gives them confidence about it and they can answer any questions and counter question the other party.

Many of the girls fall in love when they 16-17, a very impressionable age. They might get married when they 20-21 but by then they have already been groomed and conversion is easy.

But if we're talking about hormones, won't these hormones make the girls blind in love and not see reason. Why would they care about their religion if they are not smart enough to see through the ill intentions of the guy? The guy would trap her in the name of love, and in the guise of patriarchy, make her convert.

Originally posted by: PangaNaLe

@red, is there any study or data to prove it?

In India not everyone is religious (in any religion) but everyone is patriarchal. Also why Hindu men don't get trapped in same way if its not patriarchy?

Do you live in India or have grown up here?
It is a common occurence.
no, I have no data except what I and many others have seen over and over again.

These days everyone needs data for even the most obviious happenings. Maybe to sound very intellectual😉.

Originally posted by: PangaNaLe

But if we're talking about hormones, won't these hormones make the girls blind in love and not see reason. Why would they care about their religion if they are not smart enough to see through the ill intentions of the guy? The guy would trap her in the name of love, and in the guise of patriarchy, make her convert.

But it will definitelybhave a little dampening effect.

Since now the Kerala Story is making the girls and their families more aware someone should do a prospective study and gather data about this 20 years from now.

That will answer your question in the scientific manner that you are seeking. Maybe you could conduct the study yourself since you are the one with all these queries

Just going by the discussion... there is God, why should you worry for something like that ? .. Asked God if this person is correct or not correct for you before even talking or deciding to fall in love... God is gonna ignore you??? Keeping you safe is God responsibility? No one can insult God more than the believers when they depict Him to be so powerless and incapable of protecting and healing...

This is what happens when you leave God and concentrate on human.. Nothing human can give you except stress, headache, problem, troubles, pain, worry on worldly issues, depression etc..

Yes I live and have grown up in India and have not seen many such cases. Experiences can depend on surrounding that is why I asked for some data.

I don't want to sound intellectual or anything. I just don't easily believe in anything anyone says. Won't that make me dumb like those Hindu girls who end up converting?

Yes it will have a little dampening effect, the same way giving women freedom would also have some effect and stop them from getting fooled. There is no full proof or fast solution for this problem.