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He looks at his watch and then looks back at her, he is going to make her wait like he did. Hahaha this is exactly what he is doing!! Cause based on their teasing and flirting, she wouldnt have said anything had he chosen to sleep beside her..

It starts with him destroying her arrogance which is the contract, she will feel the pinch of loneliness and the world will feel desolate to her as he denies her the same pleasures she once denied him, he will show her what is real betrayal as he holds back. My darling do not be in any deception that I want this more than you, I am Master of my Domain and I will hold out longer than you can. He will trouble her with his rejection and make her cry first before he gives in. He will knock her down, punish her and ask her why she didn't trust him in the first place.

I actually like the ost played as well. When i first watched it life i didnt pay attention to the lyrics but then when i watched it again, he matches perfectly. He will break her “gurroor” and “ana”.

At this point they both want to breach the contract, but none of them wants to make the first move.. one of them has to “win” this battle!!

i dont know if its me, but ive always felt the male ost has more arrogance while female version is more sad and heart broken.

When the separation does eventually happen, his anger will break her heart.. thats what i “predict”

Loved the analysis as always ❤️

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/163034718

Dear Gundamwing,

First, I want to say, your words are so beautiful to the point of being poetic. I am not sure how I have stumbled upon your posts, but I guess it was while I was being frustrated after reading/ hearing so many comments on how poorly written Meerab’s character is. Barring few loopholes that could have been presented properly to proceed with the dramatics needed, she is acting the way a girl of the same circumstances would have – a perfectly flawed, normal girl! So, your perspectives (and in-depth analyses) of the scenes came as a such a breath of fresh air. 

I am fully in awe of some of your points – it is like you have worded what I felt exactly the same way I wanted, but with way more beautifully than I could have ever imagined.

‘Damn Serious’

‘Murtasim loves his wife so much that he has learnt Meerabish, now using it against her as he spouts gibberish about Sasta Salman in anger. He is packing to leave, and Meerab asks what about me 4 bloody times, this is her giving him consent to take her, but MK the husband has gone tata bye bye in his anger. This is the second time in their marriage he doesn’t understand her tearful eyes are pleading him to not abandon her, he throws her ‘meri marzi’ back in her face and storms off. The shock and pain on her face reflected as he unintentionally made her relive her parents’ abandonment all over again. She needed his assurance here that even in the abyss he will not leave her, and he failed her a second time. He wasn’t giving her agency of consent to follow him, instead he forgot his promise of ‘kabin Nahin’ as he let go of her hand.’

This scene is a one of the most favourite of mine. The sheer brilliance of this scene is that it gives us a glimpse to the vulnerabilities of these two egoistic, alpha characters (enacted and presented brilliantly, as well) – superficially, a seemingly normal fight after all that happened, but dishes out much more than that. As you beautifully pointed out, Meerab is reliving her moment of abandonment (I am so glad you noticed it too!) – It was all there in her eyes, if that was not enough, she puts it in front of her husband in words. Agreed, not directly (of course, she is too proud to do that directly!), but in the most vulnerable way possible for her. I believe the ‘abandonment of her parents’ is the last straw that broke her completely, stripping her from everything she had in her previous life. And he is the anchor that saved her from drowning in the abyss. Even though, she was cornered to accept his hand to save herself and she did it unwillingly at the beginning, she knows that she depends on him to be afloat amidst the tsunami that her life has become. She would never accept it, would never say it aloud; lest her heart be broken again! A perfectly normal ‘reaction’ from a girl betrayed by the two people (and relationships) who were the foundation of all her life, dreams, and everything. But she wants Murtasim’s assurance – to be with her, not to abandon her; wants him to ask her to come with him, may be even wants him to drag her with him (as he always does). He does nothing of that sort! Rather leaves a broken Meerab behind.

But what she fails to notice in her own fear and pain, is that her husband is also afraid, and brutally hurt too. Murtasim’s Achilles point – his position in her life, has been challenged. You will notice that this is ultimately what rattles him when Haya was spewing nonsense during his homecoming after the ‘accident’, paving to a minor misunderstanding – ‘Ke who tumhe apna shohar nahin manthi’

This is the same thing that triggered his very violent reaction at Mr. Sticky Notes’ flat – that idiot has the guts to come up with hundreds of relationships with his ‘biwi’, but she fails to defend the one relationship they have. After glaring at her to do the honours, his patience tips off and he takes it upon himself to drill that fact it into Mr. Sticky Notes’ head – she is his ‘biwi’ and remains so till the end! (And I agree with your points, why Meerab is unable to say anything here.).

She has very vehemently refused to accept being his ‘biwi’ during their Walima fight. Though the refusal was not so strong in any other later scenes, she has never accepted it openly either. So, he needs assurance too. His vulnerability has prevented him seeing what Meerab is going through at that moment. He puts the ball in her court – ‘Tumhari marzi Meerab’. It is his agonized request for her – I chose you always, now it’s your turn! So, I agree with you, he is not giving the assurance she so wanted, rather he requests her to give him the assurance this one time.

‘But our girl is a fighter she dusted herself off, picked herself up and ran after her man. That ‘kabin Nahin’ was a two-way promise, she is not letting go just yet. She learned from before that his goooooooo doesn’t meant go away, she needs to stand her ground and fight back. Her plea to him that she didn’t come to Karachi to meet Sasta Salman (SS), WRONG ANSWER that is not why he is angry. The frown and the arch of his eyebrows, he stares perturbed at her clueless face, yes Mr. Khan your wife is a duffod.’

And she gives him what he has asked from her – choosing to follow him to the eternity. I love how you put it down – his GO doesn’t mean go away. He will never let her go. He has said it to her, if that is not good enough, he has said this to his mother and her father as well. And I feel her pleading words here is what he needed to reduce half of his insecurities. To believe that her being at that Mr. Sticky Notes’ flat is not directly her fault, that she has not willingly arranged this trip to meet him – We should give the man credit, he knows that her motive to come to Karachchi was not for a happy and teary reconciliation with her ‘long lost parents’! He can have doubts; he is only human! So, he contemplates, and half of his anger is gone when he got into the vehicle. But his anger on her for not defending their relationship and putting herself on the dangers way by letting herself get kidnapped (these are more likely ‘disappointment’ and ‘fear’, but it is Murtasim Khan that we are talking about!), and the hurt that follows are still there. So, he continues to ignore her, till she rattles him violently to his core, so that some other emotion surfaces, overpowering the anger – a dance of power dynamics the couple is so used to by now!

Just my thoughts! And thank you so much for penning all these beautiful words, will be reading every one of those!

😊

Sorry for the repeated post, Once again loved every word of your analyses. Will read the others as well!

Originally posted by: Gundamwing

EPISODE 31 (UPDATED WITH NEW INFO)

Prince of Flirt and Maharani of teasing do the mating dance of the Alphas

Contract is a matter of pride of her. Contract has gone beyond ohhhhh he can't touch me without my consent, she is just holding on to those papers now as a symbol of her victory. Like how people collect war trophies from a battlefield to remember. She thinks she achieved something big with that contract, she knows Murtasim won't have touched her without her consent, but she is a silly girl and wants to claim this pointless victory as hers. She didn't defeat him, there never was a battle.

Contract means his word wasn't good enough for her. She wanted control and first right over herself and he promised her that before he even saw those papers, which is his wedding vow to her. Then why make him sign those papers, it is a strike against his honour. Therefore she has to destroy those papers in front of him and restore his pride before he can move forward with her. He can wait forever for her love, but he wants her trust now.

She was probably relieved when he ripped that document, but her husband is a clever fox dumps that nuisance back on her head, nope sorry babe this one is yours.

She taps his heart, it is late she says I will set the bed for you, now where do you want it to be. She threw the first challenge by throwing the blanket at him, he is stunned at her daring challenge accepted as he pulls her towards him. This mirrors the dance scene, where she slithers her hand in his giving him consent to take it away, and he pulls her close. He gives her the blanket, and she caresses his forearm as she grabs back the blanket, consent given. Her look was telling come on baby tonight is the night, we don't see Murtasim face, but Meerab tilts her head slyly sooooo not tonight then. She is so smug with the way she drops the blanket and points to the sofa 'are you sure', she waits for his response, he blinks in acceptance yup the bed it is, and she nods back fine then. He goofily smiles after, he could have taken his chance but choses not to, he sighs and nods at is own foolishness. He looks at his watch and then looks back at her, he is going to make her wait till he gets what he truly wants from her.

She has give him her consent wants him to make the first move, but he goes back to the sofa. He is tempted alright, smiles and stares at her the whole time but doesn't give in to desire. She stares blankly at the ceiling, he is not coming over is he. She does her final tease as she gets up smiles and flicks the blanket over her and turns her back to him, sleep on the sofa then bloody fine by me.

If Murtasim is being rejected wouldn't kwaish ki baarish song be more suited to describe his POV, but they chose a harsher song. The bewafai song, it is his POV that he is holding back. The song doesn't start at it its natural starting point, but starts in the second stanza when the word arrogance is first mentioned.

It starts with him destroying her arrogance which is the contract, she will feel the pinch of loneliness and the world will feel desolate to her as he denies her the same pleasures she once denied him, he will show her what is real betrayal as he holds back. My darling do not be in any deception that I want this more than you, I am Master of my Domain and I will hold out longer than you can. He will trouble her with his rejection and make her cry first before he gives in. He will knock her down, punish her and ask her why she didn't trust him in the first place.

His smile drops, he looks more defiant as the song takes a more sinister tone. His thoughts have wandered past his conjugal rights, he is examining Meerab and thinking of their life together. She can have dreams but he will interpret them for her. He is her saviour not the lock that chains her to her trauma. But if she sees him as her enemy and tries to break free from him believing she is escaping her pain then she will fail and any attempt to do so will incur her his wrath.

In alpha relationships it is the dance they do before the act that is more interesting than the act itself.

So after confirming with Twitter TB Sherlock Team they have found proof that Meerab gave clear consent.

https://twitter.com/TheJTwitting/status/1646200988544516117?s=20

Originally posted by: anu41982

Sorry for the repeated post, Once again loved every word of your analyses. Will read the others as well!

Thank you Anu

Your thoughts are beautiful too, you wrote with so much feeling, depth and heart.

I am happy that I gave joy to some of you with my analysis. If this lets you guys enjoy your TB journey better they that is all the reward I need.

BTW I love the name Anu, it is my favourite name. If I could change my name legally I would change it to Anu.

Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

Sometimes ur writing is more beautiful than episode itself ❤️

Originally posted by: Gundamwing

Episode 31

Prince of Flirt and Maharani of teasing do the mating dance of the Alphas

Contract is a matter of pride of her. Contract has gone beyond ohhhhh he can't touch me without my consent, she is just holding on to those papers now as a symbol of her victory. Like how people collect war trophies from a battlefield to remember. She thinks she achieved something big with that contract, she knows Murtasim won't have touched her without her consent, but she is a silly girl and wants to claim this pointless victory as hers. She didn't defeat him, there never was a battle.

Contract means his word wasn't good enough for her. She wanted control and first right over herself and he promised her that before he even saw those papers, which is his wedding vow to her. Then why make him sign those papers, it is a strike against his honour. Therefore she has to destroy those papers in front of him and restore his pride before he can move forward with her. He can wait forever for her love, but he wants her trust now.

She was probably relieved when he ripped that document, but her husband is a clever fox dumps that nuisance back on her head, nope sorry babe this one is yours.

She taps his heart, it is late I will set the bed for you, now where do you want it to be. She threw the first challenge by throwing the blanket at him, he says challenge accepted when he pulls her towards him. He gives her back the blanket as she continues to stare, noooo not yet. She is so smug with the way she drops the blanket and points to the sofa, it was full tease you are the one choosing this dear husband. She didn't reject him as he knowingly smiles, sighs and nods. He looks at his watch and then looks back at her, he is going to make her wait like he did.

She wants him to make the first move, but he goes back to the sofa. He is tempted alright, smiles and stares at her the whole time but doesn't give in to desire. She is staring blankly at the ceiling he is not coming over is he. She does her final tease as she gets up smiles and flicks the blanket over her and turns her back to him, sleep on the sofa then bloody fine by me.

The bewafai song, it is his POV that he is holding back. The song doesn't start at it its natural starting point, but starts in the second stanza when the word arrogance is first mentioned.

It starts with him destroying her arrogance which is the contract, she will feel the pinch of loneliness and the world will feel desolate to her as he denies her the same pleasures she once denied him, he will show her what is real betrayal as he holds back. My darling do not be in any deception that I want this more than you, I am Master of my Domain and I will hold out longer than you can. He will trouble her with his rejection and make her cry first before he gives in. He will knock her down, punish her and ask her why she didn't trust him in the first place.

His smile drops, he looks more defiant as the song takes a more sinister tone. She can have dreams but he will interpret them for her. He is is her saviour not the lock that chains her to her trauma. But if she sees him as her enemy and tries to break free of him believing she is escaping her pain she will fail and any attempt to do so will incur his wrath.

In alpha relationships it is the dance they do before the act that is more interesting than the act itself.

You and Neha made my morning happy with your writings

Honestly your episode write ups are amazing! You make more sense of the characters than the actual show itself. If it wasn’t for reading your posts I don’t think I would enjoy the show at all.

The storyline of the actual show is not smooth, I don’t know if it’s the writer of the director but it keeps chopping and changing so that once you feel you’re on a track and it gets interesting suddenly they do a curveball and it completely goes off the rails. 😕

But thanks to you Gun and the other writers on IF, I am still in it for the long run. Waiting to read more of your analyses of the episodes!

Episode 32

Part 1 (Will you die for me)

Before even we start analyzing this episode, we set the character of Meerab in the right frame of mind. We just saw Murtasim go through his cycles of anger where he forgot his promises and let go her hand and now, we are seeing Meerab succumbing to her weakness of naïve idealism. In their weaknesses they forget about each other, hurt one another, and get hurt themselves. Meerab’s Murtasim went ‘tata bye bye’ when he is angry and now Murasim’s Meerab went ‘astalistva baby’ in pursuit of her high ideals. It is wonderful they take turns to hurt each other like this DUFFODS.

The episode starts with Meerab thinking about zubi dubi and JudasYam, Meerab wants to be loved back passionately by the one she loves. Who do you love Meerab? She is thinking about her herself, her desires and the men who claim to love her are Sasta Salman (SS) and Murtasim. But it doesn’t matter who she was thinking about when she said ‘tum bhi’, because Murtasim got angry before she even uttered those words, which means he understood she was comparing his love to someone else, and she was and that right there is the problem.

Murtasim always in tune with Meerab’s emotions, dear what worries you. He blinks go ahead what can I do for you, blink is his language of love. Meerab’s question ‘do you love me enough to die for me’? (I will come back to how stupid this question is later) When she asked this question you realized she has slipped into the world of naïve idealism, and she has forgotten Murtasim and is going to hurt him. Music changes he gets angry, he knows she is weighing his love against others, how dare she.

Will he give his life for her? She got the answer to this question like 10 episodes ago so why ask this redundant question? What Meerab really wants to know is how much does he love her, but she is an unimaginative soul and frames the question in the lamest way possible. What happened to her description of the poets last episode, she couldn’t articulate a more profound question? Reason being Murtasim is her source of passion only he inspires her to explore beyond herself, on her own she is a humdrum.

Murtasim stares at her for 12 seconds with the ‘Nahin’ in between to give her a response, I had to laugh at his simmering rage UNBELIEVABLE. He says he will kill for her (explore this point later), even in his anger he answers her correctly, but does she understand the true meaning behind his answer NO. When she dares to ask why while talking of SS Sacchi Mohabath, Murtasim changes to his military stance, his answer is a reminder not to cross his bottom line, does she even know what his bottom line is? Murtasim stares her down for 20 seconds, he is thinking time for plan C, plan A ‘jump now’ didn’t work because she didn’t get his intentions, plan B ‘promise me’ isn’t effective.

With her ‘Tum Bhi’ and ‘Sachi Mohabbath’ she compared Sasta Salman White Board buffoonery, or Zubi Dubi fake love lines or doesn’t matter who to her husband’s love for her. By comparing Murtasim’s love to anyone else Meerab cheapened his love, he is an extremely prideful person, and he places Meerab even above him, so just imagine how highly he thinks of their love. They are both exceptional in his eyes and cannot be compared to mere mortals. Meerab not only insults him, and his love for her, but offends herself as she doesn’t think she is worth more, where is her dignity gone?

This question will you die for me is futile, the answer is ‘yes of course’ anyone will just say that as easily as SS and Zubi Dubi did, because it is the safest answer to give, and it proves nothing. But no true lover will ask this question of the one they love. Even Joker the psychopath when asking Harley Quinn to die for him says nooooo death is too easy and is not proof of devotion. If you truly loved someone, why would you want to imagine a scenario where they will be in mortal peril for you, imagine the pain you must go through because of the fear of losing them or worst you have lost them. Didn’t Meerab experience a teaser of this pain post second car accident, and now she loves him more than ever so how can she just casually mention his death. Murtasim’s love for Meerab is ‘I don’t want you to die for me I want you to live for me’, because he could never imagine a world without her and would never ask something so cruel. That is why his ‘jump now’ wasn’t about putting her life in danger or testing her, instead he demands that she fight for her life, as her life is his life.

Murtasim will die for her of course to save her life, but when he said ‘I will kill for you’ he is giving her a far more profound promise of I want to live with you, and I want to live for you. And in the jump/promise scene, Meerab gave her life to Murtasim and by doing so she promised to live for him. When she gave him that promise he understood her intentions and put his anger back in the bottle and came back to her. Here he is saying something similar, and she doesn’t get his message, Meerab again fails to understand him while he reads her like an open book. But by asking this question and by comparing his love shows how much Meerab is only thinking about her ideals and ignores the pain she causes him with her words.