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Posted: 2 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: Phosphorus


Aman is very charming and a good person. Who is denying that? 😂 But fact remains Anjali was always in love with Rahul. Are we shaming her for not being able to get over Rahul & not falling for Aman? What would have been ideal, Anjali squashing these feelings of hers and and getting married to Aman coz he is single & doesn’t have a kid? Wouldn’t that make her superficial?

If someone pines over unrequited love for some sore loser doofus from college for over eight years yeah.....

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Someone’s fiancé really shouldn’t do this with another dude

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I’m glad you brought this up


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Posted: 2 years ago
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If Tina was alive, Rahul wouldn't have even bothered about Anjali. He still did not think about Anjali till choti Anjali made him play that game Neelam wala game. Well, that lasted for a few minutes and he didn't care to think about her again.

He wouldn't have tried to find out about her or meet her, if it wasn't for the 'accidental' meeting that happened at the Summer Camp, cause he didn't go there for the older Anjali in the first place. He went their for his daughter.

His and Tina's daughter.

Bottom line? He always loved Tina as the woman in his life. He was attracted to her in College, beyond all other women. She always caught his eye and his heart. He confessed to her, got in a relationship with her and married her. He missed her, used to keep her pic always with him and honored her memory for the most part. What more proof does one need - That Rahul was for Tina and Anjali was for Aman.

If Tina didn't die, there would be no Rahul Anjali in the first place. Even after she died, he never thought about Anjali, until choti Anjali set it up for him.

Even in the Summer Camp? It was his Mother that had to coax him to get together with Anjali, because choti Anjali needed a 'Ma'. And ofcourse, Anjali looked feminine enough for him, so he must've thought why not give it a try?

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Posted: 2 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: Clochette

Well, I didn't react with an emoji on this remark ... still I felt like 😉 because I made - in my mind - the association Salman - Ajay (NOT Aman - Ajay)...and I think, both are difficult for a woman to live with (especially for a Kajol-like one)...


Fact of the matter is that your wink and hehe emoji would have made sense if it was for SRK (not Rahul) the way he shamelessly cheated on his real life wife with PeeCee. Now that I will call a horrible husband and someone difficult for woman.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#75

25 year ago movie.


Firstly, Kajol has a right to voice her opinion. She is allowed to think differently to the character of Anjali.

Her opinion on her choosing Aman over Rahul plays no relevant significance in terms of whom she is married to in real life. It is not like her situation was the same with Ajay in real life as Angalis in the movie. Whatever fireworks happened for them, worked.. They are a happy family of four.


25 years is a long time. Times have changed. When this movie released, Karan Johar expressed his inspiration came from Dawsons creek. Where Dawson's best friend Joey was in love with him and he fell for the new girl Jane. After KKHH was released and old. The show Dawsons Creek showed Joey settling for sometime else at the end. Karan, puri picture tho dekh lete.. lol.

That was an era of candy floss films where tomboy best friends fell for their male friends and he falling for something in a skirt. Created bitter sweet, butterflies in your tummy drama.

We were all a bugger for them. Watching how the emotions and dynamics change and how the male lead will fall for her.

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Regarding KKHH, for the timeline it was set in I don't believe that it would have even crossed peoples mind that this movie will one day be regarded as sexist. A little objectifying in terms of ideology then yes in certain parts. But those ideologies back then were mostly the norm.

For decades Women had dresscodes and so did men, all over the world.

Without getting into the whole gender is a choice argument. I see mostly there being 2 genders. Biological man and biological woman. Normally most socially and sexually associate with the gender affirmed at birth. Cannot believe I'm explaining this.

How and why was it wrong for Rahul to be not attracted to Anjali whilst she was being gender neutral. Don't call me a girl.

A little over tomboy..Tomboys still think of themselves within the birth gender group.

A he had every right not to feel attracted to her by physical appearance and as far as he was concerned she was acting practically gender neutral.

He fell in love with whom he found attractive, whom he connected with on a romantic level. A relationship he was serious about and had she not died.. Anjali had no letters. Rahul would never have thought of Anjali. Ouch! That part hurts.


Aman, realistically Aman should have walked off from Anjali a long time ago

But he waited for her. He was just an object to create jealousy in Rahul which otherwise would not have been ignited.


So when finally they finally meet, so much changed between them that they forgot their little nose touch move. He's all suited and she's in a saree.

So she's finally come to terms with her gender identity. A lot of people do. She broke away from things which tied her to Rahul such as basketball.

Now this whole think girls don't play basketball.. that was sexist. She wore a saree, she wore makeup u didn't have to drill in this ideology to make audiences believe by losing her basketball skillset she is now a woman in it's true form.


Regarding Rahul eyeballing her with her pallu sarkajaye. Well that was to show the audience his attraction towards her. Like a long look in the eyes could not have shown that emotion. As a man he he felt attracted to her in a feminine get up is not an issue. However she was someone whom he knew, and people would have preferred him to fall in love with the person rather than her physical appearance. But did he even know her as the person she had become. Its was still a shock to his system. There had been a 10 year gap.

But either way it cannot be condemmed for him to fall in love with her physical appearance as well. Again this movie is from that era when the girl becomes all that, then the guy falls for her.

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Aman or Rahul?


The boy that loved her too much or the boy who never loved her. (Though, the movies concept was.. Anjali was his true love but he hasn't realised it. Courtesy of that knowledge came from Tinas letters).


Rahul married someone, and she dies and he is shown to fall in love again, or the person whom he was supposed to love all the while instead of Tina.

If he could fall in love with 2 people. Then why couldn't Anjali? Why is the audience against this concept.


It would have been interesting to see Rahul fall in love with Anjali and her falling in love with Aman, and realiss that Rahul was a childish puppy love.

The man that deserved her was Aman. She would have been better dignified.


However the script was that against all odds her manifestation materialised and she ended up with Rahul and could not love another.

We as the audience wanted this back in that era.

Today, I think I would have preferred a twist and for to be with Aman. Rahul had made his choice. So for the final time she would have said 'Bye Rahul'.

Why be his second choice when she was Amans first choice? If Aman waited for her for this long then, naturally he could have won her over with his love.

And Anjali had walked off to the sunset to let Rahul and Tina get on with their lives, yet was in love with Tinas husband for so many years? The audience didn't find that wrong?

She claimed that she has already loved in her life..no darling it was one sided obsession.

Only later u fell both fell in love with each other. At this point, the story finished on Rahul gets Anjali. Because Aman should be dignified and not be a second choice for Anjali.

So Rahul plus Anjali equals Aman keeping his dignity.

So I guess the movie concluded at the time, depending on it's script correctly.

I hear, till date Aman is still footlose and fancy free.

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So whilst you all are trying to conclude Rahul or Aman the bigger question to ask is;

Why did Tina think that 8 years down the line Anjali will be available and still interested in Rahul?

For me that is the biggest flow in the script.


Thank you

CARI

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Posted: 2 years ago
#76

If you think practically KKHH is a 90s movie


In those times dress mattered a lot as not many women were going to work in IT company etc it was traditional jobs for women like teaching, bank etc


After 2005 many women working in It company travelling world so they start wearing modern dress like US women in plenty so now in indian society a modern dressing women or someone acting like tom boy is not that vilanized in indian society as in 1997 when KKHH released


In 1990s you wear modern dress and try to go to middle tier city or village it would be highly unsafe for women or girls Only in modern metros like mumbai, bangalore, chennai etc women could dare wera midi and mini and go out even after 7pm and not have men follow or comment etc


If you think even delhi is dangerous for modern dressing women in 2020 in many places as people are not as modern thinking as a city like mumbai or bangalore there


So Rahul rejecting Anjali came from a mindset that women who dress pant shirt are not fit for wife material. Tina always wore feminine clothes although modern and after marraige only chudidhar or sarees. For rahul to accept anjali as lover or life partner she had to grow her hairs long and wear sareees. You watch any 90s movie heroine be it raveena, karishma, madhuri or kajol before marraige they go with hero in western dress mini, midi, skirts, pant and crop tops. After wedding they wera saree and that too with pallu on head many times in front of hero family.


Even today when a boys family comes to meet girl, girl wears ghagra or salwar no one will dare sit in pant shirt or mini and midi in india. Although in real life they may wearr modern western dress for collee or office but they will wera traditional when boys family comes to look at them


Women are judged even in 2023 based on whether they wear modern western or traditional especially by hubby family or after marraige or after a certain age like 35-40 years above. Thats how indian society is and karan johar is part of indian society

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: carisma2

Without getting into the whole gender is a choice argument. I see mostly there being 2 genders. Biological man and biological woman. Normally most socially and sexually associate with the gender affirmed at birth. Cannot believe I'm explaining this.

Sex is a biological attribute. Gender is a social construct of arbitrary rules telling you how to dress, act, and behave based on the outcome of your gonads.

Originally posted by: carisma2

How and why was it wrong for Rahul to be not attracted to Anjali whilst she was being gender neutral. Don't call me a girl.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Rahul not being attracted to Anjali. Some men are attracted to femme women only. Some men are attracted to masc or non-binary women. They are each entitled to their tastes.

The problem is not in Rahul having a preference. For me the problem is in Anjali completely changing who she is to get the guy she crushed on. I also don't think people deserve to be happily with someone when they don't accept them wholly. Rahul rejected an aspect of Anjali ergo, he doesn't deserve to be happy with the aspect of her he likes. Anjali deserves to be with someone who accepts her wholly.


Originally posted by: carisma2

Aman, realistically Aman should have walked off from Anjali a long time ago

After she had an intimate moment with Rahul and he knew about it - then yes. But why would he walk away otherwise?


Originally posted by: carisma2

So she's finally come to terms with her gender identity. A lot of people do. She broke away from things which tied her to Rahul such as basketball.

Do you mean she finally behaved in the way society wants her to based on the presence of her ovaries? Did she choose to be that way or was she societally coerced or manipulated? I've known many tomboys throughout my life. Some queer, some cishet. No one has changed that drastically unless their families forced them to. The only time I wear a saree is at weddings because it makes my family happy. Even the cishets keep elements of their androgynous styles. And that is why many people have a problem with Anjali's transformation.


Originally posted by: carisma2

As a man he he felt attracted to her in a feminine get up is not an issue. However she was someone whom he knew, and people would have preferred him to fall in love with the person rather than her physical appearance. But did he even know her as the person she had become. Its was still a shock to his system. There had been a 10 year gap.

I don't think anyone will begrudge Rahul for gawking at the saree scene. And there is nothing wrong in him finding her attractive and pursuing a relationship with her either. The problem I have is how it conveniently falls into place in a few days. If I met someone I knew in college and they had changed that much. It means they are no longer the same person I once knew and any pursuit of a new relationship romantic or platonic involves me in getting to know them as they are first. Not swooping in we had chemistry once upon a time.

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Now that I think of it, another thing that would make the story more palatable is if Rahul divorced Tina because he realized Anjali is the one that got away and both Tina and Anjali jr helped him get Anjali.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Listen y’all this is a simple case of jab dil aa gaya gadhe pe toh pari** kya cheez hain. Idk why y’all writing essays




**I don’t know the puuuuling of Pari. Adjust kar lo. Dhanyavaad.



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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: myviewprem

If you think practically KKHH is a 90s movie


In those times dress mattered a lot as not many women were going to work in IT company etc it was traditional jobs for women like teaching, bank etc


After 2005 many women working in It company travelling world so they start wearing modern dress like US women in plenty so now in indian society a modern dressing women or someone acting like tom boy is not that vilanized in indian society as in 1997 when KKHH released


In 1990s you wear modern dress and try to go to middle tier city or village it would be highly unsafe for women or girls Only in modern metros like mumbai, bangalore, chennai etc women could dare wera midi and mini and go out even after 7pm and not have men follow or comment etc


If you think even delhi is dangerous for modern dressing women in 2020 in many places as people are not as modern thinking as a city like mumbai or bangalore there


So Rahul rejecting Anjali came from a mindset that women who dress pant shirt are not fit for wife material. Tina always wore feminine clothes although modern and after marraige only chudidhar or sarees. For rahul to accept anjali as lover or life partner she had to grow her hairs long and wear sareees. You watch any 90s movie heroine be it raveena, karishma, madhuri or kajol before marraige they go with hero in western dress mini, midi, skirts, pant and crop tops. After wedding they wera saree and that too with pallu on head many times in front of hero family.


Even today when a boys family comes to meet girl, girl wears ghagra or salwar no one will dare sit in pant shirt or mini and midi in india. Although in real life they may wearr modern western dress for collee or office but they will wera traditional when boys family comes to look at them


Women are judged even in 2023 based on whether they wear modern western or traditional especially by hubby family or after marraige or after a certain age like 35-40 years above. Thats how indian society is and karan johar is part of indian society

You can explain the narrative as a product of its time, but you cannot justify it.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Supari_khala

Listen y’all this is a simple case of jab dil aa gaya gadhe pe toh pari** kya cheez hain. Idk why y’all writing essays




**I don’t know the puuuuling of Pari. Adjust kar lo. Dhanyavaad.

Is this a real muhawra? I don't get it. 😆

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